namekiansaiyan wrote:Piccolo could face Jimeze but Piccolo vs Saonel and Pilina should happen at some point during this tournament.
Why? What does this fight bring to the table aside from the fact that it would be Namekian vs. Namekian?
There's a thousand and one things that a namekian vs. namekian battle could bring, not least of all a new form of power Piccolo might aim to reach later. It could be an inversion of U7 saiyans bringing ssj form to U6. It's a stretch but, hey, it could happen. All it needs is the writers being more daring and creative. I mean, we have the the whole Goku /Kale and Vegeta/Cabba comparisons, what's to say Piccolo won't get someone like that as well.
The most unpleasant direction this could go, is Piccolo fusing with one of them.
namekiansaiyan wrote:Piccolo could face Jimeze but Piccolo vs Saonel and Pilina should happen at some point during this tournament.
Why? What does this fight bring to the table aside from the fact that it would be Namekian vs. Namekian?
There's a thousand and one things that a namekian vs. namekian battle could bring, not least of all a new form of power Piccolo might aim to reach later. It could be an inversion of U7 saiyans bringing ssj form to U6. It's a stretch but, hey, it could happen. All it needs is the writers being more daring and creative. I mean, we have the the whole Goku /Kale and Vegeta/Cabba comparisons, what's to say Piccolo won't get someone like that as well.
The most unpleasant direction this could go, is Piccolo fusing with one of them.
Saonel is Piccolo so they have to meet. It makes 100% sense for the Namekians from Universe 6 to have something that Universe 7 don't just like the Saiyans. Toriyama was apart of Dragon Ball Online which introduced Red Eyed form so why not use it.
Piccolo fusing with them makes no sense at all and most importantly fans will hate it.
Michsi wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:
Michsi wrote:
The most unpleasant direction this could go, is Piccolo fusing with one of them.
Not a fan of that either..
The best outcome is him fusing with both of them
Piccolo becomes a one man assemblage, he starts having identity crises.
His multi-form should be him splitting into everyone he has fused with.
Michsi wrote:
The most unpleasant direction this could go, is Piccolo fusing with one of them.
Not a fan of that either..
The best outcome is him fusing with both of them
Piccolo becomes a one man assemblage, he starts having identity crises.
Piccolo starts hearing voices in his head...
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Ki Breaker wrote:
Not a fan of that either..
The best outcome is him fusing with both of them
Piccolo becomes a one man assemblage, he starts having identity crises.
Piccolo starts hearing voices in his head...
Pretty sure he already does.
Why power levels are important?
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Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Do anyone is thinking Freeza might have something up his sleeves? I mean that's the only reason I can figure why he's busting his chance of getting wish by clearlying betraying Universe 7
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:Do anyone is thinking Freeza might have something up his sleeves? I mean that's the only reason I can figure why he's busting his chance of getting wish by clearlying betraying Universe 7
I think him teaming up with Frost is a ruse. I have no idea what he'd hope to accomplish with this, though.
Noah wrote:Do anyone is thinking Freeza might have something up his sleeves? I mean that's the only reason I can figure why he's busting his chance of getting wish by clearlying betraying Universe 7
I think him teaming up with Frost is a ruse. I have no idea what he'd hope to accomplish with this, though.
I think that too and the NEP seems to imply that as well. They're trying to play each other, but I'm fairly certain Freeza is going to be the one that has the last laugh.
Freeza might be wary of Frost because he more or less sees himself in there and he also knows he can't be trusted..
It's best to shake hands with yourself here, especially when you are a lunatic, for all Freeza knows Frost might have golden too..
If that's how it's happening, I see frost and Freeza simultaneously backstabbing each other to take down the one opponent they aren't overconfident about..
Still, Freeza dosen't strike me as the guy who plans such intricacies though, he is the type to straight up go and murder who he dosen't like..
The Lord moves in mysterious ways but you don't have to. Please use your blinker
GodVegetto91 wrote:
Why is that? It's an infinitely better option than Vegeta of all people going out, if that's who you've been refering to.
It would be very predictable. I would much rather prefer someone like Gohan or Goku going out, but this is just my opinion.
If Toriyama was to go the standard boring way. It would go 18, 17, Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, Goku with Frieza going out at some random point or cpntinues to betray.
Will Goku actually still be in once his fight with Jiren is over though?
Who knows? We don't even know how long that fight will last either, or if the tournament will be stopped or interrupted for some reason before it can finish, or if Goku gets taken out by Jiren or immediately after his fight. We're in the dark right now.
namekiansaiyan wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Piccolo could face Jimeze but Piccolo vs Saonel and Pilina should happen at some point during this tournament.
Why? What does this fight bring to the table aside from the fact that it would be Namekian vs. Namekian?
Namekian lore which could give Piccolo a power boost in the future or just have a rivalry between them if the Saiyans can have it why not Namekians.
Kanassa wrote:
pacz360 wrote:
Given they been hidden for so long I don't piccolo biting it without meeting them first
People are already screaming piccolo biting it next just they did with vegeta
Piccolo ain't biting it yet
What does them being 'hidden' have to do with Piccolo having a certainty of facing them?
It doesn't mean he is facing them but do you actually think Piccolo is not going to interact with them especially as one looks exactly like he does.
Only Saiyans that had a rivalry were Goku and Vegeta. Sure a Namekian-Namekian rivalry could be cool, but that all depends on if they care to do that (and I personally don't think they do). Nobody but Goku in this series seems to get rivals.
Also, at the moment it's really just speculation (not unfounded mind you as Piccolo interacting with the Namekians makes sense), but nothing says he has to interact with the Namekians and that he, Saonel and Pilina are being saved for each other. Piccolo or the other Namekians very well could be eliminated by someone else without even meeting one another. Would that be ideal? Personally no, but that possibility exists.
BlueBasilisk wrote:This is the discussion thread. You know people discuss events here after the new episode airs.
Isn't that forbidden? I remember some moderators saying that we shouldn't discuss the episode here until the thread pops up.
Indeed. Discussion of specific episodes are supposed to be contained within the respective episode threads, but only after the subtitled versions are released via Crunchyroll, Daisuki, etc.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
BlueBasilisk wrote:
Why? What does this fight bring to the table aside from the fact that it would be Namekian vs. Namekian?
Namekian lore which could give Piccolo a power boost in the future or just have a rivalry between them if the Saiyans can have it why not Namekians.
Kanassa wrote:
What does them being 'hidden' have to do with Piccolo having a certainty of facing them?
It doesn't mean he is facing them but do you actually think Piccolo is not going to interact with them especially as one looks exactly like he does.
Only Saiyans that had a rivalry were Goku and Vegeta. Sure a Namekian-Namekian rivalry could be cool, but that all depends on if they care to do that (and I personally don't think they do). Nobody but Goku in this series seems to get rivals.
Also, at the moment it's really just speculation (not unfounded mind you as Piccolo interacting with the Namekians makes sense), but nothing says he has to interact with the Namekians and that he, Saonel and Pilina are being saved for each other. Piccolo or the other Namekians very well could be eliminated by someone else without even meeting one another. Would that be ideal? Personally no, but that possibility exists.
Would you be saying Vegeta and Goku would not meet the Universe 6 Saiyans if they were only being introduced now?
If Piccolo does not interact with the Namekians then I think Toriyama might need to have his head examined.
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Namekian lore which could give Piccolo a power boost in the future or just have a rivalry between them if the Saiyans can have it why not Namekians.
It doesn't mean he is facing them but do you actually think Piccolo is not going to interact with them especially as one looks exactly like he does.
Only Saiyans that had a rivalry were Goku and Vegeta. Sure a Namekian-Namekian rivalry could be cool, but that all depends on if they care to do that (and I personally don't think they do). Nobody but Goku in this series seems to get rivals.
Also, at the moment it's really just speculation (not unfounded mind you as Piccolo interacting with the Namekians makes sense), but nothing says he has to interact with the Namekians and that he, Saonel and Pilina are being saved for each other. Piccolo or the other Namekians very well could be eliminated by someone else without even meeting one another. Would that be ideal? Personally no, but that possibility exists.
Would you be saying Vegeta and Goku would not meet the Universe 6 Saiyans if they were only being introduced now?
If Piccolo does not interact with the Namekians then I think Toriyama might need to have his head examined.
Would I be saying two far more significant characters meet U6 versions of their race? U6 Saiyans who at the moment seem to be more important the U6 Namekians who haven't appeared yet. Them not appearing yet itself could mean a few things: They'll have some role later on in the ToP, they'll end up being insignificant all the same, they'll have major importance down the road, etc...
I'm not saying to curb your expectations or anything of the sort. But it's a fact that there's nothing concrete telling us that Piccolo and the U6 Namekians are being saved for one another, and at the moment nothing says they have to be for Piccolo.
BlueBasilisk wrote:This is the discussion thread. You know people discuss events here after the new episode airs.
Isn't that forbidden? I remember some moderators saying that we shouldn't discuss the episode here until the thread pops up.
Indeed. Discussion of specific episodes are supposed to be contained within the respective episode threads, but only after the subtitled versions are released via Crunchyroll, Daisuki, etc.
How about you locked this thread when the raw episode is out & unlocked it when the episode thread is out just to avoid people posting there raw reaction here
Noah wrote:
Isn't that forbidden? I remember some moderators saying that we shouldn't discuss the episode here until the thread pops up.
Indeed. Discussion of specific episodes are supposed to be contained within the respective episode threads, but only after the subtitled versions are released via Crunchyroll, Daisuki, etc.
How about you locked this thread when the raw episode is out & unlocked it when the episode thread is out just to avoid people posting there raw reaction here
I'm still wondering when the manga thread will get locked due to the same out of context knee-jerking from leaks that go the episode discussion threads locked. It hasn't been that bad the last two months but it got pretty ugly during the Future Trunks arc.
So, does anyone else think that maybe the reason there are two Namekians is so they'll do a tag team against either Androids 17 and 18 or even the two hidden bugs of U4? Or possibly even both?
Think about it, I'd rather have Piccolo face them, but it would be a more surprising fight to have 17 and 18 struggling against the two bugs only for the new Namekians to come in, use their hearing and eliminate the bugs before fighting the Androids.
The gr wrote:
How about you locked this thread when the raw episode is out & unlocked it when the episode thread is out just to avoid people posting there raw reaction here
I imagine people making separate threads to voice their initial thoughts if that were to happen. Someone will find another thread.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Indeed. Discussion of specific episodes are supposed to be contained within the respective episode threads, but only after the subtitled versions are released via Crunchyroll, Daisuki, etc.
How about you locked this thread when the raw episode is out & unlocked it when the episode thread is out just to avoid people posting there raw reaction here
I'm still wondering when the manga thread will get locked due to the same out of context knee-jerking from leaks that go the episode discussion threads locked. It hasn't been that bad the last two months but it got pretty ugly during the Future Trunks arc.
Is been pretty bad This Month with people thinking beerus is stomping every god and he is being wanked Which is the most childish term I've heard through that is not the case
Boo Machine wrote:[
I imagine people making separate threads to voice their initial thoughts if that were to happen. Someone will find another thread.
then what's the point of closing the episode thread if that happens, I just wish everyone waited for the episode thread
