Dragon Ball has been a rare successful return of a franchise.

[foxfang4]

How lucky are we? When it's all said and done, the only 2 creative minds that have shown the talent to make lightning strike twice with successful reboots/"returns" are: Akira Toriyama and George Miller (Mad Max Fury Road). Every other franchise from major (Indiana Jones 4) to minor (Get Smart) has not been met favourably by its fan base. There's tons of examples of reboots or returns flopping. Even Star Wars with George Lucas' controversial (to say the least) prequels, and the extremely controversial (to put it nicely) recent "The Last Jedi" entry.

Then you read about these auteurs saying how difficult it is to capture the same magic as the originals. Hats off to Akira Toriyama for proving to be one of the great story tellers in modern history (as well as George Miller). The failure of of nearly every other franchise this era is a testament to their natural talent.

[Doctor.]

What are you talking about? DBS isn't a reboot.

I wouldn't say reception to the new series has been entirely positive, either.

[precita]

If you're speaking of major properties:

- Planet of the Apes new movies have been successful

- Star Trek (and dating back to Next Generation which back in the 80's was a relaunched franchise)

- Star Wars (whether you like the new movies or not, they're a success)

- Mad Maxx

- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

- Marvel cinematic universe

etc.

[KBABZ]

I disagree slightly with Star Wars; it's returned with two beloved films (The Force Awakens and Rogue One) alongside several well-regarded comic book series.

[ABED]

I think he means revivals and that's not even true. Plenty have been successful in one way or another. However, I haven't liked many of these revivals.

The ones I've liked:
Creed
Veronica Mars
Battle of Gods
The Last Jedi
Psych: The Movie

The ones I've seen, that I don't like
Fury Road, Gilmore Girls, Arrested Development: season 4 (hopefully 5 is better), Force Awakens, Revival of F, Indiana Jones 4, every Terminator after 2

[Jackalope89]

There was also the new version of Sailor Moon that came out, that was a closer adaptation of the manga. Though it too, like early Super Episodes, had certain, animation issues.



Full House has a sequel series on Netflix, Fuller House, with Candice Cameron Bure (D. J. Tanner) taking the lead. Same basic premise and on season 3 so far (but no Olsen twins this time around).

Boy Meets World had a similar concept in Girl Meets World, but that was canceled after season 3.

Hey Arnold! could be coming back, for at least a 6th season, depending on Nickelodeon and the success of the recent movie.

[Lord Beerus]

There have been plenty of returns to success for several franchises in just the last 10 years:
- Star Wars
- Star Trek
- Planet Of The Apes
- Godzilla
- King Kong
- Rocky (If you count Creed)
- Batman
- Captain America
- Blade Runner
- The Flash

EDIT: Forgot a few more

The ones I've seen, that I don't like
Fury Road, Gilmore Girls, Arrested Development: season 4 (hopefully 5 is better), Force Awakens, Revival of F, Indiana Jones 4, every Terminator after 2

[ABED]

Oh for crying out loud. What is it with that god damn movie that people have such a hard time wrapping their heads around the fact that I don't like it? It was two hours of people driving in two directions away from a boring antagonist(s) and engaging in some of the most repetitive action ever with a title character that has so little impact on the outcome of the story. I don't care for it. Car chases bore me after a while. Now imagine my reaction when nearly the whole movie is just that. It's BORING! If you like it, good for you. Stop acting like it's crazy to not like it. It's not even the best Mad Max film. I'd like to see a Mad Max film where he actually progresses.

Bringing back franchises often doesn't work because the magic is gone. The best ones move the story forward. Too often they rely on nostalgia, or they keep the characters exactly where we last saw them, or they digress them only to bring them back where they were when we last saw them so as to give the illusion of change. Even in Creed, the best part was Rocky's storyline because it was about a man at that point in his life. He wasn't just doing what he did in past movies.

I liked American Reunion but it's not a good film by any stretch.

So I wouldn't say DB is a rare success, simply because many of these returns have been financially successful.

[precita]

Mad Maxx Fury Road was one of the best films I've seen in recent years, and I'm only loosely a fan of the originals and have been a sci-fi fan for 3 decades.

[Vijay]

Look, DragonBall has always been a phenom. It transcends generations across the globe.

While its staying power was tested with "interval" b'ween GT's death & Kai's revival, I think its safe to say DB's reach & market (sales/ratings etc) are pretty dope

When has DB ever packed-up for it to return/back with a bang?!

If ur talkin objectively about anime series, I think Kai or Super have been nothin but disgrace to DB franchise. Its as if TOEI forcibly pretends to stay afloat in bussiness among its contemporaries & dat is not a tool to measure a success/failure of a franchise

I personally hated Mad Max Fury Road. Garbage direction, garbage screenplay, unlikable characters & freakin loud, disposable trash film. Hell, I skipped Furious 7 to watch MMFR (after reading GLOWING RT reviews) & darn it...I still regret till date on watchin dat film.

I would hardly say any revivals were successful. Hated Star Wars (Force Awakens was dogshit, while Rogue One was okayish), Kong: Skull Island & 2014 Godzilla were garbage monsta films & most MCU films except Winter Soldier & Civil War have been average at best. Dafuq?

[SSJ YUSUKE]

The fact that some people can call critically acclaimed and commercialy succesful films like the new Star Wars movies and Mad Max Fury Road garbage is laughable. This is why I dont take the fanboy rage about Super seriously, its a whole lot of moms basement types raging about things in an attempt to be edgy or to look at a property through nostalgia goggles.
I mean I dont like any of the Fast and the Furious movies but that doesnt mean that they are complelty without merit, I would never call them garbage or rage about them on the internet. In fact because I dont like that franchise I never talk about them. More important things in life to rage about than escapist films or childrens cartoons like Dragonball

[TheBigBoy]

Not liking Fury Road puts all of your opinions and tastes into question. Sorry, that's how it is.

[ABED]

Not liking Fury Road puts all of your opinions and tastes into question. Sorry, that's how it is.

I think you are being facitious, but I can't stand this sort of opinion. You don't know anything else about the person's taste, but you judge it purely on the assessment of that one movie? For the record, my favorite movies are Back to the Future, Jaws, and Empire Strikes Back. However, because I don't like Fury Road... It's not even the best Mad Max movie for crying out loud.

The fact that some people can call critically acclaimed and commercialy succesful films like the new Star Wars movies and Mad Max Fury Road garbage is laughable

All that matters is what each person's opinion is, not what critics or the box office say. How is what others say about them or DB Super for that matter of any importance to someone else's critique? I don't say any of this to be contrarian or "edgy", whatever that means in this context. I say it because I didn't enjoy Fury Road. I did enjoy the Last Jedi. I enjoyed Battle of Gods and didn't like RoF. My opinions are my own. I'm not trying to be different, nor am I trying to agree with the crowd when my opinions do overlap with the consensus. I like what I like based on my own tastes, as hard as it is for some to believe. It is very possible to like or not like something regardless of the prevailing opinion.

I don't rage about the film series I don't like. I do however take exception to when people knock me or others for liking or not liking what they do. It's fine and interesting to have a constructive dialog about art, including works that you don't like. It's dumb to make fun of people for their taste or lack thereof.

[VegettoEX]

Your personal opinion on Fury Road, and multiple antagonistic paragraphs thereof, isn't particularly relevant here.

[ABED]

Fair enough but I think the point being missed is that it's not my critique as much as the response that bugs me. Can't we all have a discussion about any work of art's merits without having to call their taste into question?

In any case, DB's successful return isn't all that rare. It's rare that the returns have been both financially and critically successful. My personal opinion is that most of the ones that have been critically successful have still been awful. Nostalgia is a powerful drug. This is not me reading into someone's views. Often critics will explicitly state that they like the revivals for nostalgic reasons.

I am interested in the reasons why DB's return has been so successful commercially. Was it the time away? Has the international market for movies matured? Regardless of my opinion on the movies, I find that endlessly fascinating.

[Timetraveller]

Weird huh? Immensely successful franchise still popular with fans after long hiatus and decades of testing the market with video games, merchandise and tv specials

[Hellspawn28]

Dragon Ball is a rare example of a franchise that never really died out for good after it ended. Sure it stop being as popular as it used too, but we still had a large amount of merchandise coming out for it. From 2002-2018 (Expect for in 2012/2013), we had a new video game coming out every year and I can't think of any of other video game based on animated show that is like that.

I'm not surprise that Super is doing well since I do feel like Toriyama's return to the series got people to check it out. If he didn't return for the last two movies and Super, I doubt they will be as as successful.

[ABED]

Weird huh? Immensely successful franchise still popular with fans after long hiatus and decades of testing the market with video games, merchandise and tv specials

I don't know if this comment is sarcastic. There are franchises that lay dormant for a while and a sequel comes out that isn't successful even if it's good. People just didn't care anymore.

[sintzu]

I don't know if it's rare but it's not easy. I think what helped is how DB was written and how it ended, it basically revolves around Goku and Friends looking for the next challenge to overcome so as long as there are good characters involved then things will most likely turn out good, especially with the original author involved. Another thing people look for in DB is good fights so like with the characters if the right team is handling them it's overall an easy recipe for success.

Not having the same opinion as mine puts all of your opinions and tastes into question. Sorry, that's how it is.

Fixed.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

I mean, its not really uncommon for a franchise revival to be commercially successful. Jurassic Park, American Pie, Star Wars, Mad Max have all done it, the latter two have also been critical successes. As much as I'm happy Dragon Ball is back and will watch Super no matter what it's been a commercial success but critically I would say mixed for the most part.