So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by Freeza9000 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:23 am

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:If he could beat up random fighters on RoF than he can random universe fighters.
Yes, random aliens, but not contestants of the next major multiverse tournament lol
But what if some contestants of the other universes are fodder?

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:37 am

Freeza9000 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:If he could beat up random fighters on RoF than he can random universe fighters.
Yes, random aliens, but not contestants of the next major multiverse tournament lol
But what if some contestants of the other universes are fodder?
Everyone for some reason keeps assuming no one from universe 7 is going to get stronger and that every other universe is strong. The most important factor deciding how well everyone will do is the format, which we do not know currently.

If it is a tournament where all your team either progress to the next round or loses at the same time then I would not be surprised if Goku loses 3 or 4 matches and does not do well until the final stages of the tournament.

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by MrBlackFox » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:02 am

MagmonKai wrote:Has anybody thought that maybe UNIVERSE 7 needs to lose some fights? I would imagine it's easier to swallow if Krillin or Tien or even Roshi lost versus the top fighters in our Universe which is GOKU.

My main idea is that U7 loses at some point, leading to its destruction ( could really happen or could be menaced only ) and this kickstart the real New arc events
Maybe some GT style galaxy tour to find special Dragon Balls or what?!

And I think is undoubtful that every universe will have his Gokus/ Vegetas and his weaker fighters like 7's Tien, Krillin( who probably will get a massive power boost in the next episodes) and Roshi, and considering this will be a tag tournament, each character will take care of his par at least

The only universe who, at least in my ideas, will probably start on an high level, is u6, they know what to expect from 7 and this time they'll be much more stronger than the previous entry

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by Rubens » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:17 am

If the top 10 fighters of other universes are Appule's tier, sure.

Maybe he'll be training with north Kaio, with Baba's help to get there, hit the gravity room and use the rosat.

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Jokes aside, I'm not fond of the idea of him entering this tournament. Either way, we don't know how the tournament is going to be like but unless Roshi brings some new techniques into the table, he won't do much.
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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:55 am

Freeza9000 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:If he could beat up random fighters on RoF than he can random universe fighters.
Yes, random aliens, but not contestants of the next major multiverse tournament lol
But what if some contestants of the other universes are fodder?
Why would fodder be the best the other universes have to offer?

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Post by Doctor. » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:09 am

TekTheNinja wrote:Why would fodder be the best the other universes have to offer?
Why is Roshi the best U7 has to offer?

Everyone was expecting U6 to be hot shit too, and all of them besides Hit would get punked by even Cell.

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by TekTheNinja » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:34 am

Why is Roshi the best U7 has to offer?
He's not. That's kinda why it's confusing that he's here.
Everyone was expecting U6 to be hot shit too, and all of them besides Hit would get punked by even Cell.
Yeah. It was pretty disappointing actually since Goku and Vegeta could one shot almost any of them if they wanted to, which made the fights boring as fuck. I'm hoping this arc doesn't make the same mistake.

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Post by Beyond » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:39 am

Doctor. wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:Why would fodder be the best the other universes have to offer?
Why is Roshi the best U7 has to offer?

Everyone was expecting U6 to be hot shit too, and all of them besides Hit would get punked by even Cell.
Even hit came off as kind of a punk in the manga.

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by Big Black Sayian » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:42 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Freeza9000 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Yes, random aliens, but not contestants of the next major multiverse tournament lol
But what if some contestants of the other universes are fodder?
Why would fodder be the best the other universes have to offer?
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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by Freeza9000 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:23 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Freeza9000 wrote:
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Yes, random aliens, but not contestants of the next major multiverse tournament lol
But what if some contestants of the other universes are fodder?
Why would fodder be the best the other universes have to offer?
Not all of the other teams are gonna be fodder, but I still think some will though.

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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:35 am

TekTheNinja wrote:
Why is Roshi the best U7 has to offer?
He's not. That's kinda why it's confusing that he's here.
Everyone was expecting U6 to be hot shit too, and all of them besides Hit would get punked by even Cell.
Yeah. It was pretty disappointing actually since Goku and Vegeta could one shot almost any of them if they wanted to, which made the fights boring as fuck. I'm hoping this arc doesn't make the same mistake.
That wasn't a mistake, if they faught all of the other players their energy decreases drastically, vegeta faught 3 guys before hit and he was weaker because of that, if at full power he might have actually hurt hit..
And there are team battles, goku and Vegeta being a single team would be really good, others together can even take down much stonger foes if teamed up correctly..

My team predictions are in my sig, the main idea is one is the strongest team, the 2nd one is middle in power, the third one is the weakest team, but every team can indeed prove to be strong and useful
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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by TheMathemagician » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:19 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Why is Roshi the best U7 has to offer?
He's not. That's kinda why it's confusing that he's here.
Everyone was expecting U6 to be hot shit too, and all of them besides Hit would get punked by even Cell.
Yeah. It was pretty disappointing actually since Goku and Vegeta could one shot almost any of them if they wanted to, which made the fights boring as fuck. I'm hoping this arc doesn't make the same mistake.
That wasn't a mistake, if they faught all of the other players their energy decreases drastically, vegeta faught 3 guys before hit and he was weaker because of that, if at full power he might have actually hurt hit..
And there are team battles, goku and Vegeta being a single team would be really good, others together can even take down much stonger foes if teamed up correctly..

My team predictions are in my sig, the main idea is one is the strongest team, the 2nd one is middle in power, the third one is the weakest team, but every team can indeed prove to be strong and useful
I don't think anything in the anime indicated Vegeta was all that much weakened. He probably wouldn't have done much better if he was at absolute top condition. As for the team battles, I'm really hoping it's not Goku and Vegeta teaming up. I really don't want to see that.
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Re: So...how is Roshi supposed to fight in the tournament?

Post by Ki Breaker » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:23 pm

TheMathemagician wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote: He's not. That's kinda why it's confusing that he's here.


Yeah. It was pretty disappointing actually since Goku and Vegeta could one shot almost any of them if they wanted to, which made the fights boring as fuck. I'm hoping this arc doesn't make the same mistake.
That wasn't a mistake, if they faught all of the other players their energy decreases drastically, vegeta faught 3 guys before hit and he was weaker because of that, if at full power he might have actually hurt hit..
And there are team battles, goku and Vegeta being a single team would be really good, others together can even take down much stonger foes if teamed up correctly..

My team predictions are in my sig, the main idea is one is the strongest team, the 2nd one is middle in power, the third one is the weakest team, but every team can indeed prove to be strong and useful
I don't think anything in the anime indicated Vegeta was all that much weakened. He probably wouldn't have done much better if he was at absolute top condition. As for the team battles, I'm really hoping it's not Goku and Vegeta teaming up. I really don't want to see that.
Him going to drink water after Magetta fight, him transforming so many times and him using so many ki attacks with the hyper charged final flash is tiring..

Having trouble with magetta and going to whis to drink up and get some stamina back is also a indicator the heat really fatigued him..

Vegeta wouldn't have fared that badly than base goku if he wasn't weakened a lot..
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Post by TheMathemagician » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:02 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
TheMathemagician wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote: That wasn't a mistake, if they faught all of the other players their energy decreases drastically, vegeta faught 3 guys before hit and he was weaker because of that, if at full power he might have actually hurt hit..
And there are team battles, goku and Vegeta being a single team would be really good, others together can even take down much stonger foes if teamed up correctly..

My team predictions are in my sig, the main idea is one is the strongest team, the 2nd one is middle in power, the third one is the weakest team, but every team can indeed prove to be strong and useful
I don't think anything in the anime indicated Vegeta was all that much weakened. He probably wouldn't have done much better if he was at absolute top condition. As for the team battles, I'm really hoping it's not Goku and Vegeta teaming up. I really don't want to see that.
Him going to drink water after Magetta fight, him transforming so many times and him using so many ki attacks with the hyper charged final flash is tiring..

Having trouble with magetta and going to whis to drink up and get some stamina back is also a indicator the heat really fatigued him..

Vegeta wouldn't have fared that badly than base goku if he wasn't weakened a lot..
Of course not. He certainly wouldn't have done much worse than Base Goku, but I thought Hit was also holding back more on Base Goku than he was on SSB Vegeta? Unless that isn't true? But him being somewhat fatigued doesn't indicate he was "weakened a lot".
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Post by TekTheNinja » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:21 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
TekTheNinja wrote:
Why is Roshi the best U7 has to offer?
He's not. That's kinda why it's confusing that he's here.
Everyone was expecting U6 to be hot shit too, and all of them besides Hit would get punked by even Cell.
Yeah. It was pretty disappointing actually since Goku and Vegeta could one shot almost any of them if they wanted to, which made the fights boring as fuck. I'm hoping this arc doesn't make the same mistake.
That wasn't a mistake, if they faught all of the other players their energy decreases drastically, vegeta faught 3 guys before hit and he was weaker because of that, if at full power he might have actually hurt hit..
And there are team battles, goku and Vegeta being a single team would be really good, others together can even take down much stonger foes if teamed up correctly..

My team predictions are in my sig, the main idea is one is the strongest team, the 2nd one is middle in power, the third one is the weakest team, but every team can indeed prove to be strong and useful
It very much was a mistake. Watching Goku and Vegeta fight characters who could be beaten by even Cell isn't fun. They hold back ridiculous amounts (Something GT gets criticized for all the time but for some reason Super gets a free pass on) and Vegeta really wasn't all that weakened by any of it either really. He mostly got caught off guard by the Toki-tobashi.

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Post by Gligarman » Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:31 am

He held his own in Resurrection F. I think he'll be alright.

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Post by MagmonKai » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:04 am

Gligarman wrote:He held his own in Resurrection F. I think he'll be alright.
Those were weak aliens, I don't think he'll be "alright"!

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Post by Gligarman » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:23 pm

He's Muten Roshi. He'll be alright.

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