"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

[HeroR]

On the topic of Black's voice, I kind of hope the whole obvious difference between base and Rose is kept. I always headcannoned it as Zamasu making a subtle jab at Goku and other mortals. "This is how gravely and dirty you sound until you get a TASTE of godhood!"

Actually, Rhymestyle said on Twitter that he doesn't do that anymore.

https://twitter.com/Rhymestyle/status/9 ... 9853580288

I just saw the Twitter:

It's not like you're a bad person for lying, if you telling the truth just show them the proof, that's how it works

Why would I even lie about something like that? And I don't post something like that anyway since it comes off as naming and shaming.

[Scsigs]

TFS is great, but it's also done a lot of damage to the series. It's REALLY annoying to see TFS quotes plastered in the comments of ANYTHING Dragon Ball related as if it's funny. "DODGE" wasn't funny the 10,586th time someone said it, and it's not going to be somehow funny the 10,587th time.

They've also tricked a chunk of the fanbase into thinking MADE UP JOKES are CANON, like Goku being a terrible father who hates his kids (not going to entertain anyone that seriously thinks this, you just straight up don't understand the character if you truly believe that).

Hahahahaha Piccolo is Gohan's real dad hahahahaha! Am I funny yet guys!????

I really don't get this mentality whatsoever. Do you honestly think that TFS expresses that they're word of god or anything? No they don't. the accusation that they've "tricked" a "chunk" of the fanbase into believing that their version of the storyline is canon is ridiculous to the highest degree, ESPECIALLY when they have the disclaimer, "the following is a fan-based parody, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball GT, & Dragon Ball Super are the properties of FUNimation, Toei Animation, Fuji TV, Shueisha, & Akira Toriyama, please support the official release" (I combined several of them, but you get the point). To actively portray them on the wrong side of this & not the insane fans who take everything they do too seriously is, frankly, asinine on your part & you REALLY need to chill the fuck out.

There's a difference between creators of something & their fans. I don't blame All Time Low or Fall Out Boy for their fan(girl)s going apeshit if you complain about their newest releases, I blame their fans for taking things too seriously & being stupid about it. The music itself is another matter, but that's for another time & place. Your not providing any proof of what you say being as bad as you say, because we can infer that that's happening to some minuscule extent based on some other complaints people on here have about those people. What's really not helping your argument is the unbelievability of it. Really? a CHUNK (which implies a good portion) of the DB fanbase was somehow convinced by a small group of people making a parody series that their version of events is canon rather than them endlessly making fun of things in the show? Really? I find that hard to believe. TFS doesn't claim that, no one claims that. Your interactions with this small fragment of people isn't indicative of the fanbase as a whole, nor is it ever going to be, especially since it's hearsay at best. Not that there aren't fans who haven't done those things, but you're overblowing it by a wide margin.

[Artorias]

TFS is great, but it's also done a lot of damage to the series. It's REALLY annoying to see TFS quotes plastered in the comments of ANYTHING Dragon Ball related as if it's funny. "DODGE" wasn't funny the 10,586th time someone said it, and it's not going to be somehow funny the 10,587th time.

They've also tricked a chunk of the fanbase into thinking MADE UP JOKES are CANON, like Goku being a terrible father who hates his kids (not going to entertain anyone that seriously thinks this, you just straight up don't understand the character if you truly believe that).

Hahahahaha Piccolo is Gohan's real dad hahahahaha! Am I funny yet guys!????

I really don't get this mentality whatsoever. Do you honestly think that TFS expresses that they're word of god or anything? No they don't. the accusation that they've "tricked" a "chunk" of the fanbase into believing that their version of the storyline is canon is ridiculous to the highest degree, ESPECIALLY when they have the disclaimer, "the following is a fan-based parody, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball GT, & Dragon Ball Super are the properties of FUNimation, Toei Animation, Fuji TV, Shueisha, & Akira Toriyama, please support the official release" (I combined several of them, but you get the point). To actively portray them on the wrong side of this & not the insane fans who take everything they do too seriously is, frankly, asinine on your part & you REALLY need to chill the fuck out.

There's a difference between creators of something & their fans. I don't blame All Time Low or Fall Out Boy for their fan(girl)s going apeshit if you complain about their newest releases, I blame their fans for taking things too seriously & being stupid about it. The music itself is another matter, but that's for another time & place. Your not providing any proof of what you say being as bad as you say, because we can infer that that's happening to some minuscule extent based on some other complaints people on here have about those people. What's really not helping your argument is the unbelievability of it. Really? a CHUNK (which implies a good portion) of the DB fanbase was somehow convinced by a small group of people making a parody series that their version of events is canon rather than them endlessly making fun of things in the show? Really? I find that hard to believe. TFS doesn't claim that, no one claims that. Your interactions with this small fragment of people isn't indicative of the fanbase as a whole, nor is it ever going to be, especially since it's hearsay at best. Not that there aren't fans who haven't done those things, but you're overblowing it by a wide margin.

Alright, I could've worded my post a little better. I want to clarify that I'm NOT blaming TFS WHATSOEVER. I'm blaming the moronic fanbase at large that has taken a great little parody series and driven it into the ground.

Most of your post doesn't apply to what I actually believe. Simple misunderstanding. I DO NOT blame TFS at all for how their fun product is being warped. I'm merely pointing out how it has inadvertently spawned a small ("chunk" does not imply "big", at least to me) movement of people that take the series far too seriously, the types of people that go to cons and ask the real voice actors to quote TFS.

One point that I will not back down from is that a certain part of the fandom DOES indeed get carried away with the TFS worship. Maybe you haven't seen it, but I know I've seen far too many people to count that go too far with giving too much legitimacy to a parody series on Youtube.

[Scsigs]

I don't really think it's fair to blame TFS for people being dumb asses.

On the topic of Black's voice, I kind of hope the whole obvious difference between base and Rose is kept. I always headcannoned it as Zamasu making a subtle jab at Goku and other mortals. "This is how gravely and dirty you sound until you get a TASTE of godhood!"

I don't think the gravelly voice should be kept, it was clearly a mistake based on lack of proper knowledge and direction. That said, it was funny to imagine Zamasu doing it. I can totally picture him on his own in front of a mirror (ala Travis Bickle) trying to sound badass and cool, and doing that voice.

The gravel is stupid. The British might work, but only if it's still during the SS Rosé moments & not before. If I understand the character right, he hates mortals & only used Goku's body as a means to an end, right? It isn't until he attains Rosé that he truly appreciates having Goku's body, right? Only then should he gain the accent, if he even needs to at all, which I'm still not convinced he does. He can still sound like he should if they word his dialogue right with an American accent. It'd still work with Schemmel's insistence that they're 2 separate characters too, since he gives Goku's different forms slight modifications to his Goku voice anyways. Goku's regular voice, just played straight rather than goofy, would be enough to suffice.
It's either that, or Schemmel should tone the accent down a bit so it's there, but the voice doesn't not sound like Goku anymore. When he uses the accent, he sounds more like Crowler from Yugioh GX, or Paradox from Bonds Beyond Time, both of whom he voiced for 4Kids. The voice ceases to sound like Goku anymore for the most part. If he can find a middle ground, I think it'd be a lot better.

[MR.Mark]

Thanks, sounds cool enough, I hear Damin's Freeza too, but that was to be expected.

I like that his tone reminds me of Linda Young, I enjoy her Freeza on video games.

I don't hear that all, sounds like he's starting to take it a little more in his own direction, making it more his own, but it's still very much modeled off of what Chris did.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

While we're on the subject of FighterZ, did anyone else hear Matthew Mercer out of Hit?

[Scsigs]

One point that I will not back down from is that a certain part of the fandom DOES indeed get carried away with the TFS worship. Maybe you haven't seen it, but I know I've seen far too many people to count that go too far with giving too much legitimacy to a parody series on Youtube.

Oh, I've seen people take TFS' word as gospel when interpreting the characters & that IS something that they're stupid for doing, it's just not as widespread as you were implying it was. No one should really take a parody series that derives most of its humor from taking the piss out of the storyline as gospel, mostly because alternate character interpretation is SERIOUSLY based on personal preferences. The writing of some characters IS something I take issue with on some cases, like Gohan's development, which I find problematic & doesn't make sense of where they'd get it from his original characterization, since it makes more sense as a critique of Goku's absence from his life, which is very much bullshit if you even remotely watch the show or read the manga. Abridged sinks the opinions of some of the characters if you just go by those interpretations of them. The people who can't separate the parody from the canon are just bad & I get where you're coming from, but those kinds of fans are gonna come with any fandom. Just look at some of the fanfiction of any franchise out there, especially the ones that rewrite story arcs. TFS is just like that stuff.

And it's not like fanfiction, or fan input, can't influence the original source either. Super at a few instances seems like they take some cues from them, which weren't that bad, & I don't see anything wrong with them being in a 2-minute scene in a dub of the series either, but that's just me. I get bth sides of the argument, it's just that I fall on this side of it.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

English dub Goku Black Rosé in FighterZ still sounds British. Um...

Please don't be like this in Super. Please please please.

[MR.Mark]

One point that I will not back down from is that a certain part of the fandom DOES indeed get carried away with the TFS worship. Maybe you haven't seen it, but I know I've seen far too many people to count that go too far with giving too much legitimacy to a parody series on Youtube.

Yep, and that's where I have issue, it's influence. Hell, I even made a point to cut the little TFA lines that they slipped into the Buu arc kai dub. Referencing your own past official dubs like over 9000 is already pushing it. Like Sabat finding it necessary to re-record over 9000 for the tv dub of Kai. But when a parody starts seeping in? Yeah, it's time to pull the plug on that bullshit.

[Scsigs]

English dub Goku Black Rosé in FighterZ still sounds British. Um...

Please don't be like this in Super. Please please please.

Depending on when they recorded the dub for FighterZ, it might be a done deal, unfortunately.

[MR.Mark]

My main concern is whether the accent is even consistent with regular Zamasu.

[Scsigs]

My main concern is whether the accent is even consistent with regular Zamasu.

I imagine he'll be portrayed with Marsters' natural American accent like in Xenoverse, just with an air of smug & his superiority complex influencing his speech patterns & dialogue, which would make sense. The way I'm seeing Black being portrayed in the arc, that makes the most sense to compliment him. If they play their cards well with the dub, the performances could be really good & memorable like the Japanese ones were.

[DainIronfoot]

My main concern is whether the accent is even consistent with regular Zamasu.

I imagine he'll be portrayed with Marsters' natural American accent like in Xenoverse, just with an air of smug & his superiority complex influencing his speech patterns & dialogue, which would make sense. The way I'm seeing Black being portrayed in the arc, that makes the most sense to compliment him. If they play their cards well with the dub, the performances could be really good & memorable like the Japanese ones were.

I've heard Zamasu's as well as Trunk's voice. His anime voice sounds similar to his XV2 but unlike in XV2, there is more emotion. It definitely sounds better than XV2, though i do want to hear more of it. It was only a clip of one scene after all. I haven't heard Black's voice though, so hopefully it sounds good!

[MR.Mark]

My main concern is whether the accent is even consistent with regular Zamasu.

I imagine he'll be portrayed with Marsters' natural American accent like in Xenoverse, just with an air of smug & his superiority complex influencing his speech patterns & dialogue, which would make sense. The way I'm seeing Black being portrayed in the arc, that makes the most sense to compliment him. If they play their cards well with the dub, the performances could be really good & memorable like the Japanese ones were.

Basically, if Sean is imitating Marsters inflection for consistency than i'm A-OK. If not, then well, that's random. Black is just another version of Zamasu after all.

[Scsigs]

My main concern is whether the accent is even consistent with regular Zamasu.

I imagine he'll be portrayed with Marsters' natural American accent like in Xenoverse, just with an air of smug & his superiority complex influencing his speech patterns & dialogue, which would make sense. The way I'm seeing Black being portrayed in the arc, that makes the most sense to compliment him. If they play their cards well with the dub, the performances could be really good & memorable like the Japanese ones were.

I've heard Zamasu's as well as Trunk's voice. His anime voice sounds similar to his XV2 but unlike in XV2, there is more emotion. It definitely sounds better than XV2, though i do want to hear more of it. It was only a clip of one scene after all. I haven't heard Black's voice though, so hopefully it sounds good!

I just hope that for base Black, he's still American in his accent. If Sean's gonna imitate Marsters' speech patterns, that makes sense, but I hope the whole performance isn't just "British accent" because that really wouldn't fit at all.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

I just hope that in the dub of Super, Sean Schemmel will find this middle ground where he still sounds similar to Goku, but the way he speaks and deliver his lines will remind me of Zamasu.

My biggest gripe with this whole British accent thing is that there is nothing about that voice that sounds like Goku. It also doesn't sound very intimidating. If they want him to sound more condescending, then do that through the writing and delivery. Don't just slap on a British accent.

[Dpc292]

God I hope Chris Ayers gets better by the time frieza returns to super. Damon mills voice sounds so lame as frieza.

[Metalwario64]

God I hope Chris Ayers gets better by the time frieza returns to super. Damon mills voice sounds so lame as frieza.

Unfortunately, he probably won't ever voice Freeza again, and he may only live 5-10 years or so after the procedure from my understanding. I really, really, really hope I'm wrong, but I don't want to get my hopes up in case this scenario is the outcome, in which case it'd be even more crushing than it already is.

[Dpc292]

God I hope Chris Ayers gets better by the time frieza returns to super. Damon mills voice sounds so lame as frieza.

Unfortunately, he probably won't ever voice Freeza again, and he may only live 5-10 years or so after the procedure from my understanding.

...but Damon sucks...and maybe Chris Ayers is the John Cena of voice actors and goes to the same healing fountain as cena does?

[Metalwario64]

It's just a terrible situation. I'm only going off of what I've read here and have looked into regarding double lung transplants, so I may have misunderstood everyone, and I really hope that's the case, but I don't want to get my hopes up, only to have them come crashing way down.