precita wrote:A real shame we're only going to see less than an episode or two of Krillin fighting, and probably not even that. Only 2 episodes till he's eliminated and the preview to this weeks doesn't focus on him at all.
So Krillin got all that build-up for maybe half an episode of fighting. I have no idea how they thought this was a good thing. Even if they still wanted Krillin to be disqualified, they could have waited further into the tournament.
Would it really have made a difference though? If they waited till further in the tournament then they would have to still focus on someone else until they got to Krillin, because U7 aren't the only fighters that need a little time, in which case that's still time not being used for him. He would just be standing in the ring throwing punches at some random fighter like half the cast is currently doing until the fighters got shaved down then we would have this same scenario.
I think people are putting way too much value in how much time someone spends in the ring as opposed to how well they are doing. As long as Krillin goes out like a champ I don't really see why it matters whether he goes out now or later.
SaiyanGod117 wrote:
They still needed to extensively train with him and be supervised by him for them to efficiently control God Ki. Not only that but that dimension Whis sent Goku and Vegeta to was to significantly speed up the progress on their training.
They didn't. Whis was actually upset since he told Goku and Vegeta could do this stuff at home and didn't need him. Nothing in his training had anything to do with god ki. The dimension Whis sent them only made them train within a faster amount of time, which is really no different from the time chamber.
Then we must be watching two different shows, because keeping Ki in your body while maintaining no leakage produces God Ki. The dimension they were sent to was key part into that, as seen they weren't even able to move a muscle until they mastered keeping in Ki their body without leakage. Incidentally, it was similar to the ROSAT in the regard speeding up your lurning curve and progress for training, but only for a specific type of training. With that said, I still think the way to attain God Ki is stupid.
That was never said in the show. That's just an assumption. If it was, please point to the episode.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
precita wrote:A real shame we're only going to see less than an episode or two of Krillin fighting, and probably not even that. Only 2 episodes till he's eliminated and the preview to this weeks doesn't focus on him at all.
So Krillin got all that build-up for maybe half an episode of fighting. I have no idea how they thought this was a good thing. Even if they still wanted Krillin to be disqualified, they could have waited further into the tournament.
Would it really have made a difference though? If they waited till further in the tournament then they would have to still focus on someone else until they got to Krillin, because U7 aren't the only fighters that need a little time, in which case that's still time not being used for him. He would just be standing in the ring throwing punches at some random fighter like half the cast is currently doing until the fighters got shaved down then we would have this same scenario.
I think people are putting way too much value in how much time someone spends in the ring as opposed to how well they are doing. As long as Krillin goes out like a champ I don't really see why it matters whether he goes out now or later.
That's definitely what it feels like. It seems some people think being in longer automatically means he'd get any more focus.
This is quite interesting, Goku and Freeza fighting together is something that I would like to see in the actual arc, but Gogeta caught my attention there, what the rules of ToP says about Fusion? I know it's very unlikely to happen, but Gogeta being the last man in the Universe 7 would be pretty awesome.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Boo Machine wrote:
I think people are putting way too much value in how much time someone spends in the ring as opposed to how well they are doing. As long as Krillin goes out like a champ I don't really see why it matters whether he goes out now or later.
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but he's going out three episodes onto the tournament, and the pre-airing summary for the episode where he goes out puts a decent focus on Goku and Vegeta (cutting into any screen time for Kuririn), and it sounds like he screws up and gets disqualified. Plus, Toei tends to use Kuririn as incompetent comic relief. They already portrayed him as almost getting killed by Freeza's sub-Raditz scrubs in the RoF film because he ran into a tree. I wouldn't put it past Toei to have him go out like a chump for laughs.
It's a bit premature and it might be a good scene for him, but Toei's standard treatment of the character doesn't make me hopeful.
Besides, I'm usually disappointed instead of pleasantly surprised, so it's best to be cynical.
Gray Riders wrote:
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but he's going out three episodes onto the tournament, and the pre-airing summary for the episode where he goes out puts a decent focus on Goku and Vegeta (cutting into any screen time for Kuririn), and it sounds like he screws up and gets disqualified. Plus, Toei tends to use Kuririn as incompetent comic relief. They already portrayed him as almost getting killed by Freeza's sub-Raditz scrubs in the RoF film because he ran into a tree. I wouldn't put it past Toei to have him go out like a chump for laughs.
It's a bit premature and it might be a good scene for him, but Toei's standard treatment of the character doesn't make me hopeful.
Besides, I'm usually disappointed instead of pleasantly surprised, so it's best to be cynical.
Personally I feel it's best to remain neutral. You don't have to be "Hype" but I don't feel there is any value in just being cynical. It sounds like it takes too much mental effort for me with no pay off.
But in any case,
Not expecting anything from Krillin is fine, but there isn't any real point in acting like he has been chumped before the episode even airs other than spreading premature outrage. Like I said, someone being in the ring for a huge amount of time doesn't mean they're doing anything worthwhile. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of nameless mooks that well be tossed out of the ring after Krillin but won't have as good a showing as he does.
If the new form has red irises, then it's automatically the best form.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
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Lapislettuce wrote:
Frieza might try to fight Jiren or team up with Goku but Frieza will obviously fail besides it only showed Goku and Frieza vs Jiren and why would that fight happen anyway ? if the last people standing are these 3 then universe 7 wins automatically no need to fight.
No, they win when the time limit runs out.
There is however, another DB heroes card where Goku and Frieza face Hitto and Jiren. Will they be the final four?
It's unknown who the final four will be besides goku and jiren being two of them don't take stuff that happen in Hero's that seriously
I wouldn't be shocked if it came down to Frieza, Goku, Hit, and Jiren. Goku needs someone on his team to prevent Jiren from smacking him off of the map while he internalizes his ki for the new "form." And this person has to be Frieza, provided this person is from U7. Otherwise the entire subplot of Frieza manipulating the gods is pointless. He has to last extremely long, to put it lightly, for such a subplot to have any relevance at all. It's hard to conceive Hit losing prior to the final 4-5 as well, because a) he's Hit, and evolved at that, and b) The best way to job him is to wait until after we see the extent of his new powers, after we see him take down some serious threats, and make it all the way to the end with the likes of Goku.
Maybe an invisible/tiny fighter is in the top 4-5 too, who knows . I sure hope not. I don't want to be worrying about trivialities like that so late in the tournament.
HeroR wrote:
They didn't. Whis was actually upset since he told Goku and Vegeta could do this stuff at home and didn't need him. Nothing in his training had anything to do with god ki. The dimension Whis sent them only made them train within a faster amount of time, which is really no different from the time chamber.
Then we must be watching two different shows, because keeping Ki in your body while maintaining no leakage produces God Ki. The dimension they were sent to was key part into that, as seen they weren't even able to move a muscle until they mastered keeping in Ki their body without leakage. Incidentally, it was similar to the ROSAT in the regard speeding up your lurning curve and progress for training, but only for a specific type of training. With that said, I still think the way to attain God Ki is stupid.
That was never said in the show. That's just an assumption. If it was, please point to the episode.
It was said in episode 22 or 23 episode that the dimension they were training would significantly speed up their progress. If you're talking about the attainment of God Ki, it wasn't explicitly said on how to get it, but Goku and Vegeta were both training to master God Ki and keep Ki leakage to absoulete zero; evidently the training was more a case of show instead tell.
Goku and Freeza definitely have to be the last two remaining at this point. It's a shame though. After all this BS about team work and strategy, it's not going to matter. I'm interested in how they're going to ring out Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan though. I hope they are neat moments.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
kinisking wrote:Goku and Freeza definitely have to be the last two remaining at this point. It's a shame though. After all this BS about team work and strategy, it's not going to matter. I'm interested in how they're going to ring out Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan though. I hope they are neat moments.
we don't know if freeza will be the last five standing
And we still don't know how the others will perform or be ringed out let alone the teamwork and strategy thing so it's better to wait and see this week and next to give us a better idea
kinisking wrote:Goku and Freeza definitely have to be the last two remaining at this point. It's a shame though. After all this BS about team work and strategy, it's not going to matter. I'm interested in how they're going to ring out Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan though. I hope they are neat moments.
Not a surprise there,remember how teamwork helped Gohan/Piccolo against Goku/Tien?Or in the latest episode where gohan and the baldies attacked those random opponents and in both times it did nothing?
-I feel bad for universe 9, particularly the Trio de Dangers. At least they had a good showing in the exhibition matches.
-I also feel bad for Krillin, so I hope he does good before he gets eliminated.
-Caulifla could possibly transform into super saiyan black hole in the next saga.
-Kale better do something that could redeem her character before she jobs.
From Super episode 113 thread:
MaskedRider wrote:
Torturephile wrote:
hunduel wrote:I liked this episode. I seriously don't know why people hate it.
namekiansaiyan wrote:I seriously don't see why some of you like this episode when nothing happened and was basically filler.
kinisking wrote:Goku and Freeza definitely have to be the last two remaining at this point. It's a shame though. After all this BS about team work and strategy, it's not going to matter. I'm interested in how they're going to ring out Vegeta, Krillin and Gohan though. I hope they are neat moments.
Ki Breaker wrote:It's fan made, but if this is how the hair would look from the front, that would be great
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This would be awesome. I also hope this time the hair won't be detailed as always, I'd like it to flow similar to Goku's SSJ when he first transformed, this picture gives the idea as the hair looks flowy.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
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Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima
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. I sure hope not. I don't want to be worrying about trivialities like that so late in the tournament.
