Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:11 pm

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majinwarman wrote: If Yamoshi is in the film, it will most likely be a flashback scene and wouldn't be long at all. The film will most likely be focused on Brolli and his past.
I think they could do a Broly’s Second Coming and have Goku and Vegeta pushing back Broly. But before they lose, the spirit of Yamoshi shows up to help finish off Broly.
Revived by Baba for one day, to finish off Broly?
More like either he somehow comes thanks to the dragon balls OR Goku and Vegeta’s ki fuses and it forms Yamoshi spirit who helps finish off Broly.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by Miracles » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:19 pm

In the trailer, it seems Goku went UI when Broly transformed into his full power state.

I really doubt Gogeta shows up. Besides, for the sake of continuity, fusing would be against Goku and Vegeta's pride.

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Post by alakazam^ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:20 pm

1345521 wrote:For ALL. The only ones they reanimated were the ones that didnt have a "kai" to. like the movies and specials. smh.
If they reanimated some, they didn't use Kai footage for all...

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:35 pm

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1345521 wrote:For ALL. The only ones they reanimated were the ones that didnt have a "kai" to. like the movies and specials. smh.
If they reanimated some, they didn't use Kai footage for all...
Never mind Kai keeping Frieza running free in hell with the other villains and watching the Majin Buu fight which is completely at odds with Resurrection F. Or Kai's very first scene being footage recycled from the Bardock special which is now completely at odds with Goku's actual backstory from Toriyama.
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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:36 pm

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1345521 wrote:For ALL. The only ones they reanimated were the ones that didnt have a "kai" to. like the movies and specials. smh.
If they reanimated some, they didn't use Kai footage for all...
well Okay, the ones they didn't use kai was because there was no "kai footage" hence why they had to enimate it. Dbs super anime is the continuation of Kai, it's FACTS. While the dbs manga is the conainution of OG db manga. FACTS. All we need now is for this movie to AT LEAST have NO MENTION of kaioken OR eovlution, and toei is going in the absloute right direction. We have a new director as well as character designer. If they ever bring back the anime, it will be to promote the dbs manga as they will adapt the dbs manga as their anime. Once that happens, IT'S OVER The manga vs anime war will be finished, as toyotaro and manga fans will have won. toei will now adapt toyos manga, and dragon ball will return to back to its former glory of db and Z. Can't wait. Also, the people who hated toyotaro and defended toei...RIP
Either they'll have to leave the community, jump on board on the toyotaro train, or continue to hate toyotaro which will anger the rest of the community and they'll be for to seclude into the deep and largely irrelvant facations of the db community. MAUAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH :twisted: It won't be Long Now....

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:40 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:
1345521 wrote:For ALL. The only ones they reanimated were the ones that didnt have a "kai" to. like the movies and specials. smh.
If they reanimated some, they didn't use Kai footage for all...
Never mind Kai keeping Frieza running free in hell with the other villains and watching the Majin Buu fight which is completely at odds with Resurrection F. Or Kai's very first scene being footage recycled from the Bardock special which is now completely at odds with Goku's actual backstory for Toriyama.
Okay.... dbs is still the continuation of db kai. LOOOOL. Just because things have been retconed dosen't mean otherwise..... :roll:

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:44 pm

1345521 wrote:
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alakazam^ wrote: If they reanimated some, they didn't use Kai footage for all...
Never mind Kai keeping Frieza running free in hell with the other villains and watching the Majin Buu fight which is completely at odds with Resurrection F. Or Kai's very first scene being footage recycled from the Bardock special which is now completely at odds with Goku's actual backstory for Toriyama.
Okay.... dbs is still the continuation of db kai. LOOOOL. Just because things have been retconed dosen't mean otherwise..... :roll:
Well in that case you should be able to provide an official source from Toei or Toriyama declaring it as such. Otherwise you're just peddling headcanon as fact.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Mister_Popo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:48 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:
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AnimeNation101 wrote: I think they could do a Broly’s Second Coming and have Goku and Vegeta pushing back Broly. But before they lose, the spirit of Yamoshi shows up to help finish off Broly.
Revived by Baba for one day, to finish off Broly?
More like either he somehow comes thanks to the dragon balls OR Goku and Vegeta’s ki fuses and it forms Yamoshi spirit who helps finish off Broly.

The spirit that escapes from the defeated Broly appears to be Yamoshi's old evil Saiyan adversary, the two ensue is an immense battle, a rematch of the battle in the past we've seen earlier in the movie.
It's unclear how the battle ends, but when Goku and Vegeta both regain conciousness, suddenly Whis stands before them and tells them with a wink: 'It seems like you lucky guys had a guardian angel, but this time it wasn't me ...'
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by sintzu » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:48 pm

Mister_Popo wrote:You can always decide not to watch second trailer. :mrgreen:
That's easier said than done. :lol: I'll probably end up reading the whole thing once it's released in Japan.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:55 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
1345521 wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote: Never mind Kai keeping Frieza running free in hell with the other villains and watching the Majin Buu fight which is completely at odds with Resurrection F. Or Kai's very first scene being footage recycled from the Bardock special which is now completely at odds with Goku's actual backstory for Toriyama.
Okay.... dbs is still the continuation of db kai. LOOOOL. Just because things have been retconed dosen't mean otherwise..... :roll:
Well in that case you should be able to provide an official source from Toei or Toriyama declaring it as such. Otherwise you're just peddling headcanon as fact.
My dude, ALL OF THEIR FLASH BACKS ARE FROM KAI. NOT Z, KAI!!!!!!!AKANBUHNDKEI

Obviously some things have been retconned, but it's still from kai. If super isn't a cotninaution of kai, what is it a continuation of? the og db manga? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good joke, that's only meant for Akiras CHOSEN ONE SUCESSOR'S manga. Not Toei-trash. Okay i'll chill... :lol:
Z? Um... why does it never mention Z nor show any footage from it?
DB? lol
GT? So we got on a time machine and erased everyone's memory after buu? :D
dude, it's an continuation of Db kai. Just like GT is an conatuion of Z.

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Post by alakazam^ » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:29 pm

1345521 wrote: My dude, ALL OF THEIR FLASH BACKS ARE FROM KAI. NOT Z, KAI!!!!!!!AKANBUHNDKEI

Obviously some things have been retconned, but it's still from kai. If super isn't a cotninaution of kai, what is it a continuation of? the og db manga? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good joke, that's only meant for Akiras CHOSEN ONE SUCESSOR'S manga. Not Toei-trash. Okay i'll chill... :lol:
Z? Um... why does it never mention Z nor show any footage from it?
DB? lol
GT? So we got on a time machine and erased everyone's memory after buu? :D
dude, it's an continuation of Db kai. Just like GT is an conatuion of Z.
BlueBasilisk asked if you had an official source stating it, do you have one or not?

All of Kai is footage from Z so I'm not even sure what your point is.

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Post by YamiGoku » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:12 pm

1345521 wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:
1345521 wrote: Okay.... dbs is still the continuation of db kai. LOOOOL. Just because things have been retconed dosen't mean otherwise..... :roll:
Well in that case you should be able to provide an official source from Toei or Toriyama declaring it as such. Otherwise you're just peddling headcanon as fact.
My dude, ALL OF THEIR FLASH BACKS ARE FROM KAI. NOT Z, KAI!!!!!!!AKANBUHNDKEI

Obviously some things have been retconned, but it's still from kai. If super isn't a cotninaution of kai, what is it a continuation of? the og db manga? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good joke, that's only meant for Akiras CHOSEN ONE SUCESSOR'S manga. Not Toei-trash. Okay i'll chill... :lol:
Z? Um... why does it never mention Z nor show any footage from it?
DB? lol
GT? So we got on a time machine and erased everyone's memory after buu? :D
dude, it's an continuation of Db kai. Just like GT is an conatuion of Z.
you know that Kai is just the name of a shorter version of Z right? all the footage from Kai comes from Z, they just removed some filler parts and "remastered" it. they use Kai footage because it's the last shiny version of Z they have.

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Post by Bergamo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:15 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
1345521 wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote: Never mind Kai keeping Frieza running free in hell with the other villains and watching the Majin Buu fight which is completely at odds with Resurrection F. Or Kai's very first scene being footage recycled from the Bardock special which is now completely at odds with Goku's actual backstory for Toriyama.
Okay.... dbs is still the continuation of db kai. LOOOOL. Just because things have been retconed dosen't mean otherwise..... :roll:
Well in that case you should be able to provide an official source from Toei or Toriyama declaring it as such. Otherwise you're just peddling headcanon as fact.
I don't disagree with you, but please use the word headcanon correctly.
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Post by Mister_Popo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:18 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
1345521 wrote: My dude, ALL OF THEIR FLASH BACKS ARE FROM KAI. NOT Z, KAI!!!!!!!AKANBUHNDKEI

Obviously some things have been retconned, but it's still from kai. If super isn't a cotninaution of kai, what is it a continuation of? the og db manga? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good joke, that's only meant for Akiras CHOSEN ONE SUCESSOR'S manga. Not Toei-trash. Okay i'll chill... :lol:
Z? Um... why does it never mention Z nor show any footage from it?
DB? lol
GT? So we got on a time machine and erased everyone's memory after buu? :D
dude, it's an continuation of Db kai. Just like GT is an conatuion of Z.
BlueBasilisk asked if you had an official source stating it, do you have one or not?

All of Kai is footage from Z so I'm not even sure what your point is.
If i'm not mistaken, I think he sees two continuities: DBZ / GT and DB Kai / DBS.
Of course we all know the official anime continuation is DB / DBZ - DB Kai (the same without filler) / DBS

GT till now has no place in the anime continuity. But it's his way to keep it a part of the continuity, in his head, purely based on subjective reasons.

He doesn't like Super. But there are threads enough 'do we like DBS or not?' to discuss the quality. Why does this need to be adressed here in the Broly movie thread?

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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:46 pm

Bergamo wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:
1345521 wrote: Okay.... dbs is still the continuation of db kai. LOOOOL. Just because things have been retconed dosen't mean otherwise..... :roll:
Well in that case you should be able to provide an official source from Toei or Toriyama declaring it as such. Otherwise you're just peddling headcanon as fact.
I don't disagree with you, but please use the word headcanon correctly.
Kai is NOT Z. They are two differnt shows. One is just a poor mans version of the orginal...but that's another topic for another day. Point is, they are differnt.
Z has 289 episoes plus the Movies,

kai just has the episodes. Super is the cotnuation of DRAGON BALL KAI more so then Z. GT is the continuation of Z since it uses elements from Z, GT is not the continuation of the OG db manga. Once you understand they are all differnt:
db
db kai
Z
Db manga
GT
Super manga
Super anime
then you'll be able to peice the facts together.

db manga -> dbs manga
Db -> Z -> GT
Db -> db kai -> Dbs anime

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Post by Bergamo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:47 pm

Mister_Popo wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:
1345521 wrote: My dude, ALL OF THEIR FLASH BACKS ARE FROM KAI. NOT Z, KAI!!!!!!!AKANBUHNDKEI

Obviously some things have been retconned, but it's still from kai. If super isn't a cotninaution of kai, what is it a continuation of? the og db manga? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good joke, that's only meant for Akiras CHOSEN ONE SUCESSOR'S manga. Not Toei-trash. Okay i'll chill... :lol:
Z? Um... why does it never mention Z nor show any footage from it?
DB? lol
GT? So we got on a time machine and erased everyone's memory after buu? :D
dude, it's an continuation of Db kai. Just like GT is an conatuion of Z.
BlueBasilisk asked if you had an official source stating it, do you have one or not?

All of Kai is footage from Z so I'm not even sure what your point is.
If i'm not mistaken, I think he sees two continuities: DBZ / GT and DB Kai / DBS.
Of course we all know the official anime continuation is DB / DBZ - DB Kai (the same without filler) / DBS

GT till now has no place in the anime continuity. But it's his way to keep it a part of the continuity, in his head, purely based on subjective reasons.

He doesn't like Super. But there are threads enough 'do we like DBS or not?' to discuss the quality. Why does this need to be adressed here in the Broly movie thread?
GT is a continuation of Z. It's not a canon continuation, but a continuation nonetheless.
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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:54 pm

Mister_Popo wrote:
alakazam^ wrote:
1345521 wrote: My dude, ALL OF THEIR FLASH BACKS ARE FROM KAI. NOT Z, KAI!!!!!!!AKANBUHNDKEI

Obviously some things have been retconned, but it's still from kai. If super isn't a cotninaution of kai, what is it a continuation of? the og db manga? HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good joke, that's only meant for Akiras CHOSEN ONE SUCESSOR'S manga. Not Toei-trash. Okay i'll chill... :lol:
Z? Um... why does it never mention Z nor show any footage from it?
DB? lol
GT? So we got on a time machine and erased everyone's memory after buu? :D
dude, it's an continuation of Db kai. Just like GT is an conatuion of Z.
BlueBasilisk asked if you had an official source stating it, do you have one or not?

All of Kai is footage from Z so I'm not even sure what your point is.
If i'm not mistaken, I think he sees two continuities: DBZ / GT and DB Kai / DBS.
Of course we all know the official anime continuation is DB / DBZ - DB Kai (the same without filler) / DBS

GT till now has no place in the anime continuity. But it's his way to keep it a part of the continuity, in his head, purely based on subjective reasons.

He doesn't like Super. But there are threads enough 'do we like DBS or not?' to discuss the quality. Why does this need to be adressed here in the Broly movie thread?
idk what you're talking about. I gave my claim, its you guys who are coming at me. That same Broly Movie probably won't have Kaioken nor evolution which will hopefully further estbalish how illgitmate supers anime. OH what would be the most AWESOME THAT COULD HAPPEN. okay okay, hear me out
Toyotaro manga becomes the mian canon. and toei either REBOOTS of all of super (YAAAAASSSS) (and call it like New dragonabll super)or basically says that all 131 episodes of super are non canon and that from here on out will be the actaul dbs.
And then ..AND THEN... Toyotaro makes AN ARC WHERE ONE OF THE TIMELINES IS GT!!!! We get dbs manga the main canon, GT becomes canon while supers anime becomes non canon. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:55 pm

Bergamo wrote:
Mister_Popo wrote:
alakazam^ wrote: BlueBasilisk asked if you had an official source stating it, do you have one or not?

All of Kai is footage from Z so I'm not even sure what your point is.
If i'm not mistaken, I think he sees two continuities: DBZ / GT and DB Kai / DBS.
Of course we all know the official anime continuation is DB / DBZ - DB Kai (the same without filler) / DBS

GT till now has no place in the anime continuity. But it's his way to keep it a part of the continuity, in his head, purely based on subjective reasons.

He doesn't like Super. But there are threads enough 'do we like DBS or not?' to discuss the quality. Why does this need to be adressed here in the Broly movie thread?
GT is a continuation of Z. It's not a canon continuation, but a continuation nonetheless.
Exactly.

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1345521 wrote:
Mister_Popo wrote:
alakazam^ wrote: BlueBasilisk asked if you had an official source stating it, do you have one or not?

All of Kai is footage from Z so I'm not even sure what your point is.
If i'm not mistaken, I think he sees two continuities: DBZ / GT and DB Kai / DBS.
Of course we all know the official anime continuation is DB / DBZ - DB Kai (the same without filler) / DBS

GT till now has no place in the anime continuity. But it's his way to keep it a part of the continuity, in his head, purely based on subjective reasons.

He doesn't like Super. But there are threads enough 'do we like DBS or not?' to discuss the quality. Why does this need to be adressed here in the Broly movie thread?
idk what you're talking about. I gave my claim, its you guys who are coming at me. That same Broly Movie probably won't have Kaioken nor evolution which will hopefully further estbalish how illgitmate supers anime. OH what would be the most AWESOME THAT COULD HAPPEN. okay okay, hear me out
Toyotaro manga becomes the mian canon. and toei either REBOOTS of all of super (YAAAAASSSS) (and call it like New dragonabll super)or basically says that all 131 episodes of super are non canon and that from here on out will be the actaul dbs.
And then ..AND THEN... Toyotaro makes AN ARC WHERE ONE OF THE TIMELINES IS GT!!!! We get dbs manga the main canon, GT becomes canon while supers anime becomes non canon. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
There's probably never going to be a main canon. It will probably be Anime/Manga/Movie forever. I personally like that there are multiple interpretations of the same story.
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Jul 29, 2018 7:00 pm

Bergamo wrote:There's probably never going to be a main canon. It will probably be Anime/Manga/Movie forever. I personally like that there are multiple interpretations of the same story.
I do too. If you don't like one version, one of the others might have something more to your liking. Makes things more accessible and friendly for everyone, I think.

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