Should Goku get a new form?

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Post by FoolsGil » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:34 pm

For what it's worth, I liked the level of restraint Super has had when it comes to Goku and new God forms. 3 arcs with Blue, I wish it was like that in Z. I don't think Goku should get a new form. He probably will, but I don't think he should.

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Post by KingKaash » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:50 pm

TheBigBoy wrote:Nope. Get rid of forms altogether. Have Whis or one of the gods wave their hand and say "Boom, you're at full strength now. You don't need to turn SSJ 1, 2 ,3 God or Blue or Pink or Purple or whatever anymore."
I have a feeling that if they want to match the EOZ and then kind of follow the GT path, they might have Whis strip Goku and Vegeta of their God ki. Then Goku and Vegeta would have to train with their SSJ forms again and would be back on track to unlock SSJ4.

This is all if the writers want to keep SSJ4 around or not. Because if they do, it wouldn't make sense to have SSJB or beyond powers but then also have Goku and Vegeta introduce SSJ4 since SSJB is way above SSJ4
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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:17 am

I honestly don't care. I don't think there should have been any more SSJ forms after SSJ3, but at this stage it's just a gimmick to sell more merchandise. If design is interesting and method to obtain is unique enough, I'll be fine with it. If Super go the lazy route and just have another SSJ re-colour, I'll be indifferent to. I'm just so numb to the concept a new SSJ form, especially for Goku. It's lost its mystique many years ago.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Vegeta123 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:06 pm

no vegeta should get a new form

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by MajinMan » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:13 pm

Vegeta123 wrote:no vegeta should get a new form
Vegeta is a side character. Why should he get a new form over Goku?
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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Amerigo » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:30 pm

MajinMan wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:no vegeta should get a new form
Vegeta is a side character. Why should he get a new form over Goku?
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Vegeta123 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:33 pm

Amerigo wrote:
MajinMan wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:no vegeta should get a new form
Vegeta is a side character. Why should he get a new form over Goku?
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Saturnine » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:45 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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Boo Machine wrote:I'm not a fan of the escalating forms, and haven't been since I found out they started numbering them. (And yet SSJ 3 is my favorite) So I hope the God forms don't get the same treatment.

If Goku is getting a new form I want it to be different from the others. Also not something he can just pop in and out of like he does with everything else. a little vague but I don't even know what I want for sure. So I'll just wait and see what I get.
I also feel like you. I would like the new form to be a permanent power-up that cancels every other form (bar base unless it doesn't bring any physical change).
I'm tired of seeing Goku always holding back by changing between his forms, so I'd like to see things go back to how they used to be in OG Dragon Ball. That's also how every character except for the Saiyans works.
RoF tried to simplify it with Goku and Vegeta, but for some reason Toriyama went back to the old forms.
Nothing ever implied the old forms were gone at all in Resurrection "F" not a single thing, it is another example of fans building self-expectations and making shit up in their heads when nothing really was there.
Well, Goku actually did say that once you've made the SSjG power your own, the SSj state of that is SSj Blue. So no one is making things up, it's Toriyama that went back on this perfectly serviceable evolution of the Saiyans because he realized he had made them too powerful and it would be hard to write compelling drama with them being so powerful.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Saturnine » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:51 pm

MajinMan wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:no vegeta should get a new form
Vegeta is a side character. Why should he get a new form over Goku?
Yamcha is a side character. Vegeta is a main character.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Whatever » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:52 pm

Vegeta123 wrote:
Amerigo wrote:
MajinMan wrote:
Vegeta is a side character. Why should he get a new form over Goku?
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
Thats what all losers say but both dragonball and real life does not work that way.
Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta and he will continue to be so,in every saga by the end of it Goku was much stronger than him.
He is only there to job so we would be reminded how much better Goku is than him.

No matter how much you dream of it,Goku is always gonna be stronger and better than him and Vegeta is always gonna be just a side character, a midget always living in Goku's shadow nothing more.

Sorry but life is not that nice,you need to stop being delusional and accept this truth.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by RedHeat » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:55 pm

Whatever wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:
Amerigo wrote:
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
Thats what all losers say but both dragonball and real life does not work that way.
Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta and he will continue to be so,in every saga by the end of it Goku was much stronger than him.
He is only there to job so we would be reminded how much better Goku is than him.

No matter how much you dream of it,Goku is always gonna be stronger and better than him and Vegeta is always gonna be just a side character, a midget always living in Goku's shadow nothing more.

Sorry but life is not that nice,you need to stop being delusional and accept this truth.
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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Swifticuffs » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:09 pm

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the crap posting too, but it is funny as heck when people start using social stuff and dragonball at the same time. Effective trolling, I'd say.

Anyway, Goku is getting a new form. Check this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGTo8d5V0AED_-x.jpg:large

As stupid as it sounds, there's a small image of Goku with SSJ Style hair in the upper right corner, yet the hair is red. So.... yeah.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Vegeta123 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:12 pm

Whatever wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:
Amerigo wrote:
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
Thats what all losers say but both dragonball and real life does not work that way.
Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta and he will continue to be so,in every saga by the end of it Goku was much stronger than him.
He is only there to job so we would be reminded how much better Goku is than him.

No matter how much you dream of it,Goku is always gonna be stronger and better than him and Vegeta is always gonna be just a side character, a midget always living in Goku's shadow nothing more.

Sorry but life is not that nice,you need to stop being delusional and accept this truth.
I would hate you more if you had that slug as your avatar, but stop with the nonsense.

Goku's personality is so naive and stupid. He's the main charracter so of course he will achieve greather strength.

But Vegeta has a tougher mentality......goku is a softie who isn't street smart. You'll see when the prince reclaims his honor as the strongest saiyan alive. You'll eat a buffet of crow.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Amerigo » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:17 pm

Vegeta123 wrote:
Amerigo wrote:
MajinMan wrote:
Vegeta is a side character. Why should he get a new form over Goku?
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
If Goku and Vegeta fought each other, right now, at their very best, Goku would one-shot him. And Goku is getting a new form, remember?

Goku is like 8 inches taller than Vegeta, has wider shoulders, bigger hands and feet, etc. That quite obviously plays a role in his dominance. Who do you think would win a fight between Muhammad Ali and Manny Paquiao?

Goku is Muhammad Ali, Vegeta is Manny Pacquiao.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Vegeta123 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:20 pm

Amerigo wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:
Amerigo wrote:
Of course, it would make no sense for the sidekick to overshadow the taller, stronger, more dominant, handsome main character.

That would be nothing more than wish fulfillment to appeal to underdogs, but real life rarely ever works that way.
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
If Goku and Vegeta fought each other, right now, at their very best, Goku would one-shot him. And Goku is getting a new form, remember?

Goku is like 8 inches taller than Vegeta, has wider shoulders, bigger hands and feet, etc. That quite obviously plays a role in his dominance. Who do you think would win a fight between Muhammad Ali and Manny Paquiao?

Goku is Muhammad Ali, Vegeta is Manny Pacquiao.
This isn't boxing. That ugly green slug who i will never say his name is much taller than vegeta yet vegeta can crush him like a bug......height doesn't mean anything.

Vegeta is always at the gravity chamber......always working....his work ethic is second to none. goku will always be a brainless fool

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Amerigo » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:35 pm

Vegeta123 wrote:
Amerigo wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
If Goku and Vegeta fought each other, right now, at their very best, Goku would one-shot him. And Goku is getting a new form, remember?

Goku is like 8 inches taller than Vegeta, has wider shoulders, bigger hands and feet, etc. That quite obviously plays a role in his dominance. Who do you think would win a fight between Muhammad Ali and Manny Paquiao?

Goku is Muhammad Ali, Vegeta is Manny Pacquiao.
This isn't boxing. That ugly green slug who i will never say his name is much taller than vegeta yet vegeta can crush him like a bug......height doesn't mean anything.

Vegeta is always at the gravity chamber......always working....his work ethic is second to none. goku will always be a brainless fool
But Goku and Vegeta are the same race, so height does play a role.

And work ethic can only get you so far in life. I could work out every day and never be run as fast as Usain Bolt.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Whatever » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:43 pm

Vegeta123 wrote:
Whatever wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:
Ha! Talk big now but ull see what happens. Vegeta was always neck and neck with Goku. he will surpass him.

And dont mention ehight. Why say he's taller? That doesnt mean anything.
Thats what all losers say but both dragonball and real life does not work that way.
Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta and he will continue to be so,in every saga by the end of it Goku was much stronger than him.
He is only there to job so we would be reminded how much better Goku is than him.

No matter how much you dream of it,Goku is always gonna be stronger and better than him and Vegeta is always gonna be just a side character, a midget always living in Goku's shadow nothing more.

Sorry but life is not that nice,you need to stop being delusional and accept this truth.
I would hate you more if you had that slug as your avatar, but stop with the nonsense.

Goku's personality is so naive and stupid. He's the main charracter so of course he will achieve greather strength.

But Vegeta has a tougher mentality......goku is a softie who isn't street smart. You'll see when the prince reclaims his honor as the strongest saiyan alive. You'll eat a buffet of crow.
So you do not like my avatar?Is it because Freeza killed Vegeta twice?Vegeta is the only person to have been killed by the same person twice and the person who killed him has made Vegeta his bitch his entire life no less.Thats quite a record.
Even the slug has accomplished more than Vegeta.He at the least killed Goku,something Vegeta could only dream of and yet always failling at doing so.

Also why do you hate me?What nonsense?Is it because i am telling you the truth?
Life is not that nice,you need to adapt and accept the truth as it is,not what you wish would happen.
Vegeta has a tougher mentality........yet always cries on how much better Goku is than him.
Vegeta has never been the strongest saiyan because in the end Goku was and will always be much better than him.

As for the topic Goku gets a new form because he is that much better than Vegeta in everything.Vegeta even says so in the buu saga.
There is no way you could compare the taller,stronger,,more dominant,handsome main character to the midget,weaker,submissive,uglier,jobber side character.
Both dragonball and real life are not that nice,Vegeta will always be weaker than the clearly more gifted and better Goku.
You cannot change that no matter how much you believe,it is what it is.

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Vegeta123 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:46 pm

Whatever wrote:
Vegeta123 wrote:
Whatever wrote: Thats what all losers say but both dragonball and real life does not work that way.
Goku has always been stronger than Vegeta and he will continue to be so,in every saga by the end of it Goku was much stronger than him.
He is only there to job so we would be reminded how much better Goku is than him.

No matter how much you dream of it,Goku is always gonna be stronger and better than him and Vegeta is always gonna be just a side character, a midget always living in Goku's shadow nothing more.

Sorry but life is not that nice,you need to stop being delusional and accept this truth.
I would hate you more if you had that slug as your avatar, but stop with the nonsense.

Goku's personality is so naive and stupid. He's the main charracter so of course he will achieve greather strength.

But Vegeta has a tougher mentality......goku is a softie who isn't street smart. You'll see when the prince reclaims his honor as the strongest saiyan alive. You'll eat a buffet of crow.
So you do not like my avatar?Is it because Freeza killed Vegeta twice?Vegeta is the only person to have been killed by the same person twice and the person who killed him has made Vegeta his bitch his entire life no less.Thats quite a record.
Even the slug has accomplished more than Vegeta.He at the least killed Goku,something Vegeta could only dream of and yet always failling at doing so.

Also why do you hate me?What nonsense?Is it because i am telling you the truth?
Life is not that nice,you need to adapt and accept the truth as it is,not what you wish would happen.
Vegeta has a tougher mentality........yet always cries on how much better Goku is than him.
Vegeta has never been the strongest saiyan because in the end Goku was and will always be much better than him.

As for the topic Goku gets a new form because he is that much better than Vegeta in everything.Vegeta even says so in the buu saga.
There is no way you could compare the taller,stronger,,more dominant,handsome main character to the midget,weaker,submissive,uglier,jobber side character.
Both dragonball and real life are not that nice,Vegeta will always be weaker than the clearly more gifted and better Goku.
You cannot change that no matter how much you believe,it is what it is.
Freeza is a pathetic fool but he's a badass ill give him that. I'm more shocked why would you defend that green slug from the other thread?

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Re: Should Goku get a new form?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Aug 03, 2017 2:50 pm

Saturnine wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
emperior wrote:
I also feel like you. I would like the new form to be a permanent power-up that cancels every other form (bar base unless it doesn't bring any physical change).
I'm tired of seeing Goku always holding back by changing between his forms, so I'd like to see things go back to how they used to be in OG Dragon Ball. That's also how every character except for the Saiyans works.
RoF tried to simplify it with Goku and Vegeta, but for some reason Toriyama went back to the old forms.
Nothing ever implied the old forms were gone at all in Resurrection "F" not a single thing, it is another example of fans building self-expectations and making shit up in their heads when nothing really was there.
Well, Goku actually did say that once you've made the SSjG power your own, the SSj state of that is SSj Blue. So no one is making things up, it's Toriyama that went back on this perfectly serviceable evolution of the Saiyans because he realized he had made them too powerful and it would be hard to write compelling drama with them being so powerful.
That's not what he said. What Goku said: "This is a bit different. It’s tough to explain, but this is a Saiyan who’s a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God"
Nothing here implies that a Saiyan can't go Yellow SS forms again at all. Otherwise Goku going regular SS in BoG doesn't make sense at all.

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