"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Noah]

So she can control her Berserker form now? when did she learn to do that? did I miss an episode?

It's not her 'Berserker' form but her regular Super Saiyan form, just like Broly who can use either SSJ or LSSJ.

[BrolyKale]

So she can control her Berserker form now? when did she learn to do that? did I miss an episode?

It's not her 'Berserker' form but her regular Super Saiyan form, just like Broly who can use either SSJ or LSSJ.

Caulifla said that she could control her Berserker form as well... I don't know how, but she can.

here https://youtu.be/AJ4HHuYvFE0?t=163

[alakazam^]

Piccolo and.. Pilaf? or Krillin and Piccolo?

It's Kuririn and Piccolo.

Why? It's just a videogame having fun with the material.

It's just people complaining for the sake of it, nothing new. Their loss though, the game's pretty fun. Apparently, fusing is such a big no-no for some reason (no argument is ever given, of course) but, actually, not thinking about fusion is what would be strange. If a group of people know about such techniques, why wouldn't they consider them if the time is right?

[namekiansaiyan]

Piccolo and.. Pilaf? or Krillin and Piccolo?

It's Kuririn and Piccolo.

Why? It's just a videogame having fun with the material.

It's just people complaining for the sake of it, nothing new. Their loss though, the game's pretty fun. Apparently, fusing is such a big no-no for some reason (no argument is ever given, of course) but, actually, not thinking about fusion is what would be strange. If a group of people know about such techniques, why wouldn't they consider them if the time is right?

I prefer characters being their own person and working with others instead of joining together to create some new character. It is also the easy option to get out of a tough situation.

[alakazam^]

I prefer characters being their own person and working with others instead of joining together to create some new character. It is also the easy option to get out of a tough situation.

Fusing never solved anything, though. Goku and Vegeeta don't even rely on it so having that option isn't that bad.

[Nero<>Akira]

Off topic. Went to youtube and watched from when Goku and Vegeta fuse all the way up until they come back to the present once Zeno destroy universe 7. I cried a bit when Trunks finally stabbed Zamasu and all that dialogue. Beautiful.

[BlueBasilisk]

It's just people complaining for the sake of it, nothing new. Their loss though, the game's pretty fun. Apparently, fusing is such a big no-no for some reason (no argument is ever given, of course) but, actually, not thinking about fusion is what would be strange. If a group of people know about such techniques, why wouldn't they consider them if the time is right?

And Fusions is delightfully tongue in cheek about how silly the whole premise is.

[Kinokima]

Personally I like Fusion I think it is a fun concept. I wouldn’t want it to be overused but I don’t think we are at that point yet.

[FortuneSSJ]

I prefer characters being their own person and working with others instead of joining together to create some new character. It is also the easy option to get out of a tough situation.

Dragon Ball always had shortcuts like that. Capsules, senzus and drinking magic water is what helped kid Goku survive and move the plot forward.
In DBZ besides the fusion, you also have the Time Chamber asspull. Since people like to use that word nowadays, let's at least use it correctly and not for "things I don't like".

[Kinokima]

I prefer characters being their own person and working with others instead of joining together to create some new character. It is also the easy option to get out of a tough situation.

Dragon Ball always had shortcuts like that. Capsules, senzus and drinking magic water is what helped kid Goku survive and move the plot forward.
In DBZ besides the fusion, you also have the Time Chamber asspull. Since people like to use that word nowadays, let's at least use it correctly and not for "things I don't like".

It has the ultimate shortcut right in the title the Dragonballs. Okay they don’t solve all problems but they certainly help a lot.

[Simere]

I prefer characters being their own person and working with others instead of joining together to create some new character. It is also the easy option to get out of a tough situation.

Dragon Ball always had shortcuts like that. Capsules, senzus and drinking magic water is what helped kid Goku survive and move the plot forward.
In DBZ besides the fusion, you also have the Time Chamber asspull. Since people like to use that word nowadays, let's at least use it correctly and not for "things I don't like".

There were reasons for other shortcuts not to be used: senzu are limited, zenkais have diminishing returns, there's no time to use the chamber, or time wouldn't be enough. Previously the only reason not to do potara fusion, besides pride, was being fused "forever". Neither are good enough reasons when facing an enemy that will bring about the end of everything. It's not even a good enough reason for them, because we know they'll do it when presented with no choice.

Thankfully, the retcon fixes this. Now it's a non-viable option. Now they can only be the strongest separately, which is how it should be.

[BrolyKale]

I never liked fusions... that's like the cheapest technique ever, simple and powerful.

[Chuquita]

I don't like fusions because it replaces characters I really like with ones that while I still like them, I like them a lot less. (Gokû, Vegeta, Zamasu, and Gokû Black I like so much more as individuals than as Merged Zamasu and Vegetto.)

The only canon(?) fusion who's more than the sum of their parts to me is Gotenks.

[shadowmaria]

I for one am very excited, except I think the highest level Kafla will unlock will be Super Saiyan 3

Then in the inevitable Planet Sadala arc, Kale and Caulifla would have learnt to attain that level all on their own

[SirTorra]

I for one am very excited, except I think the highest level Kafla will unlock will be Super Saiyan 3

Then in the inevitable Planet Sadala arc, Kale and Caulifla would have learnt to attain that level all on their own

By the Salad saga cauli and kale will most likely be around ssb level.

[shadowmaria]

I for one am very excited, except I think the highest level Kafla will unlock will be Super Saiyan 3

Then in the inevitable Planet Sadala arc, Kale and Caulifla would have learnt to attain that level all on their own

By the Salad saga cauli and kale will most likely be around ssb level.

And that's in their base form

[Noah]

I never liked fusions... that's like the cheapest technique ever, simple and powerful.

It's a blind hate, as matter of fact fusions never accomplished anything in this series

[JazzMazz]

I never liked fusions... that's like the cheapest technique ever, simple and powerful.

It's a blind hate, as matter of fact fusions never accomplished anything in this series

I think thats another reason why people don't like them. They are so powerful yet they also accomplish literally nothing and thus its predictable how most of their fights will turn out, with the fusion ending with their enemy on the ropes just as they are about to deliver their final blow.

[BrolyKale]

I never liked fusions... that's like the cheapest technique ever, simple and powerful.

It's a blind hate, as matter of fact fusions never accomplished anything in this series

I'm not hating, I just don't like it. That technique is so easy to achieve and you become super-strong just because you put earrings... I don't think its fair. Janemba was much stronger but then Gogeta appears and Janemba loses... so easy.

And I'm not disliking the characters, Vegetto, Gogeta, Gotenks or Kafla, I just don't like that fusion technique because its kinda unfair to me.

[Lionel]

The Achilles' Heel of fusion seems to be arrogance and time limits. Plus, derailing the expectations of the in-universe characters who think that the ability is going to save them in order to build tension and make everything seem dire is what Toriyama and Toei like to pride themselves on. In reality, it might be more original nowadays to have something like the fusion actually succeed because it's become routine for that to fail and have Goku somehow pull a rabbit out of his hat.