BlueBasilisk wrote:My favorite part was seeing how much Roshi, Goku, and Krillin all still care for each other and that Roshi was inspired by his boys to better himself.
Nero<>Akira wrote:getting mad that Caulifla got SSJ and SSJ2 easily is like getting mad that someone that can lift 300 can easily master 350 when it took years for another person that started out much weaker than you were.
No, it's really not like that at all. Going from 300 to 350 is not that difficult depending on the lift. It'd be more comparable if someone say added 200 lbs each to their bench,deadlift, and squat in only a day before a weightlifting competition. Them already having Super Saiyan before we saw them would be better then them just attaining it 2 days after hearing about it. Not that it matters at this point, but it was obviously made that way to rush them ahead as fast as possible to SS2 so they can be relevant even when it makes little sense. I'm not mad about it either, but I'm not going to try to argue it makes any sort of sense when it was completely decided based on plot.
This is a saiyan that's stronger than Cabba when both in base who back in the U6 arc was equal to Vegeta after all that training Vegeta did. Vegeta and Goku were monsters then and they're more disgusting now. they're both easily above Fat Boo in just their base form. Probably SSJ3 levels from the Boo arc. I don't really take SSJ3 Gotenks vs Copy Vegeta seriously since it's an alien substance being able to access Vegeta's power in unknown ways. But let's take that into account anyway. Why get mad at a Saiyan that's that powerful from U6 getting a form like SS 1 and 2? lol
Zamasu is the best DB villain besides Freeza (and this is only the case because the current Super arc elevated Freeza to be that good).
Hugo Boss wrote:This episode pretty much confirmed what I have been thinking about Dragon Ball Super for a while. It is remembering me that Dragon Ball isn't all about going straightforward against your opponent and beating power with power. Despite the science-fiction involved and the ridiculous amount of power of its characters, it is trying to teach people that no matter how tough life is, you can beat it by joining other people (righteous people please), by thinking about a way to get around it, using your talents and you can surpass your own limits too!
I enjoyed that from this episode too, but we can't deny that ToP is showing to be more raw power > skill than the otherwise yet.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Since Roshi almost died and we see him sitting around still in the arena in the next Ep. preview...would it not be better to have him drop out and sit in the stands instead? He's totally vulnerable out there.
I didn't get a chance to write anything on this episode earlier so I'm doing it now. The fighting was alright but the Roshi near death scene was actually pretty touching. Goku rarely shows off raw emotion towards anyone anymore and is usually focused on fighting. But to see him trying to revive Roshi and then wipe away his tears when Roshi woke up was pretty sentimental. Nice touch by DBS writers.
The only thing I didn't like in this episode was the use of the capsule for the Mafuba. That's straight up cheating. The talismans were not cheating because they were created from the characters ki. The capsule used for the Mafuba was an outside object. I was hoping Roshi would disqualified for that. I like rules to be concrete and not flexible to the whims of the almighty Zeno. Otherwise the show loses credence to me. I see the Mafuba will be used again soon so that just makes me more upset
"Gohan, let it go. It is not a sin to fight for the right cause. There are those who words alone will not reach. Cell is such a being. I know how you feel Gohan, you are gentle, you do not like to hurt. I know because I too have learned these feelings. But it is because you cherish life that you must protect it. Please drop your restraints. Protect the life I once loved. You have the strength, my scanners sensed it..." -Android 16