The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[nickzambuto]

Future Gohan loses an arm during his battle with the androids, but manages to survive and escape. Later when Bulma develops the time machine, it is he who travels back alone. In Trunks' place, Future Gohan with one arm now has to fight Mecha Freeza and King Cold. Can he win?

[nickzambuto]

Future Gohan vs Tenshinhan vs Piccolo, all with one arm, and their battle powers are equal.

[nickzambuto]

With equal battle powers how well do the following characters perform against Beerus?

-Goku
-Vegeta
-Freeza
-Gohan
-Piccolo
-Tenshinhan
-Kamesennin

[dragonball0900]

Future Gohan loses an arm during his battle with the androids, but manages to survive and escape. Later when Bulma develops the time machine, it is he who travels back alone. In Trunks' place, Future Gohan with one arm now has to fight Mecha Freeza and King Cold. Can he win?

I'm pretty sure Gohan would be stronger since time passed up between the Androids killing Gohan to the point where Bulma finishes with the time machine. Gohan would have certainly defeated Mecha Frieza and King Cold if that's the case. And even if he didn't get stronger, he would still defeat them since he is not like Goku who usually wants the opponents to use their full power, he would instantly kill Mecha Frieza like Trunks did and later finishes off King Cold. However if does make Frieza to use his full power it would be a really good fight for him (since Future Gohan is weaker than Future Trunks), but I think he eventually win.

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Future Gohan loses an arm during his battle with the androids, but manages to survive and escape. Later when Bulma develops the time machine, it is he who travels back alone. In Trunks' place, Future Gohan with one arm now has to fight Mecha Freeza and King Cold. Can he win?

Gohan stomps. Bulma said Trunks wasn't much different from Gohan if at all, and Trunks one shoted Freeza.

Future Gohan vs Tenshinhan vs Piccolo, all with one arm, and their battle powers are equal.

Probably Piccolo. I think it's going to be a tough fight between Piccolo and Ten, but since Piccolo can regenerate, he wins.

[nickzambuto]

Future Gohan probably has the best feats with one arm, holding off two stronger opponents at once. I don't think Piccolo ever actually fought with one arm, he loses them often but immediately regenerates, so he'd actually be on the bottom for me.

[dragon boss z]

Future Gohan loses an arm during his battle with the androids, but manages to survive and escape. Later when Bulma develops the time machine, it is he who travels back alone. In Trunks' place, Future Gohan with one arm now has to fight Mecha Freeza and King Cold. Can he win?

Gohan wins. He was actually able to put up a good fight against the androids if we go by the special.

Future Gohan vs Tenshinhan vs Piccolo, all with one arm, and their battle powers are equal.

Current Piccolo would win due to skill and techniques.

With equal battle powers how well do the following characters perform against Beerus?

-Goku
-Vegeta
-Freeza
-Gohan
-Piccolo
-Tenshinhan
-Kamesennin

Only ultra instinct Goku has a good chance of winning.

[supercat]

1. Pan (GT) vs Android 18 (DBZ)
2. Android 17 (DBS) vs Hell Fighter 17
3. Majuub vs Base Kefla
4. Hit vs Nuova Shenron (true form)
5. GT Frieza (4th form) vs DBS Frieza (4th form)

1. GT Pan should be able to win with ease. She was able to land a hit on Base Rild, who was stated to be stronger than Buu. The specific incarnation of Buu that was being referenced could be debatable, but the logical choice would be Buuhan or Kid Buu (strongest anime Buu). What would be the point of using someone's suppressed form as a measuring stick?

If this is current Android 18 (Super), she wins with little to no difficulty. 18 has enough feats to place her around the Base Saiyans, who by this point should be far above SSJ Vegetto (Buu saga); a character far stronger than GT Pan. 18's feats that earn her a spot at this level include her stellar performance against Ribrianne, a character who was shown to be quite comparable to Base Goku, if not a tad stronger. Then there's 18 tossing Tupper like nothing, despite Tupper crushing Base Goku just moments before. Though it could be Tupper's fluctuating weight that contributed to this feat.

2. Android 17 (Super) is SSB-tier; meaning, he should be leagues above anyone from GT. Although 17 (GT) was leagues above Buuhan, his power likely isn't even a tiny fraction of his good SSB-tier counterpart.

3. Majuub gets wrecked. Base Kefla is stronger than Ritual Form Goku; a level Majuub can only dream of.

4. Hit wins with the utmost ease. Nuova Shenron was comparable to an SSJ4 while Hit is comparable to an even more powerful SSB.

5. GT Frieza should be above Buuhan / Kid Buu by a small margin, but Final Form Frieza (Super) appears on par with post ritual Base Goku; a level that is presumably worlds stronger than SSJ Vegetto (Buu saga). Final Form Frieza (Super) wins with ease.

[Zamasu55]

So now 18 is stronger than Ssj Vegito.
What a time to be alive.

[sunsetshimmer]

So now 18 is stronger than Ssj Vegito.
What a time to be alive.

People obviously overrate Goku and Vegeta in Super, just like they think having god ki makes you stronger than every non-god.
They heard that Goku SSJG is stronger than Vegito SSJ and that Goku absorbed this power. Now everyone who make even base Goku or Vegeta struggle is stronger than Vegito, that includes Future Trunks and Gohan after few hours of training.
Also, it's series fault. It's too inconsistent. For me it looks like Goku and Vegeta are actually getting nerfed every next arc only to make justice to weaker S-fighters.
Copy-Vegeta was completely unaffected by Gotenks SSJ3
Yet Goku needed SSJ3 to beat Future Trunks who actually said that Dabura was a tough enemy
It's hard to tell how strong they actually are because plot armor is very strong in Super
Or just training in Super is like thousand times more effective than in previous series

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Gohan (Pre Rosat) vs Base Goku (Yardrat)

[dragonball0900]

Gohan (Pre Rosat) vs Base Goku (Yardrat)

Given that we don't have that much of an indication of how stong is Gohan in the Android arc, I put him at 3,000,000, the same power level Goku had on Namek. Goku form Yardrat is obviously stronger than that, and with Gohan's inexperience and Goku's knowledge of fighting, Goku wins this match.

[Ki Breaker]

Jiren vs Jiren

[Alruneia]

Jiren vs Jiren

Hard to say. Jiren knows everything Jiren is going to do, but that isn't going to help him, since Jiren knows everything Jiren is going to do. Strange, isn't it?

[Noah]

Jiren vs Jiren

Jiren stomps.

[dragon boss z]

Gohan (Pre Rosat) vs Base Goku (Yardrat)

Goku stomps. Not only do I think he is a good deal stronger, even if he was weaker he would be skilled enough to win.

[apex_pretador]

SSJG Yamcha vs Perfect Cell.

SSJGKKx20 Yamcha vs Super Perfect Cell.

Yamcha is not a saiyan, he is a human. So, he should be superhumangod (SHG)

Applying the superhumangod multiplier to Yamcha (alculated from Darkseid in final crisis), he becomes twice as strong as fat buu, and can put a good fight against kid buu. Yamcha wins.

Goku right after mastering 10x gravity versus Raditz.

Anime versions, meaning Goku already doubled his power from the time he fought Raditz by eating the Hell fruit, and 10 times gravity was still incredibly hard.

Goku's power level was 924, and Raditz was around 1330, so if Goku doubled his power level, then he would be 1848 so he should be able to stomp Raditz.

Future Gohan loses an arm during his battle with the androids, but manages to survive and escape. Later when Bulma develops the time machine, it is he who travels back alone. In Trunks' place, Future Gohan with one arm now has to fight Mecha Freeza and King Cold. Can he win?

If Freeza is taking it seriously, then I think he and his dad can win.

Future Gohan vs Tenshinhan vs Piccolo, all with one arm, and their battle powers are equal.

Piccolo wins, longer and stretchable arms.
Also better skill

[Hellspawn28]

Katopesla (Ultimate Mode) vs... in no real order

Mecha Freeza
Dr. Gero
Imperfect Cell (Pre-human absorbing)
Super #13
Semi Perfect Cell
Basil
Perfect Cell
Bojack (Post-Transformation)
SSj2 Cell Saga Gohan
Basil (Post-Transformation)
Magetta
Lavender
Fat Buu
SSj3 Buu saga Goku
Kid Buu
Super Buu
Zamasu (Goku's Timeline)
Janemba
Buuhan
Obuni
SSj Buu Saga Vegito
ROF 4th Form Freeza
SSjG BOG Goku
Golden Freeza
SSjR Goku Black
Merged Zamasu

Rules:

No outside help
Katopesla gets heal after each battle
Buu can't absorb people and turn them into candy

Which ones can he defeat and which ones does he lose too?

[Pantalones]

Future Gohan loses an arm during his battle with the androids, but manages to survive and escape. Later when Bulma develops the time machine, it is he who travels back alone. In Trunks' place, Future Gohan with one arm now has to fight Mecha Freeza and King Cold. Can he win?

Can he win? The question should be more like "who finishes them off quicker, Gohan with only one arm or Trunks with both arms?" I have no doubt that Gohan with a decade(or so?) of extra training would destroy them effortlessly, no matter how many arms he had. Heck, even an entirely disarmed version of this Gohan could probably pull it off with either a foot-Kamehameha or a Piccolo style mouth blast.

That might lead to an interesting change from the Android Saga we know, though -- instead of a Trunks who's strong compared to Freeza but not enough to really stand up to even the weaker future versions of the Androids, we have an older Gohan returning to the past after destroying the future Androids thanks to the power he gained from all those years of extra training... only to find that the present Androids he expected to be able to overpower the way he did with the future versions are even stronger, so much so that he's quickly overwhelmed when both of them attack at once.

With equal battle powers how well do the following characters perform against Beerus?

-Goku
-Vegeta
-Freeza
-Gohan
-Piccolo
-Tenshinhan
-Kamesennin

I don't know how well they'd all do in a fight -- even with equal power, Beerus would be pretty tough to overcome for most -- but I have to say that "Super God Roshi" vs. Beerus would probably be the most interesting to watch. Bring out all those weird wacky borderline-magic techniques he used in Dragonball (and some in the current tournament) but amp them up to god levels... that would be pretty impressive.

Future Gohan vs Tenshinhan vs Piccolo, all with one arm, and their battle powers are equal.

Tenshinhan's Kikoho seems massively less effective with only one arm (hurt Nappa a bit, destroyed what was left of his armor, but didn't accomplish any more than you'd expect something like a heavily charged Kamehameha to do... even though the Kikoho has been stated to have far greater destructive power than the Kamehameha), while Gohan learned how to fight really well with just one arm and Piccolo's one-armed Makankosappo was more than enough to finish off a guy around three times Piccolo's own strength so it doesn't seem to be hindered by the lack of an arm that much... so I'd say Tenshinhan would be at a clear disadvantage here unless he immediately uses his ability to sprout extra arms, which it seems he rarely ever uses.

Between Gohan and Piccolo I want to say Piccolo would probably come out on top, but future Gohan would give him a hell of a fight. Might come down to which of them used up more energy taking out Tenshinhan before they fought each other.

Gohan (Pre Rosat) vs Base Goku (Yardrat)

I figure Gohan was actually the strongest of the base Saiyans even before his training -- he only seemed weak due to unwillingness to fight and his lack of Super Saiyan, since all of the enemies at this point in the series were beyond the single-digit-millions/maybe-low-double-digit-millions levels the base Saiyans would've had.

But if the difference in raw power isn't too big, it's possible Goku can win thanks to vastly greater skill (and if Kaio-ken is allowed, then there's no question that Goku wins.)

[DBZ Macky]

Katopesla (Ultimate Mode) vs... in no real order

Mecha Freeza
Dr. Gero
Imperfect Cell (Pre-human absorbing)
Super #13
Semi Perfect Cell
Basil
Perfect Cell
Bojack (Post-Transformation)
SSj2 Cell Saga Gohan
Basil (Post-Transformation)
Magetta
Lavender
Fat Buu
SSj3 Buu saga Goku
Kid Buu
Super Buu
Zamasu (Goku's Timeline)
Janemba
Buuhan
Obuni
SSj Buu Saga Vegito
ROF 4th Form Freeza
SSjG BOG Goku
Golden Freeza
SSjR Goku Black
Merged Zamasu

Rules:

No outside help
Katopesla gets heal after each battle
Buu can't absorb people and turn them into candy

Which ones can he defeat and which ones does he lose too?

Katopesla should be in the same realm of power as the Buu Saga Base Saiyans in his regular form. Multiplying that by 300x, I think he would defeat Fat Buu (and everyone before him), but that's about it.