"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Whatever » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:11 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Whatever wrote: So you are saying that Piccolo despite being more popular than Roshi,being there with Gohan somehow brought him down?

So if episode 106 has low ratings that means its Piccolo's fault despite Goku and Vegeta being there?
So piccolo having his 15 second fight in episode 103 is what gave it low ratings?Despite Piccolo vs Frost having good ratings?
Do i need to point out the flaw in what you said more than i or Hero already did?

Or are you gonna say that the reason episode 34 had good ratings is because of Frost?
Piccolo WAS popular, but in 2017, it looks like the japanese fans could care less about him, they buried him so much that its hard to get excited about Piccolo, the last straw was him being trolled in the U6 arc.

Goku and Vegeta might help the rating being above 4.5.

Piccolo vs Frost had good ratings due to the cliffhanger of episode 33, which was Goku being eliminated.

If Hero Academia beats DBS and or OP, someone is going to be the scapegoat
You still have not said anything that proves he is bringing the episodes rating down.
And i am pretty sure the kids that are watching are not as self aware of Piccolo's status as we are so thats irrelevant.
So you are saying if the next episode has good ratings then that because of Goku and Vegeta but if it has bad then its because of Piccolo.

I don't think you know how it works.

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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:12 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Thats true.

Take the saiyan girls for example, they are already popular among the japanese fans, also hyped in DBH ads. Most fans I've seen on the internet would rather have the saiyan girls get as much as focus as Goku because they are interesting and bring excitement to the franchise .
One Piece barely beat Super and most of everyone else's ratings were down as well. You overreact like this every single week. It's Summer, TV viewership is decreasing, Super remains in its 6th~7th place. It got 8th place this week because of the One Piece special.

You mean the Heroes' poll where the Masked Saiyajin ranked high? Because those characters are chosen due to their cards being useful or not.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:13 pm

Whatever wrote:
perucho1990 wrote:
Whatever wrote: So you are saying that Piccolo despite being more popular than Roshi,being there with Gohan somehow brought him down?

So if episode 106 has low ratings that means its Piccolo's fault despite Goku and Vegeta being there?
So piccolo having his 15 second fight in episode 103 is what gave it low ratings?Despite Piccolo vs Frost having good ratings?
Do i need to point out the flaw in what you said more than i or Hero already did?

Or are you gonna say that the reason episode 34 had good ratings is because of Frost?
Piccolo WAS popular, but in 2017, it looks like the japanese fans could care less about him, they buried him so much that its hard to get excited about Piccolo, the last straw was him being trolled in the U6 arc.

Goku and Vegeta might help the rating being above 4.5.

Piccolo vs Frost had good ratings due to the cliffhanger of episode 33, which was Goku being eliminated.

If Hero Academia beats DBS and or OP, someone is going to be the scapegoat
You still have not said anything that proves he is bringing the episodes rating down.
And i am pretty sure the kids that are watching are not as self aware of Piccolo's status as we are so thats irrelevant.
So you are saying if the next episode has good ratings then that because of Goku and Vegeta but if it has bad then its because of Piccolo.

I don't think you know how it works.
He doesn't like Piccolo is what I get from his posts.

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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:18 pm

alakazam^ wrote: One Piece barely beat Super and most of everyone else's ratings were down as well. You overreact like this every single week. It's Summer, TV viewership is decreasing, Super remains in its 6th~7th place. It got 8th place this week because of the One Piece special.

You mean the Heroes' poll where the Masked Saiyajin ranked high? Because those characters are chosen due to their cards being useful or not.
Last year around this month DBS was hitting 6s iirc.

The Heroes poll also had Hit in the top 10.


Whatever wrote: You still have not said anything that proves he is bringing the episodes rating down.
And i am pretty sure the kids that are watching are not as self aware of Piccolo's status as we are so thats irrelevant.
So you are saying if the next episode has good ratings then that because of Goku and Vegeta but if it has bad then its because of Piccolo.

I don't think you know how it works.
The episode when he was sparring with Gohan did a very low rating, but Piccolos isnt even a rating killer compared to Android 17, now he has been clearly proven that the japanese fans are mostly indifferent toward him, the moment he took the spotlight in DBS, ratings have gone deep south.

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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:44 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Last year around this month DBS was hitting 6s iirc.
August 28th 2016:

Sazae San: 8.6
Detective Conan: 7.9
Crayon Shin-chan: 7.5
Doraemon: 7.2
one piece: 7.0
Chibi Maruko-chan: 6.1
Dragon Ball Super(episode 56): 5.7
Shaun the Sheep: 3.8
Pokemon XY & Z T: 3.4
Curious George: 3.2
Witch Pretty Cure!:3.2

August 27th 2017:

Sazae: 8,4
One Piece Special: 8,1
Crayon Shin-chan: 7.9
Detective Conan: 6.3
Doraemon:: 6.2
One Piece: 4.8
Chibi Maruko-chan: 4.8
Dragon Ball Super: 4.6
Pokemon SM: 4,2
Curious George: 2.9

If you ignore the One Piece special, only Shin-chan got a 7.x% rating, most things didn't reach where they did last year.

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Post by Whatever » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:47 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
alakazam^ wrote: One Piece barely beat Super and most of everyone else's ratings were down as well. You overreact like this every single week. It's Summer, TV viewership is decreasing, Super remains in its 6th~7th place. It got 8th place this week because of the One Piece special.

You mean the Heroes' poll where the Masked Saiyajin ranked high? Because those characters are chosen due to their cards being useful or not.
Last year around this month DBS was hitting 6s iirc.

The Heroes poll also had Hit in the top 10.


Whatever wrote: You still have not said anything that proves he is bringing the episodes rating down.
And i am pretty sure the kids that are watching are not as self aware of Piccolo's status as we are so thats irrelevant.
So you are saying if the next episode has good ratings then that because of Goku and Vegeta but if it has bad then its because of Piccolo.

I don't think you know how it works.
The episode when he was sparring with Gohan did a very low rating, but Piccolos isnt even a rating killer compared to Android 17, now he has been clearly proven that the japanese fans are mostly indifferent toward him, the moment he took the spotlight in DBS, ratings have gone deep south.
I am just gonna point out the obvious and say that point does no hold true since in both episodes you mentioned the spotlight was not on him but Gohan,especially in the latter he had like 1 minute of screentime and leave at that.

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Post by kinisking » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:10 pm

Y'all still looking at percentages and thinking you know how the audience feels about the episode ? Really ?
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Post by Basako » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:15 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote: He doesn't like Piccolo is what I get from his posts.
Piccolo has been included in DB Z fighters among Krilin in no time. He is indisputable in the top favourites since always. When there's Piccolo and good ratings, he says it's for other reasons and if they're not good, because of him. Yeah, right.

As you said, he doesn't like Piccolo, that's pretty much it.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:20 pm

kinisking wrote:Y'all still looking at percentages and thinking you know how the audience feels about the episode ? Really ?
At this point, I just like to believe the fanbase is parodying itself... I have never been part of such a ridiculous fanbase in my life, sub vs dub, Kai dub vs Z that is all nothing compared to what I have witnessed since Super. I have been part of the problem too for sure especially at the start but then one day I came to stark realisation, I pray one day a majority of the fan base have a similar epiphany.

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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:22 pm

kinisking wrote:Y'all still looking at percentages and thinking you know how the audience feels about the episode ? Really ?
We need something to discuss with the upcoming break after this weeks episode. Next month is when things should become interesting, building up the upcoming Goku vs Jiren fight. I'm curious if another Universe will be eliminated before the TV special airs.

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Post by Kanassa » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:31 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I have never been part of such a ridiculous fanbase in my life
Nothing can beat the SHERLOCK fanbase, who were in such denial about their show producing bad episodes that they made an entire theory up on how those were fake episodes and that there'd be a secret episode that would prove the writers were just pretending to be shit.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by RedHeat » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:34 pm

Reminder that ratings don't mean as much as you think they do.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:43 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I have never been part of such a ridiculous fanbase in my life
Nothing can beat the SHERLOCK fanbase, who were in such denial about their show producing bad episodes that they made an entire theory up on how those were fake episodes and that there'd be a secret episode that would prove the writers were just pretending to be shit.
Lmao, that is certainly something... to be honest the way the fanbase is headed I wouldn't be surprised if we had some crap like that... :lol:

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Post by YonedgeHP » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:05 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: I have never been part of such a ridiculous fanbase in my life
Nothing can beat the SHERLOCK fanbase, who were in such denial about their show producing bad episodes that they made an entire theory up on how those were fake episodes and that there'd be a secret episode that would prove the writers were just pretending to be shit.
Or a big part of the Sonic fanbase that thinks Sonic Forces will be as bad as Sonic 2006 (considered by many to be one of the worst games in history), just because a character (Silver) appears in it.
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Post by pacz360 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:17 pm

RedHeat wrote:Reminder that ratings don't mean as much as you think they do.
I know but mind explaining

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Post by MainJPW » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:30 pm

YonedgeHP wrote: Or a big part of the Sonic fanbase that thinks Sonic Forces will be as bad as Sonic 2006 (considered by many to be one of the worst games in history), just because a character (Silver) appears in it.
Big Sonic fan here and tbh...I've never heard anyone say that, I have on the other hand seen strictly gameplay complaints such as the level design in Classic being bland compared to Mania or complaints about linearity in Modern gameplay.

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Post by perucho1990 » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:42 pm

Ken Xyro @KenXyro
Possible spoilers about new form:

It involves awakening the original "brutal and cruel" Saiyan genes.

Take this with a grain of salt.
If this becomes true, then it would be a good chance to explain SSJ Ikari or Berserker form, could be related to it.

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Post by Xeztin » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:51 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Ken Xyro @KenXyro
Possible spoilers about new form:

It involves awakening the original "brutal and cruel" Saiyan genes.

Take this with a grain of salt.
If this becomes true, then it would be a good chance to explain SSJ Ikari or Berserker form, could be related to it.
There is also a rumor about an elimination and [spoiler]Vegeta getting a new devlish form and tail? Vegeta eliminates Hit.[/spoiler]

Also about Kenxyro's statement would make sense, they did kinda for fore-shadow it with Vegeta saying that's possibly the original Super Saiyan or whatever referring to Kale.
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:52 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Ken Xyro @KenXyro
Possible spoilers about new form:

It involves awakening the original "brutal and cruel" Saiyan genes.

Take this with a grain of salt.
If this becomes true, then it would be a good chance to explain SSJ Ikari or Berserker form, could be related to it.
Well the eyes are kinda eerie, but they also remind me of a cat's eyes, so.
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Post by Sonicjamareiz » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:13 pm

MainJPW wrote:
YonedgeHP wrote: Or a big part of the Sonic fanbase that thinks Sonic Forces will be as bad as Sonic 2006 (considered by many to be one of the worst games in history), just because a character (Silver) appears in it.
Big Sonic fan here and tbh...I've never heard anyone say that, I have on the other hand seen strictly gameplay complaints such as the level design in Classic being bland compared to Mania or complaints about linearity in Modern gameplay.
I will never understand that complaint given that is never the case for HD Modern Sonic such as hidden paths, secret collectables and so on. The levels are made for replaying to check out what you missed that what I'm seeing from Forces.
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