Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:14 am
Lord Frieza wrote:While I was against it in the past, thinking about it: Frieza is at heart a businessman, that makes him far more trustworthy most of the other villains. If you give him something he wants more then Goku dead he'll take it. If they offer him a chance out of hell he might just take the offer.
Also he practice not killing during his time with Tagoma, Frieza tortured him to near death but was always careful not to kill.
The guy tried to kill goku when the latter gave him some energy to fuck off from namek.
The dude also had his minion sniped goku despite the latter giving him another chance to change.
Point of rof is that Frieza would never change.
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by Basako » Sat May 06, 2017 9:15 am
I was hoping Frost would become the good Freezer. Nah, I don't want it and I won't believe it until we get something more solid.
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by SansrivaaL » Sat May 06, 2017 9:16 am
Plus it would add the "Most of the members used to be bad guys" and having U7 look more like the bad guys, actually it would be interesting to have Freeza, an ally where at any time may go against the team, that would put people in suspense. Goku fighting others while Freeza slips in and attacks Goku and throws it off as "oops, my hand slipped" and Freeza casually making fun of Vegeta

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by Kanassa » Sat May 06, 2017 9:16 am
Ki Breaker wrote: goku and freeza working together.. the possibilities are endless..
The ultimate buddy/cop movie!
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Kanassa wrote:FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.

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by Lord Frieza » Sat May 06, 2017 9:17 am
Frieza can never be redeemed, but if the choice is between Universal Destruction and letting the most evil villain out of hell on the condition he saves the Universe well...Frieza is the true lesser of two evils.
Plus with only 28 planets left in U7 I dont think he'll be so eager to start pulling off handed mass genocide.
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by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:17 am
Kanassa wrote:pacz360 wrote:
>Freeza
>Redeemed
That will be the dumbest and absolutely most retarded decision this franchise Could ever make.
Vegeta
Redeemed.
Vegeta was the popular asshole rival that saved our heroes asses even when he was bad. Frieza has done neither of that.
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by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:18 am
Lord Frieza wrote:Frieza can never be redeemed, but if the choice is between Universal Destruction and letting the most evil villain out of hell on the condition he saves the Universe well...Frieza is the true lesser of two evils.
Plus with only 28 planets left in U7 I dont think he'll be so eager to start pulling off handed mass genocide.
Why not use yamcha.
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by Ki Breaker » Sat May 06, 2017 9:20 am
If those leaks at true, it's a great decision
pacz360 wrote:Lord Frieza wrote:Frieza can never be redeemed, but if the choice is between Universal Destruction and letting the most evil villain out of hell on the condition he saves the Universe well...Frieza is the true lesser of two evils.
Plus with only 28 planets left in U7 I dont think he'll be so eager to start pulling off handed mass genocide.
Why not use yamcha.
Mate, why is this a question
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by Kanassa » Sat May 06, 2017 9:21 am
pacz360 wrote:Kanassa wrote:pacz360 wrote:
>Freeza
>Redeemed
That will be the dumbest and absolutely most retarded decision this franchise Could ever make.
Vegeta
Redeemed.
Vegeta was the popular asshole rival that saved our heroes asses even when he was bad. Frieza has done neither of that.
Frieza and Vegeta were just as bad as each other, Frieza was just the more powerful; the concept of either being redeemed is equally strange. And possiable. Because it Dragonball.
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Kanassa wrote:FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.

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by emperior » Sat May 06, 2017 9:21 am
SansrivaaL wrote:Plus it would add the "Most of the members used to be bad guys" and having U7 look more like the bad guys, actually it would be interesting to have Freeza, an ally where at any time may go against the team, that would put people in suspense. Goku fighting others while Freeza slips in and attacks Goku and throws it off as "oops, my hand slipped" and Freeza casually making fun of Vegeta

Damn it would be awesome. Now I'm going to be a little disappointed once we will know those titles were fake...
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by Lord Frieza » Sat May 06, 2017 9:22 am
pacz360 wrote:Lord Frieza wrote:While I was against it in the past, thinking about it: Frieza is at heart a businessman, that makes him far more trustworthy most of the other villains. If you give him something he wants more then Goku dead he'll take it. If they offer him a chance out of hell he might just take the offer.
Also he practice not killing during his time with Tagoma, Frieza tortured him to near death but was always careful not to kill.
The guy tried to kill goku when the latter gave him some energy to fuck off from namek.
The dude also had his minion sniped goku despite the latter giving him another chance to change.
Point of rof is that Frieza would never change.
Did I suggest he would? No.
In all those situations Frieza though he could still win and was more then happy to stab Goku in the back. But this is different, he's stuck in hell, he cannot get out and will suffer for ever. He's got no other option but to take the deal. If he knows the universe will be destroyed and that Beerus would kill him for putting everyone at risk then he'll play ball. Frieza will take every opportunity to betray others, but in this situation the gang can put him in a situation were he has literally no choice but to help and no opportunists for betrayal.
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by Kanassa » Sat May 06, 2017 9:23 am
Ki Breaker wrote:If those leaks at true, it's a great decision
If the leaks are true, I still don't thin Frieza gets recruited. It'll be a comedic series of events where Goku goes to hell to ask all his past villains to join, with each of them rejecting him. Or Frieza will refuse, but maybe give Goku an idea on who to fill in the spot. Maybe accidentally let it slip that there's another Frieza race guy in Universe 7 that is pretty powerful.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Kanassa wrote:FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.

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by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:27 am
Ki Breaker wrote:If those leaks at true,
it's a great decision
pacz360 wrote:Lord Frieza wrote:Frieza can never be redeemed, but if the choice is between Universal Destruction and letting the most evil villain out of hell on the condition he saves the Universe well...Frieza is the true lesser of two evils.
Plus with only 28 planets left in U7 I dont think he'll be so eager to start pulling off handed mass genocide.
Why not use yamcha.
Mate, why is this a question
hell no Frieza had a movie and a retelling dedicated to himself already no need to screw over another cast member to bring who already had his time to shine.
I rather take Yamcha redeem himself from being a goddamned joke in the fandom than pointless fan service.
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by MrBlackFox » Sat May 06, 2017 9:37 am
I admit having Frieza again could make me very happy
When res F was announced, I said for months " I hope this won't end again in his death or would be ridiculous as fu.k", expecting Frieza to turn good or neutral at the end of the movie, like Abo and Cado for example
And guess how that ended? Meh.
Beerus could menace him to delete forever, and I'm sure he'll prefer to force participate rather than stay in hell foreger
Imo, BTW, Cell could have been a logical choice too, but I'm happy if Frieza returns again
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by MrBlackFox » Sat May 06, 2017 9:38 am
The only thing I hate is golden form, it's horrible for me
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by BlueBasilisk » Sat May 06, 2017 9:41 am
Ehh...I really don't want Frieza to come back. If Resurrection F hadn't happened, then I'd be all for it, but RoF showed what an unrepentant asshole he is and I feel like having him on the team would be much more of a liability than simply being down one person.
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by pacz360 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:42 am

How reliable is this guy?
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by ArchedThunder » Sat May 06, 2017 9:46 am
TheMikado wrote:
Her hair is pretty much exactly the same. Why would they make two different saiyan females look so similar. The name "Kale" if pronounced how you might if it were written in Japanese might even sound similar. I'd need someone else to confirm that. All I'm saying is having two female characters who have similar hairstyles and possibly similar sounding names is a bit large of a coincidence. Even the locks of hair are placed similarly.

Their hair is still pretty different, and this is the same franchise that has 4 other characters with the exact same hair style has Goku.
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by Legion » Sat May 06, 2017 9:53 am
No ok, but this Frieza thing is confirmed? Even if Beruus has his life on the line, i don't believe this

And Frieza is not reliable.
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by Draconic » Sat May 06, 2017 9:53 am
Doesn't Heroes also have an upcoming arc where Goku visits Hell for the upcoming tournament? Geez, this might actually be true...
