Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
Israelite Wolfman
Banned
Posts: 256
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:49 pm
Location: Jerusalem, Israel.
Contact:

Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by Israelite Wolfman » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:42 am

Babidi's Minions (whom Yakon fed upon) vs. Frieza's Henchmen (Mid to Low level soldiers). Who's stronger?

[spoiler]Image
Image[/spoiler]

User avatar
Khin
I Live Here
Posts: 2540
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:33 am
Location: West City
Contact:

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by Khin » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:44 pm

Aside from Gohan defeating them by flaring his aura and Yakon eating them, Babidi’s goons has done nothing to tell us how strong they are, so there’s really no way to tell how the goons fare in comparison to Freeza’s lackeys. In addition (for future reference), there is a thread dedicated to all sorts of Dragon Ball-related versus matches like this.

User avatar
TheUltimateNinja
I Live Here
Posts: 4020
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:18 pm

Babidi's goons are probably stronger by virtue of appearing later in the series.

User avatar
Lord Beerus
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 21433
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
Location: A temple on a giant tree
Contact:

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:15 pm

I'd back Babidi's goons on this one. Especially since some of them have magic in their arsenal.

User avatar
floofychan333
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1378
Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:03 pm
Location: Ottawa, Canada

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by floofychan333 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:55 pm

Frieza's guys win because a handful of them were actually strong (Zarbon, Dodoria, Ginyu Force.) Babidi's strongest guys are Pui Pui, Dabura, and Yakon, and Pui Pui and Yakon would probably crumble to dust quickly.
"All of you. All of you must have KILL all the SEASONS!" -Dough (Tenshinhan), Speedy Dub of Movie 9.

"My opinion of Norihito's Sumitomo's new score is... well, very mixed. The stuff that's good is pretty darn good, but the stuff that's bad makes elevator music sound like Jerry freaking Goldsmith." -Kenisu

User avatar
The_Destroyer
Regular
Posts: 519
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:19 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by The_Destroyer » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:29 pm

Dabura would solo all the higher level Frieza troops. Pui Pui would probably avoid the stronger ones and focus and the low level Frieza soldiers.

User avatar
TheUltimateNinja
I Live Here
Posts: 4020
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:58 pm

floofychan333 wrote:Frieza's guys win because a handful of them were actually strong (Zarbon, Dodoria, Ginyu Force.) Babidi's strongest guys are Pui Pui, Dabura, and Yakon, and Pui Pui and Yakon would probably crumble to dust quickly.
Pui Pui alone would solo Frieza's entire force. Frieza's strongest lackey is Ginyu who's only at 120,000.

User avatar
The gr
I Live Here
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:58 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by The gr » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:22 pm

I'll give to badidi lackeys for this because Dabura pui pui and yakon solos the frieza army through if we're including tagoma or shisami then maybe the frieza army will win because tagoma and shisami ≥ Dabura pui and yakon they need to use some crazy magic to beat them
Mostly active on discord.

User avatar
TheUltimateNinja
I Live Here
Posts: 4020
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:15 pm

The gr wrote:I'll give to badidi lackeys for this because Dabura pui pui and yakon solos the frieza army through if we're including tagoma or shisami then maybe the frieza army will win because tagoma and shisami ≥ Dabura pui and yakon they need to use some crazy magic to beat them
Dabura and Tagoma are around the same level, Dabura can win with his spit. Shisami gets clowned by Dabura.

User avatar
The gr
I Live Here
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:58 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by The gr » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:47 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
The gr wrote:I'll give to badidi lackeys for this because Dabura pui pui and yakon solos the frieza army through if we're including tagoma or shisami then maybe the frieza army will win because tagoma and shisami ≥ Dabura pui and yakon they need to use some crazy magic to beat them
Dabura and Tagoma are around the same level, Dabura can win with his spit. Shisami gets clowned by Dabura.
Wow this guy is underestimating tagoma through is highly possible that Dabura ≥ shisami
Mostly active on discord.

User avatar
TheUltimateNinja
I Live Here
Posts: 4020
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:17 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:56 pm

The gr wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
The gr wrote:I'll give to badidi lackeys for this because Dabura pui pui and yakon solos the frieza army through if we're including tagoma or shisami then maybe the frieza army will win because tagoma and shisami ≥ Dabura pui and yakon they need to use some crazy magic to beat them
Dabura and Tagoma are around the same level, Dabura can win with his spit. Shisami gets clowned by Dabura.
Wow this guy is underestimating tagoma through is highly possible that Dabura ≥ shisami
Tagoma is comfortably stronger than Piccolo, but not by a huge margin, the gap is probably around 25-30% or so. Dabura should be in the same league as him.

User avatar
The gr
I Live Here
Posts: 2856
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:58 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by The gr » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:18 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
The gr wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Dabura and Tagoma are around the same level, Dabura can win with his spit. Shisami gets clowned by Dabura.
Wow this guy is underestimating tagoma through is highly possible that Dabura ≥ shisami
Tagoma is comfortably stronger than Piccolo, but not by a huge margin, the gap is probably around 25-30% or so. Dabura should be in the same league as him.
Tagoma is stated as strong as Gohan at his prime aka mystic form but let's talk about this in this thread viewtopic.php?f=25&t=30781&start=11500
Mostly active on discord.

DragonBallLove
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 294
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:34 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by DragonBallLove » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:24 pm

I think you guys has deviate from the spirit of the question. The OP is speaking of *base soldiers*. The lackeys. No stronger than Raditz or Appule, to say. Against the henchmen of Babidi, not counting the "elites" of Yakon or Puipui, nevertheless Dabra.

In those terms, what I have to ask beforehand is: the numbers? how many combatants in each rank? Because if the answer is "all that are available", then Freezer Force wins hand down by force of sheer numbers. If not, we don't have enough data to assert anything on the matter, I guess.

User avatar
Pantalones
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1432
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2011 2:30 pm

Re: Battle of Lackeys: Frieza's Soldiers vs. Babidi's Soldiers... Who would win?

Post by Pantalones » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:12 am

Assuming nameless minion types only (so nobody like the Ginyu Force, Pui Pui, Yakon, Dabura, etc.)... I would have to go with Babidi's soldiers, purely due to the fact that they're under Babidi's spell and thus should have their power boosted the same way that Spopovich and Yamu did (and those guys went from no match for Mr. Satan to strong enough to pummel his stronger daughter even when holding back some, plus they had weird zombie-like features like being unaffected by a broken neck, being able to just pop it back into place and keep going.)

Heck, Babidi is stated to have gone around gathering the strongest fighters he could find and then making them his minions... and considering that Yakon (who was... maybe slightly stronger than the base Saiyans at best) and even freaking Pui Pui (lower single-digit millions at best, but probably even weaker than that) are some of the "success stories" of the group, "strongest he can find" doesn't mean somebody on Freeza's level, and it doesn't even necessarily mean somebody in the millions. Who's to say some of his weaker goons aren't former members of Freeza's army that he saw more potential in? That could even be part of the reason why the army in Resurrection F was stated to be weaker than back in the day -- some soldiers died on Namek, some died with Freeza and Cold, some probably just abandoned the army with its leaders all dead, and then some of the ones who were left got borrowed by Babidi.

It would basically be like Freeza's army fighting a potential-unlocked, weird-zombie-resilience version of itself. The only chance they'd have is ganging up and blasting the Majin soldiers to bits from a distance (Freeza's soldiers do at least have numbers on their side, so something like that could wipe out Babidi's side if at least some of them are close to the Majins in terms of power level), and even that wouldn't work if the power gap between the two sides is too big. If Babidi's minions have magic of their own rather than just being strengthened by Babidi's spell, then Freeza's soldiers don't have much of a chance.

Post Reply