"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Dragonballgod19 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:26 pm

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Mate, could you stop making double, triple posts? You can edit all that and put in a single one.
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Jigurashi wrote:Lol, you're getting triggered over something as trivial as this? The hate boner is strong with this one.
The only character I hate is caulif I just think goku extremely overrated

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Post by Noah » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:28 pm

Freeza9000 wrote:Dragon Ball Super Episode 100 Preview Image
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My gosh! This looks terrible! Even being a totally different character, I just saw Super Trunks with boobs! Could people explain how the heck this makes any sense? I mean Caulifla attained SSJ2 so easily why she would need such a obsolete form?
Dragonballgod19 wrote:The only character I hate is caulif I just think goku extremely overrated
Why? My only problem with Caulifla besides her attitude is her design. I really don't like it.
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Post by Dragonballgod19 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:36 pm

Noah wrote:
Freeza9000 wrote:Dragon Ball Super Episode 100 Preview Image
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
My gosh! This looks terrible! Even being a totally different character, I just saw Super Trunks with boobs! Could people explain how the heck this makes any sense? I mean Caulifla attained SSJ2 so easily why she would need such a obsolete form?
Dragonballgod19 wrote:The only character I hate is caulif I just think goku extremely overrated
Why? My only problem with Caulifla besides her attitude is her design. I really don't like it.
Goku only that strong because he's the main character,Caulifla is getting that strong because toei wank she gets ssj,ssj2 in seconds and she's probably getting Ssb

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:39 pm

Noah wrote:
Freeza9000 wrote:Dragon Ball Super Episode 100 Preview Image
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
My gosh! This looks terrible! Even being a totally different character, I just saw Super Trunks with boobs! Could people explain how the heck this makes any sense? I mean Caulifla attained SSJ2 so easily why she would need such a obsolete form?
Thank you! This is exactly what I said! Literally wrote the exact same thing!

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Post by Jigurashi » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:40 pm

Dragonballgod19 wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:Lol, you're getting triggered over something as trivial as this? The hate boner is strong with this one.
The only character I hate is caulif I just think goku extremely overrated
Yes he is overrated, so are Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and Tenshinhan. But you trashing Goku simply because of a comment made about Vegeta always being humiliated especially when a lot of what you said is either non-canon, isn't jobbing, and or applies literally to just about every other character is what's laughable. You asked why Goku isn't ever brought up, he is brought up when he takes L's. As I mentioned he usually just outperforms everyone else. You also mentioned cause he's the MC, well yeah no duh. Applies to most MCs in any series, Goku ain't special in that regard.

Then there's "Goku's only strong because he's the MC". Obviously, the plot has him being strong, just like the plot has any character be as strong or weak in any given scenario. Mentioning this was moot.

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Dragonballgod19 wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:Lol, you're getting triggered over something as trivial as this? The hate boner is strong with this one.
The only character I hate is caulif I just think goku extremely overrated
Yes he is overrated, so are Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and Tenshinhan. But you trashing Goku simply because of a comment made about Vegeta always being humiliated especially when a lot of what you said is either non-canon, isn't jobbing, and or applies literally to just about every other character is what's laughable. You asked why Goku isn't ever brought up, he is brought up when he takes L's. As I mentioned he usually just outperforms everyone else. You also mentioned cause he's the MC, well yeah no duh. Applies to most MCs in any series, Goku ain't special in that regard.

Then there's "Goku's only strong because he's the MC". Obviously, the plot has him being strong, just like the plot has any character be as strong or weak in any given scenario. Mentioning this was moot.
Goku always getting humiliated too and come back when he does get own by superman

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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:47 pm

TheMikado wrote:
Noah wrote:
Freeza9000 wrote:Dragon Ball Super Episode 100 Preview Image
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
My gosh! This looks terrible! Even being a totally different character, I just saw Super Trunks with boobs! Could people explain how the heck this makes any sense? I mean Caulifla attained SSJ2 so easily why she would need such a obsolete form?
Thank you! This is exactly what I said! Literally wrote the exact same thing!
Why is the Saiyan that knows little about SUper Saiyan outside of 'tingles in her back' doing it wrong a problem?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Jigurashi » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:50 pm

Dragonballgod19 wrote:
Jigurashi wrote:
Dragonballgod19 wrote: The only character I hate is caulif I just think goku extremely overrated
Yes he is overrated, so are Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and Tenshinhan. But you trashing Goku simply because of a comment made about Vegeta always being humiliated especially when a lot of what you said is either non-canon, isn't jobbing, and or applies literally to just about every other character is what's laughable. You asked why Goku isn't ever brought up, he is brought up when he takes L's. As I mentioned he usually just outperforms everyone else. You also mentioned cause he's the MC, well yeah no duh. Applies to most MCs in any series, Goku ain't special in that regard.

Then there's "Goku's only strong because he's the MC". Obviously, the plot has him being strong, just like the plot has any character be as strong or weak in any given scenario. Mentioning this was moot.
Goku always getting humiliated too and come back when he does get own by superman
Yes he does. But as I said before, you can come back to me when he stops outperforming most characters in the series. Which is the point I'm making. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Superman though when I never mentioned him once either.

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Post by Dragonballgod19 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:54 pm

Jigurashi wrote:
Dragonballgod19 wrote:
Jigurashi wrote: Yes he is overrated, so are Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and Tenshinhan. But you trashing Goku simply because of a comment made about Vegeta always being humiliated especially when a lot of what you said is either non-canon, isn't jobbing, and or applies literally to just about every other character is what's laughable. You asked why Goku isn't ever brought up, he is brought up when he takes L's. As I mentioned he usually just outperforms everyone else. You also mentioned cause he's the MC, well yeah no duh. Applies to most MCs in any series, Goku ain't special in that regard.

Then there's "Goku's only strong because he's the MC". Obviously, the plot has him being strong, just like the plot has any character be as strong or weak in any given scenario. Mentioning this was moot.
Goku always getting humiliated too and come back when he does get own by superman
Yes he does. But as I said before, you can come back to me when he stops outperforming most characters in the series. Which is the point I'm making. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Superman though when I never mentioned him once either.
outperforming lol trunks was doing that the whole arc spirit sword trunk>goku and question has goku out outperform whis or beerus Omni king or and literally all the god of destructions or baby pan lmao and again when goku outperforms superman then we can talk

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:57 pm

Kanassa wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
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My gosh! This looks terrible! Even being a totally different character, I just saw Super Trunks with boobs! Could people explain how the heck this makes any sense? I mean Caulifla attained SSJ2 so easily why she would need such a obsolete form?
Thank you! This is exactly what I said! Literally wrote the exact same thing!
Why is the Saiyan that knows little about SUper Saiyan outside of 'tingles in her back' doing it wrong a problem?
Because she has SSJ2....
I already made the comparison of Vegeta suddenly getting SSJ3 now after he has SSB Gohan getting it after he has Ultimate, it wouldn't make sense as it's less powerful and has more drawbacks. Is not just a Caulifa thing it wouldn't make sense for something similar to occur for anybody. That doesn't even take into account that it's awful design wise.

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Post by Yomi » Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:59 pm

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Kanassa wrote:
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Thank you! This is exactly what I said! Literally wrote the exact same thing!
Why is the Saiyan that knows little about SUper Saiyan outside of 'tingles in her back' doing it wrong a problem?
Because she has SSJ2....
I already made the comparison of Vegeta suddenly getting SSJ3 now after he has SSB Gohan getting it after he has Ultimate, it wouldn't make sense as it's less powerful and has more drawbacks. Is not just a Caulifa thing it wouldn't make sense for something similar to occur for anybody. That doesn't even take into account that it's awful design wise.
I think she did it subconsciously to save Cabba. I don't think she even knew she changed.
i don't think she was flying down thinking "I'M GOING TO ASCEND 3 LEVELS NOW!!! TO SAVE CABBA!!!"
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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:01 pm

TheMikado wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
TheMikado wrote:
Thank you! This is exactly what I said! Literally wrote the exact same thing!
Why is the Saiyan that knows little about SUper Saiyan outside of 'tingles in her back' doing it wrong a problem?
Because she has SSJ2....
And because she has SS2 (Something of which she herself doesn''t even seem to realise she has) she can't make the same mistake Trunks did in assuming upping her muscle mass would help?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Kanassa wrote: Why is the Saiyan that knows little about SUper Saiyan outside of 'tingles in her back' doing it wrong a problem?
Because she has SSJ2....
I already made the comparison of Vegeta suddenly getting SSJ3 now after he has SSB Gohan getting it after he has Ultimate, it wouldn't make sense as it's less powerful and has more drawbacks. Is not just a Caulifa thing it wouldn't make sense for something similar to occur for anybody. That doesn't even take into account that it's awful design wise.
I think she did it subconsciously to save Cabba. I don't think she even knew she changed.
i don't think she was flying down thinking "I'M GOING TO ASCEND 3 LEVELS NOW!!! TO SAVE CABBA!!!"
When's the last time anyone one has EVER accidentally ascended a SSJ level without realizing they did??

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Post by Amerigo » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:04 pm

Dragonballgod19 wrote: Goku only that strong because he's the main character
The problem with this statement is that it pretty much applies to everyone. Vegeta is only that strong because he's Goku's rival.

Also, there are logical reasons for Goku being that strong. It's not as if he's strong 'just because'.

Goku is a genius fighter that is capable of stealing techniques and perfecting them, he also has a godlike understanding of his own body which allows him to achieve a higher state of being that Vegeta.

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Post by Dragonballgod19 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:07 pm

Amerigo wrote:
Dragonballgod19 wrote: Goku only that strong because he's the main character
The problem with this statement is that it pretty much applies to everyone. Vegeta is only that strong because he's Goku's rival.

Also, there are logical reasons for Goku being that strong. It's not as if he's strong 'just because'.

Goku is a genius fighter that is capable of stealing techniques and perfecting them, he also has a godlike understanding of his own body which allows him to achieve a higher state of being that Vegeta.
Ok take away every character who train goku and he would still be weaker than raditz he wouldn't have kaioken,ssj forms and he would probably still be weaker than king piccolo,now take away every character who train vegeta and he would be ssj2 level since he trained by himself before he trained with whis notice the difference

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Post by Boo Machine » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:08 pm

TheMikado wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
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Thank you! This is exactly what I said! Literally wrote the exact same thing!
Why is the Saiyan that knows little about SUper Saiyan outside of 'tingles in her back' doing it wrong a problem?
Because she has SSJ2....
I already made the comparison of Vegeta suddenly getting SSJ3 now after he has SSB Gohan getting it after he has Ultimate, it wouldn't make sense as it's less powerful and has more drawbacks. Is not just a Caulifa thing it wouldn't make sense for something similar to occur for anybody. That doesn't even take into account that it's awful design wise.
I think the argument here is that Cualifla nor any of the U6 Saiyans have much knowledge about SSJ and the higher forms after. If she is doing it wrong then it could just be because she is ignorant about it, or maybe a small chance that she is trying to copy Kale but can't grasp why Kales form works and just thinks that muscle is all that matters.

Vegeta getting SSJ3 doesn't work because Vegeta understands how SSJ forms work, where it's still new to Caulifla. If Vegeta was aiming for SSJ3 it would just make him dumb.

But these are all maybes until the episode airs, but I don't think it's too out there, to assume Caulifla just doesn't know better.

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Because she has SSJ2....
I already made the comparison of Vegeta suddenly getting SSJ3 now after he has SSB Gohan getting it after he has Ultimate, it wouldn't make sense as it's less powerful and has more drawbacks. Is not just a Caulifa thing it wouldn't make sense for something similar to occur for anybody. That doesn't even take into account that it's awful design wise.
I think she did it subconsciously to save Cabba. I don't think she even knew she changed.
i don't think she was flying down thinking "I'M GOING TO ASCEND 3 LEVELS NOW!!! TO SAVE CABBA!!!"
When's the last time anyone one has EVER accidentally ascended a SSJ level without realizing they did??
I think he means she might not have gone SSJ2 on purpose. Which happens a lot in the past. Goku didn't mean to go SSJ against Freeza. He just did.

Though now that I think about it would Goku Jr. count as a time someone went SSJ without them realizing it? He transformed and then passed out, then he woke up not remembering what happened.
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Post by Amerigo » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:14 pm

Dragonballgod19 wrote: Ok take away every character who train goku and he would still be weaker than raditz he wouldn't have kaioken,ssj forms and he would probably still be weaker than king piccolo,now take away every character who train vegeta and he would be ssj2 level since he trained by himself before he trained with whis notice the difference
Take away Bulma's gravity machine and Vegeta never even becomes a Super Saiyan to begin with.

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Post by Dragonballgod19 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:17 pm

Amerigo wrote:
Dragonballgod19 wrote: Ok take away every character who train goku and he would still be weaker than raditz he wouldn't have kaioken,ssj forms and he would probably still be weaker than king piccolo,now take away every character who train vegeta and he would be ssj2 level since he trained by himself before he trained with whis notice the difference
Take away Bulma's gravity machine and Vegeta never even becomes a Super Saiyan to begin with.
Then he would be as strong as 3 form Freeza still doesn't change the fact that goku would be regular human level

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Post by alakazam^ » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:20 pm

TheMikado wrote:When's the last time anyone one has EVER accidentally ascended a SSJ level without realizing they did??
We don't know to what extent she actually understands ki and transformations. If that really is the 3rd grade, she might not realize the drawbacks yet or she might not be able to access SS2 at will yet.

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