Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[TheOne]

Vegeta fused with Goku in the Buu Saga, yet never got Super Saiyan 3. The whole passing knowledge thing was only a thing in the Super manga about Vegeta knowing about completed Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.




He's stronger than a God of Destruction with UI, not closed to.

In my statement I clearly offered a reason why that theory of merging bodies wouldn’t be too logical. The extra example of ssj3 served as no real purpose. Toei has made it clear they are willing to change things up as they see fit. We grew up with Trunks having purple hair and they want to pretend as if his hair has always been blue. That’s not the only thing just an example.

As far as Goku being stronger than a God of Destruction, read the Broly summary. He’s close but he’s clearly not there yet. If you’re going to call the writers a liar, then I think you should start writing your own dragon ball series instead. Since you clearly want to Force your head canon on everyone else.

Umm, goku beat a guy who was stronger than his god of destruction. So yes, at the very least, goku is at god of destruction level, and above at least a couple, not nessessarily all of them.

This should be another testament to how bad these people are at their job. For a show as popular as this, you’d think they’d be able to make things more transparent. Instead, you’re having people divided and arguing over extremely vague details that could easily be fixed with a little more planning.

[theTUN]

How do you guys think this movie will end
Also, what information do you think Akira is going to reveal to us about the sayains and such?

I think it’ll end with Goku and broly having some kind of weird friendship. Not like in the past where Broly mindlessly hated everyone. Reading the summaries about Freeza's henchmen helped solidly in my guess that Broly wouldn’t mind some form of friendship. We will see what happens

I could see him being friendly with Chirai at first, but she either dies or betrays him and that's what really sets him off.

[Miracles]

As far as Goku being stronger than a God of Destruction, read the Broly summary. He’s close but he’s clearly not there yet. If you’re going to call the writers a liar, then I think you should start writing your own dragon ball series instead. Since you clearly want to Force your head canon on everyone else.

I agree with you.

[Noah]

As a Vegeta fan this is why I like GT Vegeta. He’s moved on with his life.

Hahahaha

I love it. The only thing I hate tho is the way Vegeta needed a ray gun to become 4. Disrespect.

Well, it is still better than having pulled powers out of his ass becoming stronger than a SSJ3 as a SSJ2.

[AnimeNation101]

How do you guys think this movie will end
Also, what information do you think Akira is going to reveal to us about the sayains and such?

I think it’ll end with Goku and broly having some kind of weird friendship. Not like in the past where Broly mindlessly hated everyone. Reading the summaries about Freeza's henchmen helped solidly in my guess that Broly wouldn’t mind some form of friendship. We will see what happens

I could see him being friendly with Chirai at first, but she either dies or betrays him and that's what really sets him off.

Plz be this. I dont usually welcome death of thicc characters but when i do, its for character development of villains.
I hope Broly and Cheelai actually do have some sort of development and she’s not just some unimportant one-off

[alakazam^]

This should be another testament to how bad these people are at their job. For a show as popular as this, you’d think they’d be able to make things more transparent. Instead, you’re having people divided and arguing over extremely vague details that could easily be fixed with a little more planning.

They're bad at their job for being vague? Have you considered that being the point?

[Nickolaidas]

I was afraid that Jiren and UI power levels would make Frieza obsolete, but he still seems to be a valid threat to the team. I also like the fact that he's becoming more of an orchestrator/chessmaster rather than a bloodthirsty brute.

What will make or break this movie (for me) will be if Frieza will be utterly humiliated by Broly without having any badass moments himself. The tyrant needs to shine in the film, otherwise he'll suffer from Villain Decay, like in the old Z movies.

[Miracles]

As a Vegeta fan this is why I like GT Vegeta. He’s moved on with his life.

Hahahaha

I love it. The only thing I hate tho is the way Vegeta needed a ray gun to become 4. Disrespect.

Well, it is still better than having pulled powers out of his ass becoming stronger than a SSJ3 as a SSJ2.

lol

[sintzu]

As a Vegeta fan this is why I like GT Vegeta. He’s moved on with his life.

It's a shame he didn't move on with his power and degree of contribution in major fights.

[Gt91]

How do you guys think this movie will end
Also, what information do you think Akira is going to reveal to us about the sayains and such?

Broly is defeated but not dead.
Dialogue between bills and whis about goku and co.
Something about new sayans around U7.
Freeza and his new projects.

[Lord Frieza]

How do you guys think this movie will end

I think Broly’s runaway power allows humans Goku to fight to a draw with Broly having the edge.

Frieza is impressed with Broly but unhappy his men tried to influence him, which backfired and got them killed and caused Broly to go berserk.

Frieza takes Broly with the threat that with his power he will rule over all.

[HeroR]

He's stronger than a God of Destruction with UI, not closed to.

You're right, stronger than Belmound.

Except Whis clearly said that the mortal that a God of Destruction can't destroy is stronger than Beerus. The only refute we got from Beerus was 'it was arm wrestling', where Beerus has every reason to play down his lost.

[HeroR]

In my statement I clearly offered a reason why that theory of merging bodies wouldn’t be too logical. The extra example of ssj3 served as no real purpose. Toei has made it clear they are willing to change things up as they see fit. We grew up with Trunks having purple hair and they want to pretend as if his hair has always been blue. That’s not the only thing just an example.

As far as Goku being stronger than a God of Destruction, read the Broly summary. He’s close but he’s clearly not there yet. If you’re going to call the writers a liar, then I think you should start writing your own dragon ball series instead. Since you clearly want to Force your head canon on everyone else.

Purple hair Trunks was actually Toriyama that Toei didn't bother to change. The fact, nothing suggest that the fusion retain knowledge outside of Vegeta knowing about Completed Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan in the manga.

That is again assuming that they're talking about UI, which Goku doesn't even has free access to. And the writers throughout Super stated that UI is state beyond the Gods of Destruction with Jiren called a mortal stronger than a God of Destruction. This isn't 'head canon' as you so neatly put it.

This should be another testament to how bad these people are at their job. For a show as popular as this, you’d think they’d be able to make things more transparent. Instead, you’re having people divided and arguing over extremely vague details that could easily be fixed with a little more planning.

They're bad at their job for being vague? Have you considered that being the point?

It's not even vague. I mean, the show told us several times that Jiren is stronger than a God of Destruction with Whis even saying 'this god is stronger than Beerus'. It's fans who keep splitting hairs.

[Lord Frieza]

You know I'm going to do something I have not done once ever since BoG's was announced.

I've spoiled every single Dragon Ball related thing for the past 4 years, I think I've seen and know enough already. I'm quitting the forum and dodging every single db channel or outlet till I see the film first hand. Thats gonna be hard, I've only ever done that twice since I joined, during the recruitment arc when I got sick and tired of all the bickering and then after Super ended, and in both cases only for a month or so. I'm signing myself up for a year or more .

Oh well see you guys then, if anyone remembers me that is lol.

[Miracles]

Except Whis clearly said that the mortal that a God of Destruction can't destroy is stronger than Beerus. The only refute we got from Beerus was 'it was arm wrestling', where Beerus has every reason to play down his lost.

We know for a fact that Beerus only lost in arm wrestling and not combat ever in Toriyama's outline in both manga/anime. So Beerus wasn't lying unlike Whis spreading false rumors.

[shadd21]

Where was it ever shown or implied that Beerus was stronger than Belmond and Jiren? I feel people are overestimating Beerus’ power.

[GodVegetto91]

As a Vegeta fan this is why I like GT Vegeta. He’s moved on with his life.

Hahahaha

I love it. The only thing I hate tho is the way Vegeta needed a ray gun to become 4. Disrespect.

Well, it is still better than having pulled powers out of his ass becoming stronger than a SSJ3 as a SSJ2.

No it’s NOT! Him being stronger than a SSJ3 as a SSJ2 all by will power/anger is far more impressive and worth of respect than him reaching SSJ4 with outside help. This should be blindingly obvious to anyone.

Pride > No Pride.

[Kaiosama]

As a Vegeta fan this is why I like GT Vegeta. He’s moved on with his life.

It's a shame he didn't move on with his power and degree of contribution in major fights.

This is the same thing that's happened to pretty much every Z-fighter in Super outside of Frieza. Vegeta just happened to get lucky this time around with the writers deciding to not have him take the Gohan route.

[Kaiosama]

Where was it ever shown or implied that Beerus was stronger than Belmond and Jiren? I feel people are overestimating Beerus’ power.

Beerus was show in the Manga taking on all the other Hakaishin at the same time while using an imperfect Ultra Instinct. None of the other Hakaishin showed any hints of UI. He is also able to one-shot CSSB Vegeta who is strong enough to be a Hakaishin candidate in other universes.

[HeroR]

Except Whis clearly said that the mortal that a God of Destruction can't destroy is stronger than Beerus. The only refute we got from Beerus was 'it was arm wrestling', where Beerus has every reason to play down his lost.

We know for a fact that Beerus only lost in arm wrestling and not combat ever in Toriyama's outline in both manga/anime. So Beerus wasn't lying unlike Whis spreading false rumors.

How do we know for a fact that ‘Beerus only lost in arm wrestling and not combat ever‘? Dod you see this in question? Did someone in Super say this is what happened? Where is your evidence?

Where was it ever shown or implied that Beerus was stronger than Belmond and Jiren? I feel people are overestimating Beerus’ power.

Beerus was show in the Manga taking on all the other Hakaishin at the same time while using an imperfect Ultra Instinct. None of the other Hakaishin showed any hints of UI. He is also able to one-shot CSSB Vegeta who is strong enough to be a Hakaishin candidate in other universes.

He dodged them for a while and then got grabbed from behind. He was then tagged, trapped, and was bloody by the end of the battle. So he isn’t that far beyond the other gods, especially when Belmond wasn’t hurt since he played dead.