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A lot of people are indeed tsundere about Super.RedHeat wrote: Unfortunately, a lot people hate-watch the show.
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A lot of people are indeed tsundere about Super.RedHeat wrote: Unfortunately, a lot people hate-watch the show.
Dragon Ball is in Japan as Star Wars is in the US. Both are still popular after 3-4 decades.FortuneSSJ wrote:Forget beating One Piece, if Dragon Ball beats Gundam that will be the real milestone!![]()
I actually think they are slowly replacing Goten and Trunks with the U6 Trio. First off U6 saiyans are saiyans with high potential who can go ssj with ease just like the boys. Goku and Vegeta are training everybody but their sons, especially the 3 U6 saiyans. And now [spoiler]with Kafla being announced as most likely a fusion of Caulifla and Kale, its like that its replacing Gotenks.[/spoiler] It might become more evident by the end of the U6 Sadala sagaLi'l Lemmy wrote:Oh, I'm not opposed to it going on with Goku. It's still Goku's story. But some heavier involvement from the aforementioned characters would be nice, and fitting given the context EoZ was meaning to convey.
Having any one of them individually shoulder the burden of MC, no. Probably not. None of them have the needed development. But if it were me, the focus should at least begin shifting toward them, or being more inclusive of them, under Goku and Vegeta.
And it didnt kill Star Wars getting rid of Vader and Luke Skywalker as Main Characters.Faisal Shourov wrote:Dragon Ball is in Japan as Star Wars is in the US. Both are still popular after 3-4 decades.FortuneSSJ wrote:Forget beating One Piece, if Dragon Ball beats Gundam that will be the real milestone!![]()
In the case of Star Wars it had no choice but to eventually replaced Vader and Luke Skywalker, since one Vader was the villain who usually dies in the story even if redeemed, and Star Wars uses live actors who will eventually die. So even if they wanted to, they could never used Luke forever. Goku can go on forever even after his original VA dies, as with the case with many fiction characters made in ink.perucho1990 wrote:
And it didnt kill Star Wars getting rid of Vader and Luke Skywalker as Main Characters.
DB should do what Star Wars is currently doing, focusing in a new generation guy with the former Main Character becoming that characters Sensei.
If we ever get Planet Sadala Arc, then they should have Caulifla and Goku in the same roles as Rey and Luke Skywalker.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Toriyama dabbled, didn't like where the story went, and abandoned it, just like he did with Gohan being a MC. If anything, Roshi said the opposite of 'retire' since his whole speech was 'it's too soon to tell me where my limits are'.precita wrote:Because that's what Toriyama already did. Of course Trunks and Goten are going to do something eventually in Super, they're likely just waiting for the EOZ timeskip.
Most likely Roshi, Tien, Krillin and maybe even the Androids will be "retired" after this arc. It paves the way for new main characters like Trunks and Goten.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
They better fucking not. I hint a lot that I'm prepared to drop DragonBall as a whole, but I'm never really able to push through because of the history I have with it. But I would if the story actively moved to fully replace sons of Goku and Vegeta with newbies from another universe.AnimeNation101 wrote:I actually think they are slowly replacing Goten and Trunks with the U6 Trio. First off U6 saiyans are saiyans with high potential who can go ssj with ease just like the boys. Goku and Vegeta are training everybody but their sons, especially the 3 U6 saiyans. And now [spoiler]with Kafla being announced as most likely a fusion of Caulifla and Kale, its like that its replacing Gotenks.[/spoiler] It might become more evident by the end of the U6 Sadala sagaLi'l Lemmy wrote:Oh, I'm not opposed to it going on with Goku. It's still Goku's story. But some heavier involvement from the aforementioned characters would be nice, and fitting given the context EoZ was meaning to convey.
Having any one of them individually shoulder the burden of MC, no. Probably not. None of them have the needed development. But if it were me, the focus should at least begin shifting toward them, or being more inclusive of them, under Goku and Vegeta.
The NUMBER ONE Goten fan, and a fucking epic one at that.Goten of Japan wrote:Don't go 9... Go 10! (Go-ten. Goten. Get it? DOOD.)
The NUMBER ONE Goten fan, and a fucking epic one at that.Goten of Japan wrote:Don't go 9... Go 10! (Go-ten. Goten. Get it? DOOD.)
Toriyama decide if he wants to used Goten and Trunks in his story. The best Toei can do is give them a side-story between arcs.Li'l Lemmy wrote:I don't either. I just think they should be included more.
C'mon, Toei. They're saiyans. Find a way to profit off them.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
And when he did it he switched back to Goku cause to him, Gohan couldn't replace him. If someone as established and developed as Gohan couldn't, why will these nobodies be able to ?precita wrote:Because that's what Toriyama already did.
I think people also need to take into consideration that Gohan was a vastly different character when he was made protagonist and some people might have been put off by his new-found geeky-ness and eccentric behavior as teenager. The western fans absolutely hated the Saiyaman bit, and while I don't think Japanese fans disliked it as much, it's possible it was also not that well received over there. I can't remember where exactly I read this, but apparently Gohan beat Goku in popularity in one or two polls during the original run, but only while he was a kid.sintzu wrote:And when he did it he switched back to Goku cause to him, Gohan couldn't replace him. If someone as established and developed as Gohan couldn't, why will these nobodies be able to ?precita wrote:Because that's what Toriyama already did.
What? Sadala saga has been announced?!AnimeNation101 wrote:
It might become more evident by the end of the U6 Sadala saga
Sorry i guess i kinda lead you on. I said thus because I'm 90 percent sure that the Sadala arc will be right after the tournament either as a mini arc or as a regular arc.sangofe wrote:What? Sadala saga has been announced?!AnimeNation101 wrote:
It might become more evident by the end of the U6 Sadala saga
First off, there have been no hints to another tournament with the other 4 universe and frankly, i think they should stray away from Tournaments and start focusing on adventure arcs, mystery arcs kinda like the Black and Trunks arc, and arcs with an actually evil antagonistprecita wrote:I predict Trunks, Goten and Uub will be involved in the next tournament with the last 4 universes. If they do a 10 man team again Freeza will most likely be gone or dead again, and I don't see Tien, Roshi or Krillin in the next one. I'm not sure if the Androids will be back either, who knows.
It's funny that Goku training Uub at the end of DBZ now makes sense if he wants another strong fighter for the next tournament with the 4 strongest universes. If Uub already has Kid Buu's strength he'd be a monster after 4 months of training ala Freeza...lol.
I hope there will be but we never know.AnimeNation101 wrote:Sorry i guess i kinda lead you on. I said thus because I'm 90 percent sure that the Sadala arc will be right after the tournament either as a mini arc or as a regular arc.sangofe wrote:What? Sadala saga has been announced?!AnimeNation101 wrote:
It might become more evident by the end of the U6 Sadala saga
We’ll have to wait til Jump Festa from December 15 to December 17