"Earth's Hell" - discussing the Other World(s)
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"Earth's Hell" - discussing the Other World(s)
In Resurrection F and Super we've seen the Hell that Freeza finds himself in referred to as "Earth's Hell". I think we may have also heard Enma/Yemma's place referred to as "Earth's" check-in station to the Other World.
Do you think this means each planet has a separate Heaven, a separate judge, even a separate Snake Way to their galaxy's Kaio that somehow remembers which planet's check-in station you left from on the way back? Do the Other Worlds associated with dead planets still exist? How different are they? Do they still have a Heaven/Hell or other systems entirely? What happens to people who die in space?
I imagine Toriyama probably never thought much of this through, but that the answer to the majority of these questions would be "yes". People who die in space probably arrive at the check-in for the nearest active planet or their home planet, and distance/transport likely works in strange ways. So it might be possible to get a taxi from one check-in to another, for example, or from any check-in to the Snake Road.
Do the Kaio/Kaioshin create a new Otherworld every time they create life on a new planet?
Anyway, I was just wondering about this stuff and decided to see what everyone else had to say about it, and what odd questions other people had come up with
Do you think this means each planet has a separate Heaven, a separate judge, even a separate Snake Way to their galaxy's Kaio that somehow remembers which planet's check-in station you left from on the way back? Do the Other Worlds associated with dead planets still exist? How different are they? Do they still have a Heaven/Hell or other systems entirely? What happens to people who die in space?
I imagine Toriyama probably never thought much of this through, but that the answer to the majority of these questions would be "yes". People who die in space probably arrive at the check-in for the nearest active planet or their home planet, and distance/transport likely works in strange ways. So it might be possible to get a taxi from one check-in to another, for example, or from any check-in to the Snake Road.
Do the Kaio/Kaioshin create a new Otherworld every time they create life on a new planet?
Anyway, I was just wondering about this stuff and decided to see what everyone else had to say about it, and what odd questions other people had come up with
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Re: "Earth's Hell" - discussing the Other World(s)
I think Earth has its own hell. We know that when Kuririn died on Namek, it was alluded to that he did not end up in the same place as he would have had he died on Earth, so they wished him to the Earth's check-in station. Then later on, we see that there are north, south, east, and west Kaios, so I guess it's done by that way. Maybe Namek fell under a different quadrant (if that's the right word). In either event, it appears that Earth has its own thing going on.
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When Goku visits Yemma on his way to recruit Freeza for the Survival Tournament (Super), Yemma asks to make sure Frieza dies in different place, so he doesn't have to deal with him.
I think it's all conflicting info though, as Greatness25 said, when Kuririn died on Namek, he didn't end up in "Earths Hell", but Frieza did..
I think it's all conflicting info though, as Greatness25 said, when Kuririn died on Namek, he didn't end up in "Earths Hell", but Frieza did..
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Wait, but Freeza died on earth, twice, I'm confused here.LordCrumb wrote: I think it's all conflicting info though, as Greatness25 said, when Kuririn died on Namek, he didn't end up in "Earths Hell", but Frieza did..
Either way Yemma shouldn't worry, unless Freeza is wished back to life no one will have to deal with him if he dies.
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Oh yes sorry, I forgot that he didn't actually die on Namek.
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Re: "Earth's Hell" - discussing the Other World(s)
IIRC, we never found that out for sure.LordCrumb wrote:when Kuririn died on Namek, he didn't end up in "Earths Hell"
I can't remember if he received Kaio's training, but if he did, I don't think we ever actually saw him at the check-in station or anything. Since Kaio is the Kaio of the north galaxy, I imagine all the check-in stations and hells of that galaxy would have some way of getting to Snake Way, or otherwise some other way to get to Kaio's planet.
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Krillin never met King Kai, so no he never received his training. The only time Krillin see's King Kai is in the Buu saga but that's filler after Kid Blew blows up the Earth.
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Well there we are then.
So, if I remember correctly, Krillin was only dead in Z during the end of the Namek arc, and in the Boo arc after Super Boo kills everyone.
We never actually saw Krillin dead in the Namek arc, with the next time we see him after his death being when he's revived, so the only time we've seen Krillin dead properly is in the Boo arc when he actually did die on Earth, but we only saw him in the filler in that place heroes go, last seen in the afterlife tournament arc.
So "Earth's hell" isn't a retcon, or any kind of contradiction at all. It partially contradicts GT's Super #17 arc, but GT and Super are independent of one-another at the moment, so there's no contradiction there, really.
So, if I remember correctly, Krillin was only dead in Z during the end of the Namek arc, and in the Boo arc after Super Boo kills everyone.
We never actually saw Krillin dead in the Namek arc, with the next time we see him after his death being when he's revived, so the only time we've seen Krillin dead properly is in the Boo arc when he actually did die on Earth, but we only saw him in the filler in that place heroes go, last seen in the afterlife tournament arc.
So "Earth's hell" isn't a retcon, or any kind of contradiction at all. It partially contradicts GT's Super #17 arc, but GT and Super are independent of one-another at the moment, so there's no contradiction there, really.
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Technically, they had a conversation in the Saiyan arc, when Goku passed the spirit bomb to Krillin's hands, if I'm not wrong.precita wrote:Krillin never met King Kai, so no he never received his training. The only time Krillin see's King Kai is in the Buu saga but that's filler after Kid Blew blows up the Earth.