"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[CriticalThinker]

Man I'm even more hyped for 125 now that we have a team up between 17 and Freeza against Toppo. Also just wanna say that just because Gohan isn't mentioned in the spoilers doesn't mean he's out. I think this fanbase has a bad tendency to overreact to spoilers, just wait till 124 airs before y'all start rioting. Also, also the spoilers haven't always been a hundred percent accurate and this tiny spoiler doesn't give away the whole episode.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

Man I'm even more hyped for 125 now that we have a team up between 17 and Freeza against Toppo. Also just wanna say that just because Gohan isn't mentioned in the spoilers doesn't mean he's out. I think this fanbase has a bad tendency to overreact to spoilers, just wait till 124 airs before y'all start rioting. Also, also the spoilers haven't always been a hundred percent accurate and this tiny spoiler doesn't give away the whole episode.

This^. And I'm also excited to see Freeza vs Toppo, even just for a bit. And 17 is seriously that powerful to contribute to pushing a GoD candidate like Toppo in a corner? Jeezus.

[HeroR]

Gohan said he wanted to unlock a new form nobody has seen before. Odd how they can easily give both Goku and Vegeta new forms in the same arc but not Gohan.

Also odd how Gohan is in the background for 90% of the tournament while Goku/Vegeta could hog all the wins even against fodder enemies.

Gohan said that, but nothing hinted it was going to happened in this arc, especially since Gohan already boosted from strangled by Piccolo to 'rivaling' Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku. And Goku getting a new form was more or less hinted just by the intro of Super. Vegeta is the only oddball, but even then he didn't get a giant boost before the tournament unlike Gohan.

Vegeta only started to get more limelight recently. Before, Roshi had more scene time than Vegeta. So saying that 90% was Goku and Vegeta is factually incorrect.

The Goku and Vegeta show, unfortunately. Off-topic, but this is why series like One Piece are so good since other characters aside from Luffy get significant attention.

You can praised One Piece, but the fact remains that half the Straw Hats haven't even been in the story for over two years. And Luffy took over the story for over two years back in 2008 without any of the Straw Hats.

[Kataphrut]

On the plus side, Freeza vs Toppo is something I've been keen on for ages. I want them to embrace the Ultimate Hero vs Ultimate Evil angle.

On the negative side, looks like Gohan might actually be out. I wouldn't count on it just yet (spoilers have a history of playing funny buggers), but if so, man that's disappointing. I'm not expecting him to beat Jiren or Toppo, I have no illusions about that. I just want him to outlast 17. 17 has had so much hype despite being a secondary character in the arc. He's been great, but he's done enough. Gohan's done plenty, but I feel like he should be there at the end. Next to Freeza and Goku, he's the most interesting character in the tournament.

[Sonicjamareiz]

This was the last straw that breaks the camels back

I'm calling animal control you seem to be doing this on purpose.

[CriticalThinker]

Man I'm even more hyped for 125 now that we have a team up between 17 and Freeza against Toppo. Also just wanna say that just because Gohan isn't mentioned in the spoilers doesn't mean he's out. I think this fanbase has a bad tendency to overreact to spoilers, just wait till 124 airs before y'all start rioting. Also, also the spoilers haven't always been a hundred percent accurate and this tiny spoiler doesn't give away the whole episode.

This^. And I'm also excited to see Freeza vs Toppo, even just for a bit. And 17 is seriously that powerful to contribute to pushing a GoD candidate like Toppo in a corner? Jeezus.

To be honest I wasn't expecting a Freeza vs Toppo fight so I'm pretty glad that's gonna go down better yet that it involves a team up with 17. Glad that even if 17 is out in 125 he'll give Toppo a good fight, won't be surprised though if he gets rag dolled by Toppo once he goes God or whatever happens to him.

[Hakaishin Liquir]

Technically nothing's confirmed. But these implications from the spoilers aren't gonna make Gohan fans happy at all. Not sure I'm ready for the potential outrage that could come from this week's episode >_> <_<

They should have never made those recruitment build up episodes if they were never going to lead to anything. They did the same thing with Krillin.

Dude what does Gohan have to do to please you? Solo Jiren?

[HeroR]

Man I'm even more hyped for 125 now that we have a team up between 17 and Freeza against Toppo. Also just wanna say that just because Gohan isn't mentioned in the spoilers doesn't mean he's out. I think this fanbase has a bad tendency to overreact to spoilers, just wait till 124 airs before y'all start rioting. Also, also the spoilers haven't always been a hundred percent accurate and this tiny spoiler doesn't give away the whole episode.

This^. And I'm also excited to see Freeza vs Toppo, even just for a bit. And 17 is seriously that powerful to contribute to pushing a GoD candidate like Toppo in a corner? Jeezus.

To be honest I wasn't expecting a Freeza vs Toppo fight so I'm pretty glad that's gonna go down better yet that it involves a team up with 17. Glad that even if 17 is out in 125 he'll give Toppo a good fight, won't be surprised though if he gets rag dolled by Toppo once he goes God or whatever happens to him.

He's probably doing well because of Freeza going by his performance so far with Toppo.

[CriticalThinker]

This^. And I'm also excited to see Freeza vs Toppo, even just for a bit. And 17 is seriously that powerful to contribute to pushing a GoD candidate like Toppo in a corner? Jeezus.

To be honest I wasn't expecting a Freeza vs Toppo fight so I'm pretty glad that's gonna go down better yet that it involves a team up with 17. Glad that even if 17 is out in 125 he'll give Toppo a good fight, won't be surprised though if he gets rag dolled by Toppo once he goes God or whatever happens to him.

He's probably doing well because of Freeza going by his performance so far with Toppo.

Oh no doubt that he does better against Toppo because of Freeza but 17 did do well against Toppo in their short fight in 123, granted Toppo wasn't at full power but still.

[HeroR]

Oh no doubt that he does better against Toppo because of Freeza but 17 did do well against Toppo in their short fight in 123, granted Toppo wasn't at full power but still.

17 didn't do all that good, especially since his plan was to get grabbed and then rung out.

[precita]

I never thought I'd see Toriyama favor 17 so much over Gohan when he wrote 17 out of the show since the moment Cell absorbed him and we never saw him again for 20 years.

[Bullza]

I'm getting more concerned that it won't actually come down to Goku and Frieza vs Jiren in the end.

[HeroR]

I'm getting more concerned that it won't actually come down to Goku and Frieza vs Jiren in the end.

Why would it? Freeza wants nothing to do with Jiren.

[CriticalThinker]

Oh no doubt that he does better against Toppo because of Freeza but 17 did do well against Toppo in their short fight in 123, granted Toppo wasn't at full power but still.

17 didn't do all that good, especially since his plan was to get grabbed and then rung out.

In my heart he did well, jokes aside though I know that Toppo outclasses 17 and it shows by him forming that plan with Gohan. Granted they've barely fought as is so I guess we won't know how well he does until 125. Who knows maybe 17 wasn't fighting at full power or will get a power up, I mean it's doubtful but anything can go with Supers writing.

[Bullza]

Why would it? Freeza wants nothing to do with Jiren.

I still want it to happen just to see Goku and Frieza team up together. It could still happen, just so long as Toppo doesn't eliminate Frieza which might be likely as he will almost certainly eliminate Android 17.

[supercat]

That's awesome Android 17 is making it so far. Seriously, 17 teaming up with Frieza to fight Toppo of all people is almost a dream come true! A big showdown like that just doesn't seem like it'd fit Gohan. His overall mentality and approach is just so lackluster; he would have likely ruined the whole experience. I'm guessing 17 wasn't going all out before anyway, seeing as how we've never had any indication of him doing so.

[HeroR]

Happy to see Android 17 making it so far. Seriously, 17 teaming up with Frieza to fight Toppo of all people is almost a dream come true! A big showdown like that just doesn't seem like it'd fit Gohan. His overall mentality and approach is just so lackluster; he would have likely ruined the whole experience. I'm guessing 17 wasn't going all out before anyway, seeing as how we've never had any indication of him doing so.

I'm sure 17 was going all out. There is no real reason for him to hold back against Toppo or think that ringing himself his a good option if he still had more power.

[supercat]

Happy to see Android 17 making it so far. Seriously, 17 teaming up with Frieza to fight Toppo of all people is almost a dream come true! A big showdown like that just doesn't seem like it'd fit Gohan. His overall mentality and approach is just so lackluster; he would have likely ruined the whole experience. I'm guessing 17 wasn't going all out before anyway, seeing as how we've never had any indication of him doing so.

I'm sure 17 was going all out. There is no real reason for him to hold back against Toppo or think that ringing himself his a good option if he still had more power.

It seems pretty plausible that he'll put up a commendable battle against Toppo. Plus, he never did all that bad against Toppo anyway. His blasts prompted the same Toppo that had tanked Gohan's Kamehameha full on to dodge. Then there's 17 taking the Justice Flash like it's nothing. Overall, 17 did much better against Toppo than Gohan did; this is further supported by Gohan's poor attempt of a sneak attack.

17 was able to push back and go right through an attack that was on the verge of wrecking five SSB-tier fighters, so he's definitely not a pushover. This is also the same character who in his suppressed state gave a suppressed SSB Goku a really good fight. I mean, I'm not saying he's going to wreck Toppo by any means, but for him to be some tagalong that only does well because of Frieza seems like a downplay; especially when he already has numerous feats that portray him as a major powerhouse.

[HeroR]

It seems pretty plausible that he'll put up a commendable battle against Toppo. Plus, he never did all that bad against Toppo anyway. His blasts prompted the same Toppo that had tanked Gohan's Kamehameha full on to dodge. Then there's 17 taking the Justice Flash like it's nothing. Overall, 17 did much better against Toppo than Gohan did; this is further supported by Gohan's poor attempt of a sneak attack.

17 was able to push back and go right through an attack that was on the verge of wrecking five SSB-tier fighters, so he's definitely not a pushover. This is also the same character who in his suppressed state gave a suppressed SSB Goku a really good fight. I mean, I'm not saying he's going to wreck Toppo by any means, but for him to be some tagalong that only does well because of Frieza seems like a downplay; especially when he already has numerous feats that portray him as a major powerhouse.

His performance against Toppo has been meh and 17 has been overwhelmed several times by him. If 17 was hiding power, he wouldn't have suggested Gohan ring him out with Toppo.

[supercat]

It seems pretty plausible that he'll put up a commendable battle against Toppo. Plus, he never did all that bad against Toppo anyway. His blasts prompted the same Toppo that had tanked Gohan's Kamehameha full on to dodge. Then there's 17 taking the Justice Flash like it's nothing. Overall, 17 did much better against Toppo than Gohan did; this is further supported by Gohan's poor attempt of a sneak attack.

17 was able to push back and go right through an attack that was on the verge of wrecking five SSB-tier fighters, so he's definitely not a pushover. This is also the same character who in his suppressed state gave a suppressed SSB Goku a really good fight. I mean, I'm not saying he's going to wreck Toppo by any means, but for him to be some tagalong that only does well because of Frieza seems like a downplay; especially when he already has numerous feats that portray him as a major powerhouse.

His performance against Toppo has been meh and 17 has been overwhelmed several times by him. If 17 was hiding power, he wouldn't have suggested Gohan ring him out with Toppo.

His performance wasn't amazing but he still did far better than Gohan did. Toppo actually took the time to dodge his attacks, which is a total contrast to how he shrugged off Gohan's Kamehameha. Justice Flash also failed against 17, so there's that. Maybe there isn't any latent power he's hiding, but either way, his current clash with Toppo wasn't long enough to gauge accurately. I'm just skeptical that Frieza's going to be doing all the work is all.