Official Unofficial "My Boy is Getting Screwed by Super" Compilation Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Doctor. » Fri May 12, 2017 12:24 am

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SaiyanGod117 wrote: I have to disagree, there's been decent character usage in Dragon Ball pretty much throughout its whole run. Sure the humans got sidelined in Z, but still made use of its other cast while it could. If there is any series with poor character usage, I would have to give it to Naruto Shippuden.
Naruto is a bad series, you're not exactly setting the bar very high either.
I don't what else is their to really say, Dragon Ball didn't have amazing or great character usage. All I'm just saying it was decent, most characters (barring the humans) served a purpose each arc. Toriyama could have definitely handled Vegeta and Piccolo better, but he made up for it by giving them climatic moments and development.
Characters are replaced by other characters of the exact same archetype, character development can be summed up to repetition of the same mistakes and lessons, character themes and build-up are squandered and changed last minute. Dragon Ball definitely did not treat its characters well because there was never a grand plan for them.
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Even in the first arc, where there was only 5 characters Toriyama had to focus on, Puar barely spoke or did anything of worth. Not to mention we knew next to nothing about any of them and Goku's personality was a lot more passive compared to how he ended up being, meaning he wasn't a very interesting main character.

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Post by Gog » Fri May 12, 2017 12:58 am

Doctor wrote: Even in the first arc, where there was only 5 characters Toriyama had to focus on, Puar barely spoke or did anything of worth. Not to mention we knew next to nothing about any of them and Goku's personality was a lot more passive compared to how he ended up being, meaning he wasn't a very interesting main character.
Puar contributed a lot, he spoke a lot. Puar not only cut of Goku's tail, saved Yamcha with a double distraction, he was also a very prominent character in the first arc as well. Same with everyone in the The Search For The Dragon Balls arc. And I'm confused, whats so important about knowing your characters backstories? Does it really add anything of significance to the character? And besides we do know enough about them Puar and Oolong both went to a shape shifter school where Oolong was kicked out. Yamcha's a bandit. Bulma goes to highschool, and Goku killed his grandpa.

Also, yeah Kid Goku was boring. I agree there.

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri May 12, 2017 5:06 pm

I never understood all the drama in "ma boi [character name]" threads. For some reason fans feel like being raped if their entitlement is not satisfied.
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Post by emperior » Fri May 12, 2017 5:19 pm

Why are my boys Goten and Trunks still so irrelevant when Buu arc hyped them up as the next big thing?
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Post by Boo Machine » Fri May 12, 2017 5:23 pm

emperior wrote:Why are my boys Goten and Trunks still so irrelevant when Buu arc hyped them up as the next big thing?
Because My boi Goku came back into our lives and snuffed that plan out.
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Post by omaro34 » Fri May 12, 2017 6:02 pm

my reaction from the distance to Gohan fans in shambles after he jobs hard in the tournament

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Post by precita » Fri May 12, 2017 6:09 pm

The only reason I'm not too concerned for Trunks/Goten is I think they're saving them for when they finally get to EOZ and use them along with Pan/Uub as new major characters. Trunks will be back in his adult form again which is very popular, and adult Goten's design is really nice.

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Post by Akyon » Fri May 12, 2017 7:38 pm

I almost want to start one up for Krillin so we get the full gang on there.

Alas, he hasn't been getting screwed at all, and has been shown in a pretty positive light overall. I'm actually pretty pleased with the treatment he's been getting. Even the PTSD stuff.

Hopefully the tournament will change that when he gets killed instantly by Frieza who does it just to be an asshole. Then I too can contribute.
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Post by precita » Mon May 15, 2017 4:26 pm

I think this thread will be useful for the actual tournament. If some characters get screwed over in the tournament without at least a decent performance or win, there's going to be a lot of complaining.

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Post by Draconic » Mon May 15, 2017 4:40 pm

You should add some of the "My boy canon" threads.
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Post by The Monkey King » Mon May 15, 2017 4:54 pm

So you're telling me Krillin gets to shine, #17 gets to shine and even God damn Roshi gets to shine but "My Boy" (TM) Tien gets screwed like this!?

The 22nd BT champ, the strongest earthling (when everyone was trained equally by Kami), the man who tangled with Buu and Cell and lived (well didn't immediately die) is suddenly becoming Yamcha level now?

C'mon Toei/Toriyama you've started to redeem "My Boy" (TM) Gohan but stop screwing Tien.

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Post by Zephyr » Mon May 15, 2017 5:14 pm

Tien Shin Han has to be screwed for a few more arcs before he can follow My Boy Gohan's Bang's path to redemption.

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Post by Basaku » Mon May 15, 2017 9:18 pm

precita wrote:The only reason I'm not too concerned for Trunks/Goten is I think they're saving them for when they finally get to EOZ and use them along with Pan/Uub as new major characters. Trunks will be back in his adult form again which is very popular, and adult Goten's design is really nice.
That's a big assumption though. I sure hope it's happening and it would clearly be the most logical and profitable thing to do after current run of Super but there are 2 big 'buts'

1) any post-EOZ series would officially wipe out GT from the quasi-canon in a spectacular fashion. No excuse aiming to reconcile the two series would fly this time. I think Toei is ready to do that and it wouldn't be a big loss especially with quick replacement in form of a brand new content to sell and profit from, but you can't rule the possibility that some executives at Toei may be just fundamentally against openly throwing GT into the bin, especially as it was a series made almost exclusively by Toei. Pride, sense of ownership etc. can factor here heavily
2) Toriyama's past comments how "everyone in EOZ is so old!" which never made sense because there was an entire generation of young fighters but nonetheless, clearly at least at some point he was visibly not ready to move on from Goku/Vegeta generation onto the new one. Perhaps it changed, or perhaps he would have a different idea how to make it work this time but the possibility that he really really doesn't want to do anything in that period remains

So as much as I'm hoping for it, I'm not gonna be putting my bets on it until there's a credible leak or an official confirmation. It would be major move. Logical, practical, fan-appeasing, story-appropirate (following Super) and business-friendly but still a bold move required on Toei's part in particular so I have my doubts

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Post by Rusty Shackleford » Mon May 15, 2017 9:35 pm

I'm so pissed off that my boy, [character that has only previously been seen in preview materials, and whom I obsessed over and invented unrealistic expectations for] jobbed in the newest episode! That completely contradicts my scientifically-researched power level fan chart! I am so fucking angry! This series is garbage! Toriyama is a hack! I'm going to hold a grudge over this and bitch about it for eight months, but I'm going to continue watching the show every week...

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed May 17, 2017 5:55 am

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precita wrote:The only reason I'm not too concerned for Trunks/Goten is I think they're saving them for when they finally get to EOZ and use them along with Pan/Uub as new major characters. Trunks will be back in his adult form again which is very popular, and adult Goten's design is really nice.
That's a big assumption though. I sure hope it's happening and it would clearly be the most logical and profitable thing to do after current run of Super but there are 2 big 'buts'

1) any post-EOZ series would officially wipe out GT from the quasi-canon in a spectacular fashion. No excuse aiming to reconcile the two series would fly this time. I think Toei is ready to do that and it wouldn't be a big loss especially with quick replacement in form of a brand new content to sell and profit from, but you can't rule the possibility that some executives at Toei may be just fundamentally against openly throwing GT into the bin, especially as it was a series made almost exclusively by Toei. Pride, sense of ownership etc. can factor here heavily
2) Toriyama's past comments how "everyone in EOZ is so old!" which never made sense because there was an entire generation of young fighters but nonetheless, clearly at least at some point he was visibly not ready to move on from Goku/Vegeta generation onto the new one. Perhaps it changed, or perhaps he would have a different idea how to make it work this time but the possibility that he really really doesn't want to do anything in that period remains

So as much as I'm hoping for it, I'm not gonna be putting my bets on it until there's a credible leak or an official confirmation. It would be major move. Logical, practical, fan-appeasing, story-appropirate (following Super) and business-friendly but still a bold move required on Toei's part in particular so I have my doubts
GT has already been kicked from canon unless Super ends with a twist where a wish is made that the series never happened.

The ONLY way they could make it work, and you could still have arcs EOZ, is if Goku no longer needs to go Blue somehow to tap into all his God Ki. Yet that would still make us wonder why he goes SSJ and beyond in GT.
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Post by MajinMan » Wed May 17, 2017 7:51 am

You see, posts like these are useless. Gohan's BANG is already back. Which means our boi is back. Nothing else matters. Tenshinhan doesn't even have hair, so he can't grow a bang. Majin Buu is a hairless beast, so it makes sense that he couldn't grow a bang and fell asleep like the complete failure that he is. All of this is useless. We have to accept that the BANG is the ultimate hero of the show. I wish I could touch Gohan's bang.
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Post by HeroR » Wed May 17, 2017 8:08 am

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GT has already been kicked from canon unless Super ends with a twist where a wish is made that the series never happened.

The ONLY way they could make it work, and you could still have arcs EOZ, is if Goku no longer needs to go Blue somehow to tap into all his God Ki. Yet that would still make us wonder why he goes SSJ and beyond in GT.
You also have Gohan using Super Saiyan after he just said he won't used it anymore and work on his Ultimate form.

And the whole "wish is made that the series never happened" wouldn't explain why Freeza never returned or why do hell looks different Super and GT. It also shouldn't effect the Supreme Kai and Kibito defusing.
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Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Ki Breaker » Wed May 17, 2017 12:14 pm

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Ki Breaker wrote:Ooh the satire, uuh lala
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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Wed May 17, 2017 4:22 pm

HeroR wrote:
GodKaio-Ken wrote:
GT has already been kicked from canon unless Super ends with a twist where a wish is made that the series never happened.

The ONLY way they could make it work, and you could still have arcs EOZ, is if Goku no longer needs to go Blue somehow to tap into all his God Ki. Yet that would still make us wonder why he goes SSJ and beyond in GT.
You also have Gohan using Super Saiyan after he just said he won't used it anymore and work on his Ultimate form.

And the whole "wish is made that the series never happened" wouldn't explain why Freeza never returned or why do hell looks different Super and GT. It also shouldn't effect the Supreme Kai and Kibito defusing.

Exactly...so many reasons GT cant be canon with Super. Kai and Kibito would have to decide they enjoyed being together more than apart lol
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