"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[DBZ Macky]

Do you guys think it's possible Goku will use Super Saiyan Blue against Bergamo? I hope not, even though his foe is the strongest of the trio, I don't feel like Goku using his more powerful transformation there yet, I bet Super Saiyan 3 will be enough to defeat this wolf.

I'm willing to bet that even the regular Super Saiyan form would suffice. In hindsight, these dogs aren't really too strong.

[SansrivaaL]

I'm not liking the idea that we're getting a huge cliffhanger after this episode, next one comes out next next week, it woulda been better if they finished Toppo's burst in and then after this exhibition we get the 1 week break.

[The gr]

Do you guys think it's possible Goku will use Super Saiyan Blue against Bergamo? I hope not, even though his foe is the strongest of the trio, I don't feel like Goku using his more powerful transformation there yet, I bet Super Saiyan 3 will be enough to defeat this wolf.

I'm hoping goku Usee ssgss just to scare everyone,by the preview I just saw a blue glowing light,but by looking at DBS previous tournament, goku is just going the classic super Saiyan

[DBS916]

I'm not liking the idea that we're getting a huge cliffhanger after this episode, next one comes out next next week, it woulda been better if they finished Toppo's burst in and then after this exhibition we get the 1 week break.

I agree. Finish the Zen Exhibition Match and then have a break. Hopefully a break will mean something special for the fans for waiting patiently.

[Simere]

I mean, it's not like they choose when to break and write the narrative around that.

[DBS916]

Do you guys think it's possible Goku will use Super Saiyan Blue against Bergamo? I hope not, even though his foe is the strongest of the trio, I don't feel like Goku using his more powerful transformation there yet, I bet Super Saiyan 3 will be enough to defeat this wolf.

I can see Zeno getting aggravated that Goku isn't going Blue right off the bat

Probably not. Though it would it fit with Zeno wanting to show his future counterpart how powerful Goku was in his last match against Hit. I do agree that despite the Trio De Dangers being powerful, Goku transforming into a regular SSJ or SSJ2 would be enough to win.

[DBSQA]

Just wait for Android 17

Maybe he managed to unlock that power which gero stopped his access to..
He does have an aura which he never had before

Interesting thought, never heard of that theory before.
It's far better than claiming he just did 'offscreen training'.

[pacz360]

You're right a long post totally destroyed this thread. It's unusable at this point. We should probably just make a new one...

Yes it does make sense. It's a completely different universe with completely different rules. We already know saiyans without tails are prodigies , and these saiyans haven't been lazy like ours. They kept getting stronger in order to protect the universe. And since Dragonball always has the kids having potential to surpass their fathers, we have generations of u6 saiyans constantly getting stronger. That could definitely make up for it. Goku's surpassed people much older and experienced than him, I don't see why it's crazy for other characters to do the same.

Also the past episodes haven't shown that they don't have the SSG power up in base anymore. They would have definitely mentioned something that big.

No, it just makes slow to scroll, some people are not interested in repeated quotes, but I see you're lazy to edit your own posts, so whatever.

You're making stuff, there's nothing stated about those completely different rules just because is another universe and you can't expect the audience to swallow that Saiyans without tails but yet don't know how to transform are born God prodigies. As TheUltimateNinja pointed, if Base Cabba is possibly weaker than Frost and Piccolo, he can't be in that SSJG tier of power already. The "kids" in Dragon Ball are now several steps behind their fathers, so that's not really a good point. What is crazy is not about new characters surpassing old ones, we always had that in the series, with the difference it had clarifications about why certain character is stronger than another and so on.

Does it makes so sense for Frieza to get to god level in four months by beating up some fodder
Does make sense for a guy in a cave making three androids that can shit on the emperor of the universe and the legendary transformation?
Does it make sense for trunks to go from ssj2 tier to trading blows with ssjb tier fighter in a matter of a few days?
No but it happened and super could give two shits about logic and don't try to give me the rectons crap unless it's been acknowledged in universe or toriyama himself.

Pardon, but did you ever saw me in this forum defending RoF or Super nonsense power scalling? I don't think so, so let's skip those ones.

He's not just a "guy" he was a brilliant mad scientist acknowledged by Bulma and his father, who had work in making deadly weapons for the well-know Red Ribbon Army. He was responsible for the creation of Android 8, that even though was a failure already had superior strenght than post 21st TB Goku, so is reasonable to think this same man after decades of research, analys of his enemy's battles and calculations was capable of building way stronger deadly machines that could defeat Goku at time.

I'm not just discussing logic, I'm discussing bad storytelling, you may not care about that, it's your deal but not mine.

The guy didn't even knew what ssj was so how by all means it makes sense that he can make beings that can make untrained ssj look look like trash if he didn't even know what it was.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Do you guys think it's possible Goku will use Super Saiyan Blue against Bergamo? I hope not, even though his foe is the strongest of the trio, I don't feel like Goku using his more powerful transformation there yet, I bet Super Saiyan 3 will be enough to defeat this wolf.

I'm willing to bet that even the regular Super Saiyan form would suffice. In hindsight, these dogs aren't really too strong.

The Jump Preview had a pic of SSGSS Goku (since the Jump Preview is BW they used a shot from the Freeza arc to show that it is SSGSS I suspect) and the NEP teased kind of teased what looked like it (something blue was happening and Zen-Ohs were reacting), so I'd say it looks pretty likely. We don't know anything about Bergamo as Goku said he can't read his ki, Goku easily dispatched Nappa but Vegeta wasn't that easy so do no write of Bergy because of his brothers.

[Ki Breaker]

Bergamo definitely shouldn't be needing blue to be defeated..
Brothers shouldn't have that big of a league difference..

The again I am hoping goku goes SSB because Bergamo can somehow match his mortal level powers but can't copy or match ( however that works ) his god ki..

[dragonballgeek]

Do you guys think it's possible Goku will use Super Saiyan Blue against Bergamo? I hope not, even though his foe is the strongest of the trio, I don't feel like Goku using his more powerful transformation there yet, I bet Super Saiyan 3 will be enough to defeat this wolf.

I'm hoping goku Usee ssgss just to scare everyone,by the preview I just saw a blue glowing light,but by looking at DBS previous tournament, goku is just going the classic super Saiyan

He might transform if he ends up fighting Toppo

[ArchedThunder]

Brothers shouldn't have that big of a league difference..

Why not?

[kinisking]

Brothers shouldn't have that big of a league difference..

Why not?

Goku and raditz and Vegeta and tarble are completely different strengths ki breaker.

[Lord Frieza]

Brothers shouldn't have that big of a league difference..

Why not?

Goku and raditz and Vegeta and tarble are completely different strengths ki breaker.

Siblings can exhibit vastly different levels of potential, not only in physical ability but also mental. One brother is a sports guys while other book worm. One is a doctor the other a mechanic. On is tall and the other is short.

Both will likely live very different lives and experiences which effect their development in a way unique to them.

[Ki Breaker]

Brothers shouldn't have that big of a league difference..

Why not?

Goku and raditz and Vegeta and tarble are completely different strengths ki breaker.

Let me elaborate on this..
Those 3 are basically a team..
I am assuming there train and work together they are known as the trio of dangers implying they at least stay and do their thing together as a team, their genetics are also same this similar situation Should theoretically put them in the same league with one or the other having a slight edge due to their special abilities..

That is what I wanted to point out anyways

[Nekis13]

Super is off next week?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Super is off next week?

That's right.

[MisteryOne]

Bergamo definitely shouldn't be needing blue to be defeated..
Brothers shouldn't have that big of a league difference..

The again I am hoping goku goes SSB because Bergamo can somehow match his mortal level powers but can't copy or match ( however that works ) his god ki..

I really don't get why people keep saying this. The difference between Goten and Ultimate Gohan is huge. The difference between Raditz and his teammates was huge. The difference between Basil and Lavender is huge as well. While I agree that it would be better if Bergamo forced Goku to use Blue because of his abilities and not raw power, it would make sense if he was Blue tier. As far as we know the wolf race could live thousands of years (hell, Beerus' race are ningens yet they appear to live longer than Kaioshin themselves!) and Bergamo could be way more experienced that the other two. That if they are real brothers, of course. The word «aniki» doesn't neccesary mean brother in the literal sense. Also, the Champa tournament is in Godtube anyway, so after this match the gods would be stupid it they wouldn't see it and learn more about Goku (and then they would see SSB).

[sintzu]

Super is off next week?

That's right.

Today's episode will probably end on a big cliffhanger.

[DBS916]

Super is off next week?

That's right.

Today's episode will probably end on a big cliffhanger.

I dread that happening but hope the next episode gives us something special for waiting so long. And yes a week is too long of a break.