Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:51 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Nasryyy wrote:was Ishikawa on this episode ? i think i spotted him here and there
If he was I'm guessing he mainly did 2nd KA or was focused mainly on the non Goku stuff. Guess we'll see in a minute.
He was animation supervisor paired with Ono.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Nasryyy » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:53 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:
Nasryyy wrote:was Ishikawa on this episode ? i think i spotted him here and there
If he was I'm guessing he mainly did 2nd KA or was focused mainly on the non Goku stuff. Guess we'll see in a minute.
in the second half goku's shots were 100% his

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Ajay » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:54 pm

Episode 85

Animation Supervisors
Tsutomo Ono Ishikawa Osamu

Key Animators:
Ono Half:
Tsutomo Ono
Sawaki Noborisa
Taichiro Ohara
Sin Yeong-sun
Aoyama Hiroshi
GK sales
Toei Half:
Nikaido Atsushi
Jin Inaba
Sasakado Nobuyoshi
Osamu Ishikawa
Hiroyuki Itai

2nd Key Animators
徐 泳等 ???
Yokoyama Miyuki
Omizu Yuki
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Honestly, I'm starting to feel weirdly uncomfortable by the number of solid episodes we've had since the arc began. I mean, it's almost like the show has its shit together and it weirds me out. Even nothing episodes have pleasant action.

Obviously the staff lists tell a different tale, but at least it's actually paying off for once. Almost sort of maybe actually getting a bit excited for the tournament to begin now. That's something! Anyway, this episode...

The first half was a little strange - it seemed like Ono's style was fighting against the 2nd KA's clean-up (Yokoyama, it seems), meaning the quality jumped up and down throughout. Not a big deal really, just an observation.

Ishikawa showing up was a pleasant surprise. It's really cool seeing his art become 100% his own now. Starting off as a bit of a Yamamuro clone, only to develop his current style has been nice to watch. He's taken the cuteness to the max.

Tate up next week! They didn't show very much of his work in the NEP, so I get the feeling he's probably on the second half only since there were some styles in there that I didn't really recognise at first glance. Very excited to see what he's managed to do there.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:56 pm

Ajay wrote: Honestly, I'm starting to feel weirdly uncomfortable by the number of solid episodes we've had since the arc began. I mean, it's almost like the show has its shit together and it weirds me out. Even nothing episodes have pleasant action.
Nagamine is our lord and savior who saved Super! Maybe...

I'm guessing this episode will have a large staff list, mainly because of Ono's studio.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:59 pm

I've recorded the ending, so i know the staff list

Animation supervisor:
- Osamu Ishikawa
- Tsutomu Ono

Key animator:
- Tsutomu Ono
- Midori Sawaki
- Tai’ichirō Ohara
- Someone new
- Someone new
- GK Sales

2nd key animator:
- Atsushi Nikaidō
- Hitoshi Inaba
6 others but i'm tired...
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:59 pm

Psykomatik wrote:I've recorded the ending, so i know the staff list

Animation supervisor:
- Osamu Ishikawa
- Tsutomu Ono

Key animator:
- Tsutomu Ono
- Midori Sawaki
- Tai’ichirō Ohara
- Someone new
- Someone new
- GK Sales
Wait... only 5 credited animators?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Psykomatik » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:01 pm

Forgot those 2nd KA. Sorry for that!

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Ajay » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:06 pm

Psykomatik wrote:Forgot those 2nd KA. Sorry for that!
I guess we both had the same idea. I just finished above.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by aaronWgamer » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:13 pm

It's really cool to see the production of Super getting gradually better. Directors are more organized, the schedule is better, the staff have gotten more comfortable with their styles, etc.
It's a shame that the character designer hasn't changed and probably won't for a while.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:23 pm

Itai, huh? I wonder when he did his stuff on this episode. He didn't do any animation for 82, maybe this is why? He's also coming back up in a few episodes, it'll be interesting to see how that episode turns out.
That's also a smaller staff size than I expected.


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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:43 pm

This shot of Goku in the preview looks sooo damn good:
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Alee9977 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:47 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:

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I wonder who the artist is.
This shot reminds me a shot from the final episode of Konosuba 2, it looks so good.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by JazzMazz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:54 pm

#85

The first half of the episode was pretty conservative. Nothing special but was at least serviceable.

The second half was a bit better. The pride trooper fight scene definitely being the highlight. Also, did anyone else get Flash Gordon vibes from the Pride Troopers song, because I did.

Overall, a pretty conservative episode, with nothing really special about it. It was fine for what it was.

The NEP had a fair bit of decently polished Tate in it, though it's hard to tell if that will relfect throughout the entire episode.

In other news Jin Inaba was a key animator on this episode, though I still wasn't able to spot his work. Itai also worked here, and I'm hoping that doesn't have negative consequences for his episode.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Gashif Aldi » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:20 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:Itai, huh? I wonder when he did his stuff on this episode. He didn't do any animation for 82, maybe this is why? He's also coming back up in a few episodes, it'll be interesting to see how that episode turns out.
That's also a smaller staff size than I expected.


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The shading give One Punch Man vibes. Like, somehow it looked so premium. Or, could it be a new action animator?! :o
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Burast » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:25 pm

I thought i saw a censored scene in this episode. When Dyspo (the bunny) cuts off a tentacle to the monster... I hope I'm wrong.

NEP preview looks amazing!!

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Sodhi » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:18 am

Ajay wrote: 2nd Key Animators
徐 泳等 ???
That's Tu Yeong-chaek. In case anyone is wondering.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Sodhi » Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:49 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Itai, huh? I wonder when he did his stuff on this episode. He didn't do any animation for 82, maybe this is why? He's also coming back up in a few episodes, it'll be interesting to see how that episode turns out.
It is also interesting to note that all staff members in Toei's half worked in #82, except Ishikawa.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by dhaval_dongre » Sun Apr 09, 2017 2:35 am

The first half fight was serviceable but the one in the second half was better. Overall a decent episode with some soild art.

The NEP SSB Goku shot was beautiful. The shading looked great. I wonder who did that.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by Shreyas_Singh » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:32 am

Who did the mini Beerus vs tentacle monster scene? Very nice follow through and weight in the animation.
Feel free to correct me if I say something wrong.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 84

Post by JazzMazz » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:49 am

Shreyas_Singh wrote:Who did the mini Beerus vs tentacle monster scene? Very nice follow through and weight in the animation.
I'm not particularly sure, maybe it was Inaba? I felt that the tentacles in some of the scenes had these obnoxious movement lines on them. Otherwise, everything else was pretty smooth.

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