Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Noah » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:20 pm

Probably has been asked before, but who are the people listed to work in the TV Special?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:32 pm

Noah wrote:Probably has been asked before, but who are the people listed to work in the TV Special?
Tsutomo Ono, Shuuichiro Manabe, Naoki Tate, Yoichi Onishi, Naotoshi Shida, Yuya Takahashi, and judging by the preview, it seems Tadayoshi Yamamuro is also there.

Guesses based on the preview so far include Atsushi Nikaido and Futoshi Higashide at the very least.

Considering Tu Yong-ce's talking about how it's gonna be packed with nice animation, I imagine he's also involved.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by JazzMazz » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:48 pm

Ajay wrote:
Noah wrote:Probably has been asked before, but who are the people listed to work in the TV Special?
Tsutomo Ono, Shuuichiro Manabe, Naoki Tate, Yoichi Onishi, Naotoshi Shida, Yuya Takahashi, and judging by the preview, it seems Tadayoshi Yamamuro is also there.

Guesses based on the preview so far include Atsushi Nikaido and Futoshi Higashide at the very least.

Considering Tu Yong-ce's talking about how it's gonna be packed with nice animation, I imagine he's also involved.

Should be a great episode!
Which parts do people believe were by Yamamuro? Some of the spirit bomb stuff looks like him imo.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:23 pm

JazzMazz wrote: Which parts do people believe were by Yamamuro? Some of the spirit bomb stuff looks like him imo.
[spoiler]Using dodgy wifi while on phone for reference .[/spoiler]
The transformation.

I think it's interesting that they haven't shown Shida or Takahashi, I'm guessing they are both in 110, which would mean that episode will be really awesome.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by PMD » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:11 am

I don't want to sound pessimistic, but It's very possible that Shida's contribution is just his cut from the opening. Don't get too hyped about him in this episode.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Cursemark505 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:59 am

PMD wrote:I don't want to sound pessimistic, but It's very possible that Shida's contribution is just his cut from the opening. Don't get too hyped about him in this episode.
That scene doesn't make sense with the context of the series considering:
1) They were flying

2) Jiren was struggling against ssjb Goku which we know is not possible.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:27 am

Odds Otsuka may pop up? What about Miuma too? His #66 was pretty good.
PMD wrote:I don't want to sound pessimistic, but It's very possible that Shida's contribution is just his cut from the opening. Don't get too hyped about him in this episode.
He already talked about his cut for the ToP a few months ago and he didn't know where it was going but now he confirmed he'll be joining the special, safe to assume it's not the OP cut.
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JazzMazz wrote: Which parts do people believe were by Yamamuro? Some of the spirit bomb stuff looks like him imo.
[spoiler]Using dodgy wifi while on phone for reference .[/spoiler]
The transformation.

I think it's interesting that they haven't shown Shida or Takahashi, I'm guessing they are both in 110, which would mean that episode will be really awesome.
They didn't show Shida in the Freeza episode NEP too, seems they aren't showing the best in these NEPs for this arc, like the second ToP episode they showed all the reused animation in the NEP and everyone was panicking and worrying.

At this point it's no coincidence I think it's definitely something the new directors are responsible for.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by BakaManiaHD » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:38 am

found this Dragon Ball (video game?) trailer on youtube, it uses the oldschool Z colors (with the modern Yamamuro designs)
It looks good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0iihhpRJS4
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:20 am

BakaManiaHD wrote:found this Dragon Ball (video game?) trailer on youtube, it uses the oldschool Z colors (with the modern Yamamuro designs)
It looks good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0iihhpRJS4
Oh my
the change of colors already does a lot, especially Vegeta
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by KameNinja45 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:54 pm

iAnimationLover_ wrote:
BakaManiaHD wrote:found this Dragon Ball (video game?) trailer on youtube, it uses the oldschool Z colors (with the modern Yamamuro designs)
It looks good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0iihhpRJS4
Oh my
the change of colors already does a lot, especially Vegeta
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Why can't they just use these colours, geez. It looks so much better than what we have now.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:53 pm

BakaManiaHD wrote:found this Dragon Ball (video game?) trailer on youtube, it uses the oldschool Z colors (with the modern Yamamuro designs)
It looks good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0iihhpRJS4
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by kidhero1000 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:07 pm

KameNinja45 wrote:
iAnimationLover_ wrote:
BakaManiaHD wrote:found this Dragon Ball (video game?) trailer on youtube, it uses the oldschool Z colors (with the modern Yamamuro designs)
It looks good!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0iihhpRJS4
Oh my
the change of colors already does a lot, especially Vegeta
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Why can't they just use these colours, geez. It looks so much better than what we have now.
Gotta modernize the series.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:58 am

I hate the way Yellow SS forms look in modern DB absolutely hate it, looks so disgusting.

Anyway speaking of colours what is everyone's favourite SSGSS colour?

Daylight aura less:
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Daylight with aura:
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Night time aura less:
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Night time with aura:
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Aura-less ToP filter:
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With Aura ToP filter:
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SSGSSKK:
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SSGSSKKx10:
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Gravity room:
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Stormy rain weather:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Special Shida shading and colour:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Yamamuro's designs for SSGSS seem very basic, so what are animators/colourists using as refrence for these colours, then?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Tugvow » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:40 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I hate the way Yellow SS forms look in modern DB absolutely hate it, looks so disgusting.

Anyway speaking of colours what is everyone's favourite SSGSS colour?

Daylight aura less:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Daylight with aura:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Night time aura less:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Night time with aura:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Aura-less ToP filter:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
With Aura ToP filter:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
SSGSSKK:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
SSGSSKKx10:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Gravity room:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Stormy rain weather:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Special Shida shading and colour:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Yamamuro's designs for SSGSS seem very basic, so what are animators/colourists using as refrence for these colours, then?
I think the top 4 are; nighttime aura-less, ssbkkx10, stormy rain weather, and gravity room, in that order.

The rest of the options are meh...
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Ajay » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:46 am

111 -
Writer: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director/Storyboard: Toshiaki Komura
Animation Supervisors: Chihiro Tanaka, Yasuhiro Namatame

112 -
Writer: Toshio Yoshitaka
Director: Takao Iwai
Storyboard: Naotoshi Shida
Animation Supervisor: Koji Nashizawa

113 -
Writer: Yoshifumi Fukushima
Director: Hideki Hiroshima
Storyboard: Takayuki Tanaka, Yoshitaka Yashima, Kazuya Karasawa
Animation Supervisors: Hirotaka Nii, Masahiro Shimanuki

114 -
Writer: Hiroshi Yamaguchi
Director/Storyboard: Masanori Sato
Animation Supervisor: Yuya Takahashi

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Next to Takahashi supervising which we knew thanks to him DMing a friend, the most interesting part of that list is gaining Komura as a director. He was Tiger Mask W's series director. We're in good hands~
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:09 am

Komura Toshi'aki storyboarded older episodes of the series, before Tiger Mask W, but now he's also directing his own board. Episode #113 looks like it's about to die. Three storyboard artists, yeesh.

Episode #114 is interesting. Satou Masanori has been MIA for a while now, so I'm surprised to see him returning after all this time. I figured he had moved on to another project.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:30 am

Oh ep 114 Yuya Takakashi's the animation supervisor and Hiroshi Yamaguchi as the writer... this'll be another hard wait.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:41 am

Komura was also SD of some of the PreCure series. He did good stuff there. His time at early DBS was dreadful though. Hopefully, his vision is executed well this time, but I don't have much confidence in the ADs he's paired with. We'll see though.

Satou is a very boring director. Still, looking forward to see Takahashi's first time supervision on the show. The rest doesn't look exciting, but that's understandable.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:13 am

Getting the Tiger Mask series director is cool, interested to see what he brings.
Karasawa and Itai aren't listed, hopefully they are paired with Nashizawa and Takahashi, but then again Kitano might be with one of them....
Takahashi showing up 4 weeks after the special is weird, hopefully that just means he's been working on the episode for a few weeks and finished his animation on the special a few weeks ago as well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 100

Post by PMD » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:12 pm

A Shida storyboarded episode again! Yaay! Sadly is with meh animators like Nashikawa (and probably Año Nuevo and Calagan)

I didn't expect Takahashi to supervise an episode so soon. Looking forward to it.

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Regarding Tugvow question, I'm not crazy with SSJ Blue design and colours. I'm yet to see an impressive shot of that form. I think it always gets terrible animation at the moment Goku or Vegeta transforms into it.

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