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I wonder if Bulma was bluffing, 17 looks dumb by threatening every scientist in the world. I like how #16 intervened that, hopefully he will knock Goku's head next.
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If a planet-destroying power was used to move water, the result would have been an explosion of super-heated water due to the huge amount of energy transferred. Bulma would have been killed and the damage would have been catastrophic, but she's still alive and everything is still standing. 18 was just pushing the water outward with a force field and the result looks like a normal flood that any superhuman can dodge by jumping into the air.rereboy wrote:Of all the possible problems, that's not one. The water was pushed by a force stronger than a Super Saiyan. The speed would just depend on that force.Slangh wrote:Surely a Super Saiyan is fast enough to avoid water? This special is putting itself in the weirdest positions to achieve a certain outcome in the story.
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Don't apply realistic physics to DB please, sir. By the same token, all of the energy explosions should be causing third degree burns to every non-superpowered human who looks at them due to the sheer amount of thermal radiation, but they don't. They don't behave like real world explosions at all in any way whatsoever, so trying to apply the reasoning that water pushed with that force would be steam (it would be plasma) isn't valid to DB's internal logic where characters can somehow avoid blowing up the planet but still hurt strong enemies because the explosions don't behave like real energy. Hell, the characters should be super-heating the air like a re-entry craft because they are clearly going many double figure machs at the very lowest, but this never happens because it's a comic and not a physics textbook.Slangh wrote:If a planet-destroying power was used to move water, the result would have been an explosion of super-heated water due to the huge amount of energy transferred.
It fits with DB's own internal logic that 18 can push water really fast, but it doesn't become steam or turn to plasma for the same reason that this has never been applied to the super speed of the characters, their punches and kicks, or the light from their ki attacks before. That should be enough.
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I know realistic physics don't apply to DB, especially when it comes to ki attacks. My point was that the water looks like everyone could have easily dodged it except for Bulma. 18's forcefield just seems to displace the water, making it flow freely as if a dam was breached but nothing that Super Saiyans can't dodge. Maybe if the water was at least exploding outwards, with a sense of speed and power, it would have been convincing, along with some destruction in the vicinity. But nothing is destroyed, Bulma survived easily and everyone just got soaked as if they merely had a water balloon fight, so it's not convincing enough.Regarder wrote:Don't apply realistic physics to DB please, sir. By the same token, all of the energy explosions should be causing third degree burns to every non-superpowered human who looks at them due to the sheer amount of thermal radiation, but they don't. They don't behave like real world explosions at all in any way whatsoever, so trying to apply the reasoning that water pushed with that force would be steam (it would be plasma) isn't valid to DB's internal logic where characters can somehow avoid blowing up the planet but still hurt strong enemies because the explosions don't behave like real energy. Hell, the characters should be super-heating the air like a re-entry craft because they are clearly going many double figure machs at the very lowest, but this never happens because it's a comic and not a physics textbook.Slangh wrote:If a planet-destroying power was used to move water, the result would have been an explosion of super-heated water due to the huge amount of energy transferred.
It fits with DB's own internal logic that 18 can push water really fast, but it doesn't become steam or turn to plasma for the same reason that this has never been applied to the super speed of the characters, their punches and kicks, or the light from their ki attacks before. That should be enough.
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Goku probably just wasn't thinking that the water was a threat. Or he just let his guard down, as he so often does.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of "Goku is only smart when it comes to fighting." Superhuman Bulma would've dodged, somebody like Trunks carrying the remote probably would've dodged, but Goku had a duh moment and didn't think about keeping the remote away from the water.
So when he saw a wave coming he was just like "oh it's just water, no need to dodge that."
So when he saw a wave coming he was just like "oh it's just water, no need to dodge that."
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Fair enough. I think you can argue it doesn't look violent enough to catch everyone. Maybe Bulma could've been shielded by someone in that case.Slangh wrote:I know realistic physics don't apply to DB, especially when it comes to ki attacks. My point was that the water looks like everyone could have easily dodged it except for Bulma. 18's forcefield just seems to displace the water, making it flow freely as if a dam was breached but nothing that Super Saiyans can't dodge. Maybe if the water was at least exploding outwards, with a sense of speed and power, it would have been convincing, along with some destruction in the vicinity. But nothing is destroyed, Bulma survived easily and everyone just got soaked as if they merely had a water balloon fight, so it's not convincing enough.Regarder wrote:Don't apply realistic physics to DB please, sir. By the same token, all of the energy explosions should be causing third degree burns to every non-superpowered human who looks at them due to the sheer amount of thermal radiation, but they don't. They don't behave like real world explosions at all in any way whatsoever, so trying to apply the reasoning that water pushed with that force would be steam (it would be plasma) isn't valid to DB's internal logic where characters can somehow avoid blowing up the planet but still hurt strong enemies because the explosions don't behave like real energy. Hell, the characters should be super-heating the air like a re-entry craft because they are clearly going many double figure machs at the very lowest, but this never happens because it's a comic and not a physics textbook.Slangh wrote:If a planet-destroying power was used to move water, the result would have been an explosion of super-heated water due to the huge amount of energy transferred.
It fits with DB's own internal logic that 18 can push water really fast, but it doesn't become steam or turn to plasma for the same reason that this has never been applied to the super speed of the characters, their punches and kicks, or the light from their ki attacks before. That should be enough.
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That would be a pretty stupid thing to do in a fight and somehow 18 thought Goku was going to do this?:P This thing is full of holes.Pantalones wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just a case of "Goku is only smart when it comes to fighting." Superhuman Bulma would've dodged, somebody like Trunks carrying the remote probably would've dodged, but Goku had a duh moment and didn't think about keeping the remote away from the water.
So when he saw a wave coming he was just like "oh it's just water, no need to dodge that."
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Part of Z Warriors:
- Wanna-be assassin (Tenshinhan)
- Son of Demon King (Piccolo)
- Planet destroyer battle loving maniac (Vegeta)
All of them tried to kill Goku, so don't worry #18, you guys fit perfectly
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Did the Lazuli of that universe get a boob job?
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Missed the last couple of pages, have you?Cetra wrote:Did the Lazuli of that universe get a boob job?
But yeah. The artist certainly has an, "interesting" version of 18 going here.
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Her shirt is wet so her breast should look bigger even without artist interpretation.
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What lmaomiguelnuva1 wrote:Her shirt is wet so her breast should look bigger even without artist interpretation.
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Doesn't really explain Bulma, thoughmiguelnuva1 wrote:Her shirt is wet so her breast should look bigger even without artist interpretation.
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Uh what again? #16 main objective is to kill Son Goku, but yet he seems fine with letting everyone go? One thing is to advice 17/18 to not go kill innocent people, but their goal is to kill Goku and they not even focusing on that.coola wrote:[spoiler][/spoiler]
Also who #18 killed anyway? Man, this special writing is worse than the actual arc.
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He hasn't said anything about letting them go though, or about not wanting to kill Goku. He's just trying to prevent 17 and 18 from killing other innocents, something I would see fitting with 16's nature.jeffbr92 wrote:Uh what again? #16 main objective is to kill Son Goku, but yet he seems fine with letting everyone go? One thing is to advice 17/18 to not go kill innocent people, but their goal is to kill Goku and they not even focusing on that.
She says 'almost killed', which would basically cover all of them from earlier in the arc, when she definitely almost did in Vegeta.Also who #18 killed anyway? Man, this special writing is worse than the actual arc.
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I mean, I'm all for some good Multiverse special-bashing, but if we're gonna complain about sloppy writing, let's at least be cognizant of our own.jeffbr92 wrote:
Also, who did #18 killed, anyway? Man, this special writing is worse than the actual arc.
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Thanks man, I didn't realize that the way I wrote my post was incomprehensible until your correction.Kamiccolo9 wrote:I mean, I'm all for some good Multiverse special-bashing, but if we're gonna complain about sloppy writing, let's at least be cognizant of our own.
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