Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

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Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Booze Sama » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:35 am

Gathering that its a Battle Royale, does that mean fusions won't be barred? Hoping we get to see Vegetto

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:27 am

No. But fusion would be a terrible idea, your effectively making two men one, much easier to ring out one than two. Remember there are gonna be 70 opponents gunning for you.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:50 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No. But fusion would be a terrible idea, your effectively making two men one, much easier to ring out one than two. Remember there are gonna be 70 opponents gunning for you.
Except that one guy is far more powerful and therefore much harder to ring out.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:24 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No. But fusion would be a terrible idea, your effectively making two men one, much easier to ring out one than two. Remember there are gonna be 70 opponents gunning for you.
Except that one guy is far more powerful and therefore much harder to ring out.
Not necessarily, remember these guys aren't chumps their there Universes strangest fighters if 70 people of high calibre are gunning after Vegetto he's gonna be overwhelmed. Also we know the drawback that if Vegetto uses too much power he will defuse pre 1hr time limit thus making fusion even more of a pointless endeavour.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:25 am

If they don't end the arc in 45 mins real time we might also see fusion, why the hell not..
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:33 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No. But fusion would be a terrible idea, your effectively making two men one, much easier to ring out one than two. Remember there are gonna be 70 opponents gunning for you.
Except that one guy is far more powerful and therefore much harder to ring out.
Not necessarily, remember these guys aren't chumps their there Universes strangest fighters if 70 people of high calibre are gunning after Vegetto he's gonna be overwhelmed. Also we know the drawback that if Vegetto uses too much power he will defuse pre 1hr time limit thus making fusion even more of a pointless endeavour.
Vegetto can just suppress himself to the point where he'll last at least ~45 minutes since by then everyone will be totally exhausted.

If anyone there is capable of even laying a finger on a suppressed Vegetto, Vegeta would instantly get oneshotted.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:34 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Except that one guy is far more powerful and therefore much harder to ring out.
Not necessarily, remember these guys aren't chumps their there Universes strangest fighters if 70 people of high calibre are gunning after Vegetto he's gonna be overwhelmed. Also we know the drawback that if Vegetto uses too much power he will defuse pre 1hr time limit thus making fusion even more of a pointless endeavour.
Vegetto can just suppress himself to the point where he'll last at least ~45 minutes since by then everyone will be totally exhausted.

If anyone there is capable of even laying a finger on a suppressed Vegetto, Vegeta would instantly get oneshotted.
It's not that simple, purposely hindering yourself in a universe survival is not wise especially when your going up against 70 of the elite. The emphasis is one team work here not power, there is more then one way to win a fight after all. Also your assuming people would get exhausted where this no basis for that, most of these guys are going to be the best of the best.

There is zero point in having a supressed Vegetto when you can have a full powered Goku and Vegeta with the likes of Goku able to utilize KK etc.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by ChronoTwigger » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:44 am

They could useit , as always, as the last resource if nothing else work. Strategically speaking is stupid, but probably we will see it for showbiz reasons.,
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by DBZ Macky » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:46 am

But items like the Potara earrings are barred aren't they?
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by ckal9 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:38 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No. But fusion would be a terrible idea, your effectively making two men one, much easier to ring out one than two. Remember there are gonna be 70 opponents gunning for you.
Except it would be an amazing idea because that fused character would be so much more powerful than all the other fighters it is basically a win condition.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Sodhi » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:03 pm

It's not clear enough but I think those rings may be banned. Otherwise it will be a cluster fuck and everyone will start fusing.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Totamo » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:15 pm

fusion is kind of dead at this point.

that time limit makes it useless

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:01 pm

Fusion is pointless at this stage. Getting eliminated automatically puts your universe at a greater disadvantage of having one plus member on your team.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by IKevinX » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:18 pm

Just fuse into Gogeta.
Powerup
consequently push everyone
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Profit!

I was actually thinking about this yesterday aswell. The powergap would be too big unless the other universes also have a fusion of God tier characters
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:28 pm

ckal9 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No. But fusion would be a terrible idea, your effectively making two men one, much easier to ring out one than two. Remember there are gonna be 70 opponents gunning for you.
Except it would be an amazing idea because that fused character would be so much more powerful than all the other fighters it is basically a win condition.
Again there is no basis for this at all, as Goku said a few episodes ago there is a world of fighters out there where their (Goku and co's) norm does not apply.

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Boo Machine » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:34 pm

I feel like those potara would be considered a weapon. Everyone there knows what they do so there would probably be some objection from other gods, otherwise every Kaioshin could just rip off their own potara and throw them to their strongest 2 fighters.

Also I'd rather not see a fusion again for this. Like I said during the FT arc, I really don't want to see fusion be a crutch Goku and Vegeta use everytime a situation gets difficult. If for some reason they do use it, then again, it better not be used to win the day.
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by shadowfox87 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:08 pm

The Potara earrings would be banned since that is an external tool. However, the fusion dance would be totally legal. If in this battle royale of 80 fighters, Goku and Vegeta can find the time to perform the fusion dance accurately, then sure. I doubt it though. There's just too much going on for anyone to wait for them to do a dance let alone convince Vegeta to be taught how to do it and then perform it.

I can see maybe Krillin and Tien learning it before the tournament.
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Gig » Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:42 am

Considering the rule of "who has got most fighters left when time runs out wins", making two characters become one without the ability to de-fuse at will is a risk. You may arrive at the end of the time with one less fighter due to the fusion having not ended yet!

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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by Basako » Thu Mar 09, 2017 5:47 am

The fight lasts 48 minutes, so the dance fusion that has a maximum of 30 wouldn't be a bad idea. But Goten and Trunks are out of the fight and I don't think the rest will go, not even Goku and Vegeta. As far as we know, Vegeta never learned the dance. I don't think the Potara earrings will be allowed.
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Re: Fusions NOT Barred from Tournament?

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:24 am

Gig wrote:Considering the rule of "who has got most fighters left when time runs out wins", making two characters become one without the ability to de-fuse at will is a risk. You may arrive at the end of the time with one less fighter due to the fusion having not ended yet!
They can willingly defuse by using up all their power.

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