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Post by Humpski » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:17 am

kaioken12 wrote:As for unlocking characters:
Imho they should have made use of the disc fusion system and just look for old saves and if these are found, just unlock everything that was already unlocked in the previous games.
The characters from the last game are all unlocked by default (Except the SSJ4's). All you have to unlock in this new game are the new characters and some songs and characters.


Here's replay mode. Looks like all it does is take away the HUD. Oh well, this is a pretty cool fight in any case.
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Post by Casual Matt » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:30 am

Thanos6 wrote:Ending credits! They went OLD-SCHOOL with this.

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw2UY6DIgzw
Okay, that's amazing.

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Post by Adey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:01 am

Smooth Criminal wrote:Well, I've received my order and after several hours of play...... I'm not impressed. Yet.

I'm sure I'll enjoy the new characters/costumes, but man is it a bitch unlocking them.

It feels like I'm doing the SAME exact thing that I've done two other times now. (In regards to the story mode)

They said that there would be a vastly restructured story mode, but, it really isn't. Man, it is such a chore ... I really wish I could just import everything over from BT2 and unlock the new stuff from there.

Gameplay itself has been tweaked minimally. They said that they had made some improvements to the gameplay to promote more variety, but... That's not really true. There are a few, slight additions that won't really make that much of a difference in the heat of battle. The game is still very much about using mostly power blasts to win battles.

Interface is really cool, much like BT2. I love the loading screens and other little touches.

On the whole, I'm gonna go ahead and say that this feels like BT2+. Perhaps it should've even be released as an expansion game.

What are you talking about?
The story mode is restructured enough, and only takes a few hours to complete, you can blaze through the sagas, no part of it is a chore at all. Instead of fighting every little scuffle like Z fighters vs Saibamen, you don't even have Gohan vs Buu or even Gotenks vs Buu, or Piccolo vs 17, you name it it probably isn't in the story mode unless it's a key and crucial fight.

All BT2 characters minus SSJ4 are unlocked, and considering blasts do less damage now unless charged up to the maximum and hit an open opponent, this means battle is more melee oriented.

Don't cast negative aspersions over it for people who are looking forward to this when you're not even correct.

(I got to play it again today, and I noticed there is also unlockable music, but what really caught my eye was the fact that you can unlock "Romantikku Ageru yo" to fight to. Seriously.)

Edit : Forgot to say, all costumes are pre-unlocked also.

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Post by Xyex » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:10 am

you don't even have Gohan vs Buu or even Gotenks vs Buu, or Piccolo vs 17, you name it it probably isn't in the story mode unless it's a key and crucial fight.
Wait, what? Those fights aren't in the story mode? Seriously? WTF? It sounds like story mode this time around is going to completely blow. :?
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Post by Adey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:46 am

Xyex wrote:
you don't even have Gohan vs Buu or even Gotenks vs Buu, or Piccolo vs 17, you name it it probably isn't in the story mode unless it's a key and crucial fight.
Wait, what? Those fights aren't in the story mode? Seriously? WTF? It sounds like story mode this time around is going to completely blow. :?
I think it's for the people who don't want to trudge through the same old story again and again, and I might be right in thinking that this is something Mike would appreciate, I personally think it's pretty damn cool.

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Post by kaioken12 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:59 am

Adey wrote:
Xyex wrote:
you don't even have Gohan vs Buu or even Gotenks vs Buu, or Piccolo vs 17, you name it it probably isn't in the story mode unless it's a key and crucial fight.
Wait, what? Those fights aren't in the story mode? Seriously? WTF? It sounds like story mode this time around is going to completely blow. :?
I think it's for the people who don't want to trudge through the same old story again and again, and I might be right in thinking that this is something Mike would appreciate, I personally think it's pretty damn cool.
I prefer it that way as I already played the story enough times (and to be honest, I liked Budokai 1's way the best of all B1-3 and BT1-2).

Hm, what gets me to the thought: couldn't they have made it like in Budokai 1?
If I remember correctly I played the story and after that there were "new levels" with other fights than Goku's.

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Post by Adey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:03 am

As far as I've been told, I think there are what if's that pop up after you beat everything else, one involves Freeza coming to earth but finding Akkuman instead of Goku, who kills Freeza with his evil beam thing.


I like Budokai 1's story mode, but there's not much difference seeing the story played out in a 3D cutscene than there is in the anime itself, but 3D cutscenes are pretty much vastly superior to what the BT series has been doing so far if you ask me.

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Post by Demi » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:10 am

Xyex wrote:
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kvon wrote:I'm not going to even thank the ones who's been showing gameplay videos with glitched and skipped audio because chances are, they're playing the bootleg. SHIT!
Burned copies of games run just as perfectly as the originals actually.
Only if you're very lucky. I've never had any burned games myself but I've seen plenty of disscusion over glitches that occur only in downloaded and burned copies of games. Some of which are gamekillers.
Luck has nothing to do with it, i've backed up lots of my PS2 games and copyed them onto a disk, they always run perfectly. You must of been talking to people who don't know what they're doing.

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Post by ReiMehari » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:02 am

Adey wrote:
Smooth Criminal wrote:Well, I've received my order and after several hours of play...... I'm not impressed. Yet.

I'm sure I'll enjoy the new characters/costumes, but man is it a bitch unlocking them.

It feels like I'm doing the SAME exact thing that I've done two other times now. (In regards to the story mode)

They said that there would be a vastly restructured story mode, but, it really isn't. Man, it is such a chore ... I really wish I could just import everything over from BT2 and unlock the new stuff from there.

Gameplay itself has been tweaked minimally. They said that they had made some improvements to the gameplay to promote more variety, but... That's not really true. There are a few, slight additions that won't really make that much of a difference in the heat of battle. The game is still very much about using mostly power blasts to win battles.

Interface is really cool, much like BT2. I love the loading screens and other little touches.

On the whole, I'm gonna go ahead and say that this feels like BT2+. Perhaps it should've even be released as an expansion game.

What are you talking about?
The story mode is restructured enough, and only takes a few hours to complete, you can blaze through the sagas, no part of it is a chore at all. Instead of fighting every little scuffle like Z fighters vs Saibamen, you don't even have Gohan vs Buu or even Gotenks vs Buu, or Piccolo vs 17, you name it it probably isn't in the story mode unless it's a key and crucial fight.

All BT2 characters minus SSJ4 are unlocked, and considering blasts do less damage now unless charged up to the maximum and hit an open opponent, this means battle is more melee oriented.

Don't cast negative aspersions over it for people who are looking forward to this when you're not even correct.

(I got to play it again today, and I noticed there is also unlockable music, but what really caught my eye was the fact that you can unlock "Romantikku Ageru yo" to fight to. Seriously.)

Edit : Forgot to say, all costumes are pre-unlocked also.
Those fights aren't in? That's....dissappointing. At least for me...I wanted my experience with story mode to last even longer than the last game.
It's strange this hero thing. Whole lives devoted completely to helping others. For no financial reward whatsoever. Struggling ceaselessly against impossible odds, risking almost certain death to help those in trouble. I...I just hope its not catching, yes?

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Post by Xyex » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:03 am

kaioken12 wrote:I prefer it that way as I already played the story enough times (and to be honest, I liked Budokai 1's way the best of all B1-3 and BT1-2).

Hm, what gets me to the thought: couldn't they have made it like in Budokai 1?
If I remember correctly I played the story and after that there were "new levels" with other fights than Goku's.
Well, admittedly I found there to be way too many battles in BT2 but that was only because they were all required. They could have done it the B1 way with only certain battles the first time and all the rest unlocked after beating the game. Or they could have done it similar to BT1 where you would have a choice of different battles at certain points. Or a number of other ways. But this way? Seriously, What. The. Fuck.

Leaving out Piccolo Vs. 17 (the best fight in the entire damn series and a rather important one as it led Cell to 17's location, is beyond dumb. Leaving out the Gotenks and Mystic Gohan Vs. Super Buu fights are equally dumb. Gotenks because that fight is just cool and Mystic Gohan because without that fight there would have been no reason for Super Buu to absorb Piccolo and Gotenks.

If I could choose between a shitty story mode that left out a bunch of the story or the way of BT2 I'd take BT2. Yes, there were too many fights in BT2 that were required that shouldn't have been (18 Vs. Hercule, for example) but at least it had all of the important fights. This one's already missing 3 of them.

Hell, with them thinking this was a good idea I wouldn't be suprised if BT4 (if it ever happens) only had 5 fights in story mode. King Piccolo, Freeza, Cell, Kid Buu, and Omega Shenron. -_-
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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
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Post by Gaiash » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:18 am

HyperBlaze wrote:And I'm sick of folk (like you) who "claim" to be sick of a game and continue to post topics on a board about the game like a DUMB mouth to a flame.
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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.

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Post by Adey » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:33 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Gaiash wrote:
HyperBlaze wrote:And I'm sick of folk (like you) who "claim" to be sick of a game and continue to post topics on a board about the game like a DUMB mouth to a flame.
Then DaizenshuuEX is not the place for you.
Or pretty much any message board on the internet for that matter.

And BTW, regarding the whole "story mode" thing:

Am I the only gamer left these days who actually has real life friends to play fighting games with? Once upon a time, the meat and potatoes of any fighting game was how well it stacked up in 2P vs competition. Shit like single player story modes is totally inconsequential me thinks.

This is DBZ not Final Fantasy. You want an immersive single player experience with an in depth storyline and breathtaking cinematics, play RPGs or the Metal Gear series.

This game is totally a party game.
I agree 100%, the fact that the story mode in this game is so short (short does not equal bad, for me it's good), makes it easier to get to where the real fun is, all characters and stages unlocked, and being able to have a blast on 2 player.

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Post by ReiMehari » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:37 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:
Gaiash wrote:
HyperBlaze wrote:And I'm sick of folk (like you) who "claim" to be sick of a game and continue to post topics on a board about the game like a DUMB mouth to a flame.
Then DaizenshuuEX is not the place for you.
Or pretty much any message board on the internet for that matter.

And BTW, regarding the whole "story mode" thing:

Am I the only gamer left these days who actually has real life friends to play fighting games with? Once upon a time, the meat and potatoes of any fighting game was how well it stacked up in 2P vs competition. Shit like single player story modes is totally inconsequential me thinks.

This is DBZ not Final Fantasy. You want an immersive single player experience with an in depth storyline and breathtaking cinematics, play RPGs or the Metal Gear series.

This game is totally a party game.
Yeah....about that....

Do you know how many other girls will actually touch a game like this around here? Sadly I'm the only one so far.... Ah well. Guess it's off to brother's and his friend's again....
It's strange this hero thing. Whole lives devoted completely to helping others. For no financial reward whatsoever. Struggling ceaselessly against impossible odds, risking almost certain death to help those in trouble. I...I just hope its not catching, yes?

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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.

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Post by caejones » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:47 am

Meep, I agreeeth that multi-player is more important to how enjoyable the game is.
I mean, Let's look at Super Butoten 3... whereas both of the prequels had storymodes (and the second was rather complex...), it doesn't even have anything... seems kind of... weak, really (there was a lot they could have put in there), but whatever... I like Goku and Vegeta's ultra special hard-as attacks, and the grappling system turned out more interesting than before, and there were some programming improvements, such as the super blasts not taking ages to transition into and out of... .
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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:It grinds my gears that people get "outraged" over any of this stuff. It's a fucking cartoon. If you are that determined to be angry about something, get off the internet and make a stand for something that actually matters.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.

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Post by Gaiash » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:54 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:
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HyperBlaze wrote:And I'm sick of folk (like you) who "claim" to be sick of a game and continue to post topics on a board about the game like a DUMB mouth to a flame.
Then DaizenshuuEX is not the place for you.
Or pretty much any message board on the internet for that matter.
I was going to say that, but I've seen forums where people enforce rules based on there opinion. I'm a member of a forum where the admin doesn't like fanfiction and as such doesn't allow fanfiction or fanfic ideas on the forum. So I'm sure there is an opinion where if you don't like something about a game you can't post it.
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