I don't get it. Why this sudden obsession with Piccolo being a huge deal again? He lost his revelance after the Android arc, we don't have use for him anymore, just deal it.perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).
The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
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You spent weeks wishing for bad stuff to happen to Caulifla and Kale and now the shoe's on the other foot. It isn't so funny when a character you like gets shit on, is it?namekiansaiyan wrote:They go to Namek instead to use the Dragon Balls and that is where the arc takes place and when Sadal comes back Vegeta doesn't want to go anymore as they allowed Frost to blow it up. I want this to happen to piss off all you Saiyan Fanboys and Fangirls.
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I doubt we would get an entire episode of UI Omen and a full epsoide of Jiren holding back. This isn’t Dragon Ball Z. Even Kai cut down on this.perucho1990 wrote:
Thats how i expect it.
Episode 1: Incomplete UI Goku vs Jiren
Episode 2: Goku Masters UI and fights Jiren(who doesnt use his full power yet)
Epiosde 3: Mastered UI Goku vs Full Power Jiren.
Episode 4: Probably the conclusion of the fight.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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What if Jiren has a transformation too. Almost all other main villains had them since Freeza arc. Saiyan arc too, if you include Vegeta's great ape change.HeroR wrote:That fight went on so long because it had different stages. Goku vs Jiren round 2 will most likely be two episodes. Three at most.perucho1990 wrote:It kinda dark that Christmas week will have U3 being erased, what a gift, right?precita wrote:At the rate this is going I'll probably have a complete mental breakdown by the time this arc ends. I already felt a bit sick to my stomach last night reading the spoilers, but I guess now it all depends on what happens in the climax.
Who knew watching a children's show could cause so much emotional turmoil?
The Goku vs Jiren rematch is going to be at least as long as the Saiyan Girls fight imo. If Jiren goes down after 2 episodes then it would be dumb.
We?Noah wrote:I don't get it. Why this sudden obsession with Piccolo being a huge deal again? He lost his revelance after the Android arc, we don't have use for him anymore, just deal it.perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).
The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
Also, this isn't about being useful, but about making him useful. Which given his past, he can be. Anything is possible.
Let people have preferences and grievances.
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why are people here so susceptible to mental breakdowns
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How long was the Goku vs Beerus fight in BoG? 4-5 episodes?HeroR wrote: I doubt we would get an entire episode of UI Omen and a full epsoide of Jiren holding back. This isn’t Dragon Ball Z. Even Kai cut down on this.
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I'm not a huge Piccolo fan calling for his return however the spirit of Dragon Ball is breaking your limits and moving forward. He doesn't have to be on par with Goku but there are other ways to be relevant than fighting the main boss.Noah wrote:I don't get it. Why this sudden obsession with Piccolo being a huge deal again? He lost his revelance after the Android arc, we don't have use for him anymore, just deal it.perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).
The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
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Yeah, but that was the only major fight in that arc and it did drag.perucho1990 wrote:How long was the Goku vs Beerus fight in BoG? 4-5 episodes?HeroR wrote: I doubt we would get an entire episode of UI Omen and a full epsoide of Jiren holding back. This isn’t Dragon Ball Z. Even Kai cut down on this.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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5. Episodes 10-14. 6 if you fight the battle on King Kai's planet in episode 5.perucho1990 wrote:How long was the Goku vs Beerus fight in BoG? 4-5 episodes?HeroR wrote: I doubt we would get an entire episode of UI Omen and a full epsoide of Jiren holding back. This isn’t Dragon Ball Z. Even Kai cut down on this.
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Dragonball is serious business. Also some people are way too attached to certain characters and have irrational meltdowns depending on their handling.RedHeat wrote:why are people here so susceptible to mental breakdowns
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the goku and X vs jiren finale should be 4 episodes imo. We had goku fight kale and caulifla for 4 episodes and that fight isn't half as important as the final fight
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He only fought them for 2 epsiodes, then Kafla for 2 episodes. The fusion is a different character and a different part of the fight. If Jiren has no transformations or anything, then there's no reason for it to be dragged out. The franchise generally treats transformations or fusions as new characters and not the same fight even if it's continuous.BlueVegerot wrote:the goku and X vs jiren finale should be 4 episodes imo. We had goku fight kale and caulifla for 4 episodes and that fight isn't half as important as the final fight
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You say that even know 17, 18 and Roshi have come out of nowhere and got good treatment. Your comment is the definition of wrong and invalid.Noah wrote:I don't get it. Why this sudden obsession with Piccolo being a huge deal again? He lost his revelance after the Android arc, we don't have use for him anymore, just deal it.perucho1990 wrote:And next week we get Jump Festa Info, if they announce Planet Sadala Arc, then things would get worse for Piccolo tbh(the Saiyan girls would eat A LOT of screen time in 2018).
The only way Piccolo gets as relevant as Z is if Toyotaro takes over, and Toriyama retires imo.
Every character I like gets shit on so notbing is new thereBlueBasilisk wrote:You spent weeks wishing for bad stuff to happen to Caulifla and Kale and now the shoe's on the other foot. It isn't so funny when a character you like gets shit on, is it?namekiansaiyan wrote:They go to Namek instead to use the Dragon Balls and that is where the arc takes place and when Sadal comes back Vegeta doesn't want to go anymore as they allowed Frost to blow it up. I want this to happen to piss off all you Saiyan Fanboys and Fangirls.
I would rather watch Universe 6 with a final 6 of Hit, Saonel, Pirina, Caulifla, Kale and Cabba then the 6 left on universe 7. I do not care at all about the members that are left on Universe 7 and I can't wait for them to get messed about.
I am sure I wrote that exact same scenraio about Planet Sadal about a month ago and everyone basically ignored it. I find it funny people only want to reply to me when a Piccolo is getting messed about. It is as if some of you are here just to try and make me look stupid.
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Does anyone else find it ironic that Piccolo and Tien are the only Z Fighters, outside of Goku and Vegeta, who train frequently, yet they got shafted the most in this tournament?
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
Honestly, I'm just glad that U7 is losing someone in 119 since U7 is dominating too much in this tournament and it's just ridiculous that U7 lost no one in the span of 12 episodes despite being the most active team in this tournament. However, Piccolo was one of the few remaining U7 members who hasn't really done too much in this tournament.
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
Honestly, I'm just glad that U7 is losing someone in 119 since U7 is dominating too much in this tournament and it's just ridiculous that U7 lost no one in the span of 12 episodes despite being the most active team in this tournament. However, Piccolo was one of the few remaining U7 members who hasn't really done too much in this tournament.
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i'd rather the final fight get dragged on then have more post tournament filler bs but thats just my opinionprecita wrote:He only fought them for 2 epsiodes, then Kafla for 2 episodes. The fusion is a different character and a different part of the fight. If Jiren has no transformations or anything, then there's no reason for it to be dragged out. The franchise generally treats transformations or fusions as new characters and not the same fight even if it's continuous.BlueVegerot wrote:the goku and X vs jiren finale should be 4 episodes imo. We had goku fight kale and caulifla for 4 episodes and that fight isn't half as important as the final fight
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Well the difference is we have no idea how strong Roshi got. He never fought any really strong opponents, and Frost tortured him fully. It's not too unbelieveable to think Roshi can be around Nappa or Saiyan Saga Vegeta strength if he trained seriously from Return of F till now.Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Does anyone else find it ironic that Piccolo and Tien are the only Z Fighters, outside of Goku and Vegeta, who train frequently, yet they got shafted the most in this tournament?
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
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If Roshi was only Nappa level, then that would mean that Caway from U4 isn't even fodder Frieza soldier level, which would be retarded since she should be one of the top 10 fighters in her tournament.precita wrote:Well the difference is we have no idea how strong Roshi got. He never fought any really strong opponents, and Frost tortured him fully. It's not too unbelieveable to think Roshi can be around Nappa or Saiyan Saga Vegeta strength if he trained seriously from Return of F till now.Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Does anyone else find it ironic that Piccolo and Tien are the only Z Fighters, outside of Goku and Vegeta, who train frequently, yet they got shafted the most in this tournament?
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
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The less you deserve the more you get in Dragon Ball unless you are Goku or Vegeta. 18 and Roshi doing nothing to get better is also something else for Tien and Piccolo fans to be annoyed about.Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Does anyone else find it ironic that Piccolo and Tien are the only Z Fighters, outside of Goku and Vegeta, who train frequently, yet they got shafted the most in this tournament?
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
They could just go to the next arc which if it exists would have been done a long time ago.BlueVegerot wrote:i'd rather the final fight get dragged on then have more post tournament filler bs but thats just my opinionprecita wrote:He only fought them for 2 epsiodes, then Kafla for 2 episodes. The fusion is a different character and a different part of the fight. If Jiren has no transformations or anything, then there's no reason for it to be dragged out. The franchise generally treats transformations or fusions as new characters and not the same fight even if it's continuous.BlueVegerot wrote:the goku and X vs jiren finale should be 4 episodes imo. We had goku fight kale and caulifla for 4 episodes and that fight isn't half as important as the final fight
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The thing about Roshi is that he was sidelined in Z. Heck, he was surpassed in dragon ball by everyone. It’s only because of Super that the creators made him this stupidly strong out of nowhere.precita wrote:Well the difference is we have no idea how strong Roshi got. He never fought any really strong opponents, and Frost tortured him fully. It's not too unbelieveable to think Roshi can be around Nappa or Saiyan Saga Vegeta strength if he trained seriously from Return of F till now.Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Does anyone else find it ironic that Piccolo and Tien are the only Z Fighters, outside of Goku and Vegeta, who train frequently, yet they got shafted the most in this tournament?
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
All they did was sprinkle a little bit of “oh he trained in secret” in Super and Now he can magically hold his own. Everyone buys it and eats it up.
How i predict the tournament will end:
Spoiler:
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Well the other humans made huge gains, Roshi did retire so he put effort in. I only see Roshi somewhere between Nappa and Saiyan Saga Vegeta, I don't think he got that strong. People putting Roshi on the level of the Ginyu Force is ridiculous.TheOne wrote:The thing about Roshi is that he was sidelined in Z. Heck, he was surpassed in dragon ball by everyone. It’s only because of Super that the creators made him this stupidly strong out of nowhere.precita wrote:Well the difference is we have no idea how strong Roshi got. He never fought any really strong opponents, and Frost tortured him fully. It's not too unbelieveable to think Roshi can be around Nappa or Saiyan Saga Vegeta strength if he trained seriously from Return of F till now.Hakaishin Liquir wrote:Does anyone else find it ironic that Piccolo and Tien are the only Z Fighters, outside of Goku and Vegeta, who train frequently, yet they got shafted the most in this tournament?
Piccolo trains all the time, but all he accomplished in this tournament was eliminating Rubalt and providing support to Gohan against the U6 Namekians. Tien also trains all the time, yet all he did was eliminate The Preecho with Roshi's help and take Hermila down with him. Meanwhile, Roshi, the 300 year old man who shouldn't even be capable of improving much in strength, does some off-screen training for about a year, which couldn't have been very intense since no one noticed, and he ends up eliminating 5 people. Then you have C18, who did absolutely no training (not even some random off-screen training like Roshi), and she gets to eliminate 5 people, one of which being a universe's MVP.
All they did was sprinkle a little bit of “oh he trained in secret” in Super and Now he can magically hold his own. Everyone buys it and eats it up.