Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Hawk9211 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:12 am

I just hope that next episode is when we see tingly saiyans for last time.
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by gofishus » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:12 am

Wow finally Z style 'gritty' animation is back! Only took them 110+ episodes to do it. I MUCH prefer this style of animation - with all the bruises and dirt and scars and battle worn damage on everyone it just looks much more realistic. And also bringing back the narrator as well.. nice!
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by omaro34 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:21 am

Not much happened in the grand scheme of things in this episode. They could have fused at the end of last week's episode and it wouldn't have changed much at all.

Was hoping that Freeza would fight them, but as usual Goku ruined it.

Vegeta vs Toppo should be getting more attention than the few little scenes we've been getting.
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:32 am

This episode is getting some scathing hatred on Youtube.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Nero<>Akira » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:37 am

Episode was mostly great, looked great, and it had great animation, but it's so obvious people are blinded by the pretty visuals in regards to the fights. This episodes fighting was nowhere near last week's. I don't even know how anyone could say it was superior with a straight face. Most of the episode fighting wise was standing, powering up and some basic stuff for the most part with some good fighting sprinkled but not enough at all. It was decent at best taking it all in. Last week wqs jist better with fights
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Michsi » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:47 am

Guys! GUYS! DBZ!

I thought I was seeing things but then I checked Ajay's twitter and yes, we actually got someone's older style uncorrected. Well, at least, for a few moments here and there, but enough to make the whole episode great.

I even liked that small moment between Kale and Cauli at the beginning - well, at least until Kale popped a tear and suddenly regained her consciousness amongst shojo sparkles and bells.

Freeza was also top tier this episode, but this isn't anything new.

And Kefla seems fun. To be honest, her dual voice actually sounded a bit unsettling, and I liked that.

All in all, good episode! Great episode. More, please!
Bullza wrote:This episode is getting some scathing hatred on Youtube.


Let me guess - because of the girls?

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Bullza » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:49 am

Michsi wrote:Let me guess - because of the girls?
From what I can see a whole lot of crying about how Base Kelfa can beat Super Saiyan God.

It's usually always about the power levels.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by HeroR » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:52 am

Bullza wrote:
Michsi wrote:Let me guess - because of the girls?
From what I can see a whole lot of crying about how Base Kelfa can beat Super Saiyan God.

It's usually always about the power levels.
That's because a lot of fans truly believe Super Saiyan 2 Cali is as strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku from the freaking Buu Saga. Then again, these are the same idiots who think Super Vegetto from the Buu Saga is closed to Super Saiyan God Goku's level.

It's like, they don't understand that Super Saiyan isn't a set level. I guess they think Super Saiyan Goku from the Cell Games is the same power as Super Saiyan Goku from Namek since all Super Saiyan 2 are around Cell Saga Gohan.
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by precita » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:53 am

omaro34 wrote:
Vegeta vs Toppo should be getting more attention than the few little scenes we've been getting.
I don't know why people keep mentioning this, of course Vegeta/Toppo is going to get a full episode eventually. The only reason we get small scenes of it is so we don't wonder why Vegeta is off-screen for dozens of eps like Android 17 and 18.

I cannot understand how we're this late into the tournament of power and people don't get how this arc is structured.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Faisal Shourov » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:53 am

Bullza wrote:This episode is getting some scathing hatred on Youtube.
Many people are exhausted of asspull powerups and sad excuses for Goku holding back yet getting faceplanted on the ground
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:55 am

Michsi wrote: Let me guess - because of the girls?
Like it wasnt already obvious, they are literally holding back the ToP for me, I would even take Jiren's silent cocky disrespectful ass than those 2 walking fairy tail characters.
Cauli: You're the only one I can fight side by side, you're my precious protegee and my BEST FRIEND dazeee''
Kale: Tears* sis... YES SIS! *unlocks nakama friendship powerup controlled Broly hulk form activated!* from now on we'll always be together!
The fucking cringe that went through my body.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by precita » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:56 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Michsi wrote: Let me guess - because of the girls?
Like it wasnt already obvious, they are literally holding back the ToP for me, I would even take Jiren's silent cocky disrespectful ass than those 2 walking fairy tail characters.
Cauli: You're the only one I can fight side by side, you're my precious protegee and my BEST FRIEND dazeee''
Kale: Tears* sis... YES SIS! *unlocks nakama friendship powerup controlled Broly hulk form activated!* from now on we'll always be together!
The fucking cringe that went through my body.
They're girls. Probably in their teenage years or early 20's. What do you expect?

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:00 am

precita wrote: They're girls. Probably in their teenage years or early 20's. What do you expect?
Right, using our standards on what girls normally are when for one thing, they arent normal girls, they're aliens and second, we're not even sure how old they really are.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Michsi » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:01 am

Bullza wrote:
Michsi wrote:Let me guess - because of the girls?
From what I can see a whole lot of crying about how Base Kelfa can beat Super Saiyan God.

It's usually always about the power levels.
Life is so much easier when you don't care about power levels.

We had DBZ animation, shading and noses - why can't we all be happy about that?!
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Michsi wrote: Let me guess - because of the girls?
Like it wasnt already obvious, they are literally holding back the ToP for me, I would even take Jiren's silent cocky disrespectful ass than those 2 walking fairy tail characters.
Cauli: You're the only one I can fight side by side, you're my precious protegee and my BEST FRIEND dazeee''
Kale: Tears* sis... YES SIS! *unlocks nakama friendship powerup controlled Broly hulk form activated!* from now on we'll always be together!
The fucking cringe that went through my body.
Ok, I admit. The power of friendship bit was a little cringe inducing. But that was, like, a small part of the episode.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:06 am

Beautiful freaking episode. I really hope Toei sees Takahashi's work here and tells Yamamuro to take a hike. If someone like Takahashi were providing character designs and had Toei given the series a lot more pre-production time, Super would have looked so much better from the beginning. I really hope Takahashi returns sometime soon.

Here are some of my favorite shots:
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^Love the little "Spirit Gun" of sorts Goku does here
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^Highly reminiscent of Goku's Kamehameha against Broly in movie 8
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Also, is it just me or was Takahashi really channeling Masunaga's work in Z for this shot here?
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Also, I'm so sick of the forced Freeza arc callbacks:
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My favorite thing about this episode was seeing Super Saiyan God with the look of Z. I already was a huge fan of the form, and seeing it with this style and detail is absolutely amazing to me! In general I also love seeing Goku with torn clothing again. I've always loved the look of him with just his blue undershirt, and seeing regular Super Saiyan God with this battle damage excites my inner 10 year old.
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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:06 am

Michsi wrote: Ok, I admit. The power of friendship bit was a little cringe inducing. But that was, like, a small part of the episode.
They were flaunting their friendship sis/protegee love all over the damn episode man...

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Freeza9000 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:06 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Michsi wrote: Let me guess - because of the girls?
Like it wasnt already obvious, they are literally holding back the ToP for me, I would even take Jiren's silent cocky disrespectful ass than those 2 walking fairy tail characters.
Cauli: You're the only one I can fight side by side, you're my precious protegee and my BEST FRIEND dazeee''
Kale: Tears* sis... YES SIS! *unlocks nakama friendship powerup controlled Broly hulk form activated!* from now on we'll always be together!
The fucking cringe that went through my body.
Ah yes, that one had some bite to it.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by Freeza9000 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:08 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
Michsi wrote: Ok, I admit. The power of friendship bit was a little cringe inducing. But that was, like, a small part of the episode.
They were flaunting their friendship sis/protegee love all over the damn episode man...
And why exactly is that a bad thing?

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by julianix » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:09 am

One of the best drawn episodes....

One of the absolute worst piece of shit episodes all ruined by the power puff girls and the ridiculous power level inconsistencies. Nothing makes sense.

Next episode they'll transform and be stronger than whis.


While we're at it with the nonsense at least make golden Freeza stronger than them. How I don't know. He mediated I'm hell. The dude has a trump card. Someone take these characters out of super please.

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Re: Super Episode 114 (5 November 2017)

Post by SansrivaaL » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:11 am

Freeza9000 wrote: And why exactly is that a bad thing?
Cringe.

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