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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:01 pm

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Starkiller_Ren wrote:I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
Sometimes bad dialog?
Come on, it's not that bad. You act like the dub was always inaccurate.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:03 pm

Colgatetoothpasteyum wrote:over-analyze a kids show more in my life
Why does it being a kid's show "protect" it from criticism or analysis?

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Post by Shad73 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:04 pm

Time for my unpopular opinion: the better group Kamehameha was in The World's Strongest and not Broly- Second Coming. It was with Goku, Roshi and Krillin and not Goku, Gohan and Goten.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Colgatetoothpasteyum » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:40 pm

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Colgatetoothpasteyum wrote:over-analyze a kids show more in my life
Why does it being a kid's show "protect" it from criticism or analysis?
"kid's show" isn't the right word, sorry. "simple show" is better.

Dragon Ball isn't complicated, and it never was is what I meant.

It's not something filled with symbolism or deep philosophical meanings, it's just meant to be a simple adventure. (and that's not a bad thing)

Discussing power levels, favorite characters and ways the show could improve is one thing. I actually DO think criticism is okay, but I don't think the show is or will go in the direction many think and are hoping it's going in, and I think people are going crazy over nothing and taking very minor things too seriously.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:41 pm

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Colgatetoothpasteyum wrote:over-analyze a kids show more in my life
Why does it being a kid's show "protect" it from criticism or analysis?
"kid's show" isn't the right word, sorry. "simple show" is better.

Dragon Ball isn't complicated, and it never was is what I meant.

It's not something filled with symbolism or deep philosophical meanings, it's just meant to be a simple adventure. (and that's not a bad thing)

Discussing power levels, favorite characters and ways the show could improve is one thing. I actually DO think criticism is okay, but I don't think the show is or will go in the direction many think and are hoping it's going in, and I think people are going crazy over nothing and taking very minor things too seriously.
Ahh okay, that makes more sense then. I can agree with this! Sorry for any confusion.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:18 am

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Starkiller_Ren wrote:I realize it's the nostalgia, and I'm probably looking st it through rose colored glasses, but I really do enjoy Funimation's dub of Z and especially Faulconer's music. I totally see the issues people have with it- bad translations, sometimes bad dialogue, and I do agree that there should've been way more moments that are silent and not filled in with Faulconer music. But I grew up with it, so I really do love it
Sometimes bad dialog?
Come on, it's not that bad. You act like the dub was always inaccurate.
The dialog is attrocious. It isn't always. It depends on what era we are discussing, but the dialog is bad more often than not and usually saved simply by good actors.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by dbs fanboy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:54 pm

I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by LuckyCat » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:33 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
Evil Angel and A Righteous Devil? It's the best ED Super's put out so far. It even works thematically with the types of fights Super has. Who doesn't like it and why not?

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:31 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Colgatetoothpasteyum wrote:over-analyze a kids show more in my life
Why does it being a kid's show "protect" it from criticism or analysis?
This is something that annoys me. When most people say "kid show", the mostly mean, a simple show.
I also find it funny that most of the people who say "we can't you criticize a kid show" are mostly adults.
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Post by ABED » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:49 pm

I wouldn't criticize a kids' show at the same level as a show for adults. By their nature, kids' shows are less sophisticated.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:12 pm

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dbs fanboy wrote:I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
Evil Angel and A Righteous Devil? It's the best ED Super's put out so far. It even works thematically with the types of fights Super has. Who doesn't like it and why not?
The song is absolutely fine, but the visual aspect of the ending was a rushed job, and the revision still doesn't time well with the song.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by dbs fanboy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:51 pm

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dbs fanboy wrote:I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
Evil Angel and A Righteous Devil? It's the best ED Super's put out so far. It even works thematically with the types of fights Super has. Who doesn't like it and why not?
No, not the current one, i mean the new one, i kinda like it....... Don't know why because i hated the Yoka Yoka dance.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:20 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
Agreed, it's my favorite by a good margin. And to add to that as another opinion, I like the animation for the ending quite a bit. It's visually appealing.

Also, is there a link to the eighth ending somewhere?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:42 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:
LuckyCat wrote:
dbs fanboy wrote:I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
Evil Angel and A Righteous Devil? It's the best ED Super's put out so far. It even works thematically with the types of fights Super has. Who doesn't like it and why not?
No, not the current one, i mean the new one, i kinda like it....... Don't know why because i hated the Yoka Yoka dance.
Same! I think it is because it is not in your face as Yoka Dance. I think it is interesting, a rock-y opening and a pop-y ending, nice contrast! If the visual accompanying the new ED fit the song then that would be great, I have never understood the notion of when people say X music is not fitting for DB, if used correctly I think anything can work with DB.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:06 pm

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Dub Goku is still closer to the manga than Super Goku is.
That's a lie and you know it. Super Goku is the most logical progression of Manga Goku.
Post-Boo Saga Goku would be more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X203WIT3mYk

Not this:

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Doctor. » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:12 pm

What is that even supposed to mean?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:37 pm

Doctor. wrote:What is that even supposed to mean?
That the guy you quoted is an asshole. Just ignore him. He'll go away.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:18 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Gog wrote:
Dub Goku is still closer to the manga than Super Goku is.
That's a lie and you know it. Super Goku is the most logical progression of Manga Goku.
Post-Boo Saga Goku would be more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X203WIT3mYk

Not this:

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Man never knew you wanted Goku to be a music video. Anyway Super Goku was the absolute logical conclusion for Goku, a selfish asshole who loves his family becoming an even bigger selfish asshole who loves his family. And besides that I am incredibly annoyed that there's this big idea going around that Super Goku is an imbecile.
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Doctor. wrote:What is that even supposed to mean?
That the guy you quoted is an asshole. Just ignore him. He'll go away.
Huh? What's the context in this situation?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:00 pm

Gog wrote:
Huh? What's the context in this situation?
That making fun of a kid with down syndrome to make a point on an internet forum makes you an asshole.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by The gr » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:46 pm

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dbs fanboy wrote:I kinda liked the new ending's theme song...........
Agreed, it's my favorite by a good margin. And to add to that as another opinion, I like the animation for the ending quite a bit. It's visually appealing.

Also, is there a link to the eighth ending somewhere?
I think this is ending 8, credit goes to this thread viewtopic.php?f=25&p=1272141#p1272141
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