"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ki Breaker]

Question: seeing as how most don't want the U6 saiyans just going through transformations so easily, wouldn't you all rather have a fusion instead of Kale and Cauli clearing power levels like crazy?

It's not like they haven't sped through multiple forms already, it's not fusion or a new form, it's Fusion and new forms, many many forms..
It's basically choose your poison..
How can they even hope to learn the dance perfectly in minutes is beyond me, turns out Goten and trunks are just not good enough, it took them so much training simply to get the posture right..

I would rather have them fuse via potara or them already knowing the dance ( which is also bullshit ) be a thing..

[SirTorra]

A fusion between Kale and caulifla should be above ssb level. I'm intrigued on how this will play out.

[sintzu]

Question: seeing as how most don't want the U6 saiyans just going through transformations so easily, wouldn't you all rather have a fusion instead of Kale and Cauli clearing power levels like crazy?

It's more or less choose your poison..
How can they even hope to learn the dance perfectly in minutes is beyond me, turns out Goten and trunks are just not good enough, it took them so much training simply to get the posture right..

I would rather have them fuse via potara or them already knowing the dance ( which is also bullshit ) be a thing..

They're so good they can fuse without the dance.

[namekiansaiyan]

We are going to have 3 episodes of these crap. The only good thing about these episode will be the 20 seconds scenes of Toppo vs Vegeta along with Piccolo and Gohan vs Saonel and Pilina. Hopefully 17 and 18 start a fight as well.

Frieza can't you just eliminate Kale and Caulifla now?

I am more or less adapting to this now, it's pretty clear these two are here to stay whether we like it or not..
Besides, a friend of mine was pretty confident the namekians are going to be the super warrior, I am more interested in hearing what he thinks of this now

Episode 115 is their last episode Goku will get his power back and beat them up.

You speak about the Namekians and couldn't they also do the fusion dance or use the earrings?

If no one could get rid of them separately then chances are they'll be here till the end.

I guess the only way to make a worse character is to have the worst fuse together.

Like I said before, the only good to come from them is making what people didn't like about the buu arc look like gold.

Episode 115 is it for them as they are not getting 3 episodes and still being in. The fusion will run out very quick probably and Frieza will finish them.

[Draconic]

Huh, pretty interesting turn of events. Seeing as I like both of them very much, I kinda hoped for more screentime for them separately, especially Kale in her controlled form. I guess there's still two more episodes until then, so I might get my fix. This is probably what Cabba meant when saying those two are U6's last hope.

Also, with Hit out, U6 was in dire need of a powerhouse, since every remaining top fighter is either U7 or U11.

Hahaha, oh Super. Run away with it, you little scamps.

This is sure to blow up the internet for a bit, but remember when we learned Freeza would be replacing Buu and it looked like the shark jumping moment? How wrong we were.

Will this fusion be able to use Kale's Berserk form? That would actually make her pretty formidable. Potentially able to challenge Jiren even.

If Caulifla does get Super Saiyan 3, when might even get Berserk Super Saiyan 3 Kalefla. Anyway, it's probably going to be a formidable opponent. If Berserk Kale was enough to catch Jiren's attention, this might prompt him back into action even. Either that, or what will get Goku back into Ultra Instinct.

[Michsi]

Question: seeing as how most don't want the U6 saiyans just going through transformations so easily, wouldn't you all rather have a fusion instead of Kale and Cauli clearing power levels like crazy?

We didn't want her getting ssj3 but now she's fusing and that fusion will most likely get ssj3.

Yeah, but isn't it easier to accept a fusion reaching SSJ3 than Caulifla and/or Kale on their own? We know fusions are powerful, this at least helps make more sense.

How can they even hope to learn the dance perfectly in minutes is beyond me, turns out Goten and trunks are just not good enough, it took them so much training simply to get the posture right..

Piccolo was able to do the dance with Goku perfectly after seeing it just once, so you'd think other seasoned warriors might be able to do it as well. Trunks and Goten were kids, with zero battle experience and a very evident lack of discipline, but Cauli and Kale are adults. I mean, you can find an explanation.

[Ki Breaker]

How can they even hope to learn the dance perfectly in minutes is beyond me, turns out Goten and trunks are just not good enough, it took them so much training simply to get the posture right..

Piccolo was able to do the dance with Goku perfectly after seeing it just once, so you'd think other seasoned warriors might be able to do it as well. Trunks and Goten were kids, with zero battle experience and a very evident lack of discipline, but Cauli and Kale are adults. I mean, you can find an explanation.

The problem isn't how it's done, the problem is doing it yourself..
The main issue with fusion lies in both being in perfect sync and power level..
Screw that up and screw everything up..

Piccolo saw how to do it, he simply understood to pose and the idea behind it, any normal human can understand that, we did too as the audience didn't we?
I interpret that scene as more or less as Piccolo simply showing what they should aim for instead of doing it perfectly himself..

[sintzu]

Question: seeing as how most don't want the U6 saiyans just going through transformations so easily, wouldn't you all rather have a fusion instead of Kale and Cauli clearing power levels like crazy?

We didn't want her getting ssj3 but now she's fusing and that fusion will most likely get ssj3.

Yeah, but isn't it easier to accept a fusion reaching SSJ3 than Caulifla and/or Kale on their own? We know fusions are powerful, this at least helps make more sense.

How can they even hope to learn the dance perfectly in minutes is beyond me, turns out Goten and trunks are just not good enough, it took them so much training simply to get the posture right..

Piccolo was able to do the dance with Goku perfectly after seeing it just once, so you'd think other seasoned warriors might be able to do it as well. Trunks and Goten were kids, with zero battle experience and a very evident lack of discipline, but Cauli and Kale are adults. I mean, you can find an explanation.

Piccolo just did the pose which isn't hard, the dance is another matter.

A fused ssj3 is still a leap because it took gotenks 2 weeks to reach. It's such a shame that so much time is being wasted on these 2 while others are getting pushed to the side.

[Michsi]

Piccolo saw how to do it, he simply understood to pose and the idea behind it, any normal human can understand that, we did too as the audience didn't we?
I interpret that scene as more or less as Piccolo simply showing what they should aim for instead of doing it perfectly himself..

The technique is the dance, and that both participants have to be in sync to perfection. The whole point of that demonstration was to show the kids what "synchronization" meant, they understood the moves alone just fine. We have no way of checking the accuracy since Goku and Piccolo can't fuse, but I'd say had Piccolo done it wrong, Goku would've said something.

Piccolo just did the pose which isn't hard, the dance is another matter.

He did the whole dance, not just the final pose.

[dbzfan7]

Gonna wait before I decide to flip out. I mean I'm alright with Cauliflowa and not really a fan of Kale beyond something to laugh at, but ugh...not a fan if that becomes episode 115.

[Xeogran]

What if we always had it in front of us?

What if the girl in the OP was not Kale, but actually Kafla? Her angry expression, and it looks like she has two bangs there.. Unless they revamped Kale's personality and design, the opening might have been spoiling that fusion the whole time

[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Totamo]

Oh no, oh no oh no no no no oh no oh no.


Can you imagine the anger this is going to create?

heck, people are already mad.



If you thought the hate was unreasonable for the saiyan girls, you ain't seen nothing yet. This took Goten and trunkls, the two saiyans who bsed transformations a year to learn with one mistake dooming them, these 2 will get it in one shot?! Because they have to.

Hit lost for this, cabba lost for this.



I should wait, i should wait but it sounds like the dumbest thing super has done!!!


And she will get ss3, won't she?

[SansrivaaL]

And she will get ss3, won't she?

113/114-SSj3
115-Fusion
116-SSJRage
117-UI
118-New form.
Seems about right.

[sintzu]

Oh no, oh no oh no no no no oh no oh no.


Can you imagine the anger this is going to create?

heck, people are already mad.



If you thought the hate was unreasonable for the saiyan girls, you ain't seen nothing yet. This took Goten and trunkls, the two saiyans who bsed transformations a year to learn with one mistake dooming them, these 2 will get it in one shot?! Because they have to.

Hit lost for this, cabba lost for this.



I should wait, i should wait but it sounds like the dumbest thing super has done!!!


And she will get ss3, won't she?

It's the dumbest thing they've done so far, trust me they'll find something worse in the future.

[namekiansaiyan]

Are any of you actually excited about Goku vs this fusion?

I really can't get excited when we have Toppo vs Vegeta along with Piccolo and Gohan vs Soanel and Pilina happening in the background of this fight.

[sintzu]

Are any of you actually excited about Goku vs this fusion?.

I'm not. So far these 2 have been the worst thing introduced in the franchise. Out of all the things to let those fights play 2nd to, it had to be this.

I really hope the manga can find away around them.

[SansrivaaL]

Are any of you actually excited about Goku vs this fusion?

I do in a way, but it has more to do with Cauli being gone and hoping their fusion is at the very least tolerable than they are individually and also it makes it easier to throw both of them out now since they're stuck in one body.

[Kanassa]

Why are you all assuming they're gonna do the fusion dance? All Goku has to do is mention the idea of fusion and Zeno will be yelling for somone to get them potara earrings, because one hour is cooler than 30 minutes..

[namekiansaiyan]

Are any of you actually excited about Goku vs this fusion?.

I'm not. So far these 2 have been the worst thing introduced in the franchise. Out of all the things to let those fights play 2nd to, it had to be this.

I really hope the manga can find away around them.

The only good thing we can take from this is that the fights I mentioned are going to get the focus after this Goku fight. They will probably end up being much more intense and close fights and that is why they are probably being saved.

Are any of you actually excited about Goku vs this fusion?

I do in a way, but it has more to do with Cauli being gone and hoping their fusion is at the very least tolerable than they are individually and also it makes it easier to throw both of them out now since they're stuck in one body.

I just can't believe they are focusing 3 episodes on this when we have much more exciting things going on.

[Totamo]

Joking aside, We should wait, maybe this will be good. toshio is the writer of the episode.