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1. What-if Zamasu stole Broly’s body instead of Goku?
2. What-if all the movie villains were canon? (Save for all three of the original Broly movies)? How would this affect the events forward into DBS? Also pretend that they fit into the timeline.
2. What-if all the movie villains were canon? (Save for all three of the original Broly movies)? How would this affect the events forward into DBS? Also pretend that they fit into the timeline.
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1) Which version of Broly? The original one from Dragon Ball Z or the more Kale-looking one from Dragon Ball Super: Broly?Berserker1921 wrote:1. What-if Zamasu stole Broly’s body instead of Goku?
2. What-if all the movie villains were canon? (Save for all three of the original Broly movies)? How would this affect the events forward into DBS? Also pretend that they fit into the timeline.
2) I suppose in Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone, the events of the very first movie of Dragon Ball Z can take place in the last month before the likes of Son Gohan would have been born, with this fact causing Son Goku to become more far serious than he was in the original timeline of the film in order to go and save his wife and unborn son from the clutches of Garlic Junior? With Garlic Junior and his men failing to summon Shenron from Son Goku arriving before all of them in a rage over them kidnapping his wife, son, and nearly killing his father-in-law. While Son Goku would have been at the least slightly weaker than his counterpart from the original Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone in this scenario, his overwhelmingly intense rage over the fact of being reminded of the evil Piccolo Daimaō and his two encounters with the Demon King from the wicked actions of Garlic Junior and Garlic Junior’s equally Demonic Minions, would have led to Son Goku receiving such a Rage-Boost, he would have been able to defeat the original three Cronies of Garlic Junior even before anyone of the three could have powered-up, but against the Spice Boys, Son Goku would have needed to completely lose himself in his righteous anger to have momentarily awakened his False Super Saiyan form to defeat the Spice Boys, however, the likes of Super Garlic Junior, who would have used the time it took for Son Goku to defeat his followers to transform, would have required Mr. Piccolo to arrive and help an exhausted Son Goku to take on and defeat the wannabe King of Demons and Guardian of Earth. If you would like me to continue, then please reply back.
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The new Broly and yeah sure.Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Which version of Broly? The original one from Dragon Ball Z or the more Kale-looking one from Dragon Ball Super: Broly?Berserker1921 wrote:1. What-if Zamasu stole Broly’s body instead of Goku?
2. What-if all the movie villains were canon? (Save for all three of the original Broly movies)? How would this affect the events forward into DBS? Also pretend that they fit into the timeline.
2) I suppose in Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone, the events of the very first movie of Dragon Ball Z can take place in the last month before the likes of Son Gohan would have been born, with this fact causing Son Goku to become more far serious than he was in the original timeline of the film in order to go and save his wife and unborn son from the clutches of Garlic Junior? With Garlic Junior and his men failing to summon Shenron from Son Goku arriving before all of them in a rage over them kidnapping his wife, son, and nearly killing his father-in-law. While Son Goku would have been at the least slightly weaker than his counterpart from the original Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone in this scenario, his overwhelmingly intense rage over the fact of being reminded of the evil Piccolo Daimaō and his two encounters with the Demon King from the wicked actions of Garlic Junior and Garlic Junior’s equally Demonic Minions, would have led to Son Goku receiving such a Rage-Boost, he would have been able to defeat the original three Cronies of Garlic Junior even before anyone of the three could have powered-up, but against the Spice Boys, Son Goku would have needed to completely lose himself in his righteous anger to have momentarily awakened his False Super Saiyan form to defeat the Spice Boys, however, the likes of Super Garlic Junior, who would have used the time it took for Son Goku to defeat his followers to transform, would have required Mr. Piccolo to arrive and help an exhausted Son Goku to take on and defeat the wannabe King of Demons and Guardian of Earth. If you would like me to continue, then please reply back.
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1) The two incarnations of Future Trunks from the Dragon Ball Super Manga and Anime respectively would have been able to gain access to the Super Saiyan 3 form or even the Super Saiyan Rage form as early as in the very first encounter with Broly Black: BR. That is if the two versions of Future Trunks are able to survive against the incarnation of Broly Black: BR from their very own respective timelines of Dragon Ball Super, but if Present Zamasu had taken the body of Broly: BR, this hypothetical Broly Black: BR would have been much more of a monster in battle than even Goku Black himself ever been in the canon story, so much so that he might have accidentally killed Future Zamasu when trying to convince and recruit the latter to his cause, leading to Future Bulma staying alive a lot longer than in canon because of Broly Black: BR taking his time in trying to get more accustomed to his new body through Meditation or even Future Bulma unfortunately dying a lot more quickly and painfully than when the snide asshole known as Goku Black had done the deed to her canonically because of Broly Black: BR’s inability to show any restraint in his actions. It is very likely that in one of these 2 scenarios Future Trunks would have taken his mother, Future Bulma, and girlfriend, Future Mai, with him to the past if both of the 2 were still alive and well as it is simply far too dangerous to leave them behind with Broly Black: BR prowling about or in a scenario with Future Bulma, Future Mai, and the vast majority of the survivors having fallen at the hands of the evil Broly Black: BR, Future Trunks would have been able to evolve his Full Power Super Saiyan 3 or Full Power Super Saiyan Rage into Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue respectively from his anger over not being able to have protected anyone at all from Broly Black: BR, allowing him to injure Broly Black: BR long enough to get into his Time Machine and head back into the past as Future Trunks would have had close to a year to perfect his Super Saiyan 2 and his even further form of Super Saiyan, a Fourth Grade of Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan 3 or of Super Saiyan Rage would have been possible. Upon bringing everyone outside of Capsule Corporation up to speed with Broly Black: BR and the near-extinction of all of Humanity, an excited Son Goku would have eagerly asked for a friendly sparring-match between him and Future Trunks before the son of Bardock would have been immediately forced to use his Chou Super Saiyan 3 transformation against the Full Power Super Saiyan 3 state or the Full Power Super Saiyan Rage state of Future Trunks. Before kicking it up to almost full-throttle with Super Saiyan God when Future Trunks reveals his new Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue form, then once the friendly spar ended in the victory of technically no one this time around from it ending in a draw, if Broly Black: BR, who would still have been injured, but mostly at his full power despite the many injuries SSJG or SSJB Future Trunks gave him, is able to follow Future Bulma, Future Trunks, and Future Mai into the past with his Time Ring, Son Goku would have took Broly Black: BR on as a Super Saiyan God before then going straight into Super Saiyan Blue moments before killing Broly Black: BR with a point-blank One-Inch Punch through the Adam’s Apple of Broly Black: BR and a God Kamehameha through the chest of Broly Black: BR, finishing the Future Trunks Arc off with everyone Future Android 17, Future Android 18, Future Cell (Imperfect Form), Future Dabura (Majin), and especially the vile likes of Broly Black: BR had all killed being brought back to life with the help of Super Shenron, or if in the case of the Manga, Vegeta would have been the one to have fought Broly Black: BR with Super Saiyan God in the Future Trunks Timeline and get to kill Broly Black: BR with his God Final Flash, with Son Goku and the others helping in collecting the Super Dragon Balls like in the Dragon Ball Super Anime in this particular scenario.Berserker1921 wrote:The new Broly and yeah sure.Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Which version of Broly? The original one from Dragon Ball Z or the more Kale-looking one from Dragon Ball Super: Broly?Berserker1921 wrote:1. What-if Zamasu stole Broly’s body instead of Goku?
2. What-if all the movie villains were canon? (Save for all three of the original Broly movies)? How would this affect the events forward into DBS? Also pretend that they fit into the timeline.
2) I suppose in Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone, the events of the very first movie of Dragon Ball Z can take place in the last month before the likes of Son Gohan would have been born, with this fact causing Son Goku to become more far serious than he was in the original timeline of the film in order to go and save his wife and unborn son from the clutches of Garlic Junior? With Garlic Junior and his men failing to summon Shenron from Son Goku arriving before all of them in a rage over them kidnapping his wife, son, and nearly killing his father-in-law. While Son Goku would have been at the least slightly weaker than his counterpart from the original Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone in this scenario, his overwhelmingly intense rage over the fact of being reminded of the evil Piccolo Daimaō and his two encounters with the Demon King from the wicked actions of Garlic Junior and Garlic Junior’s equally Demonic Minions, would have led to Son Goku receiving such a Rage-Boost, he would have been able to defeat the original three Cronies of Garlic Junior even before anyone of the three could have powered-up, but against the Spice Boys, Son Goku would have needed to completely lose himself in his righteous anger to have momentarily awakened his False Super Saiyan form to defeat the Spice Boys, however, the likes of Super Garlic Junior, who would have used the time it took for Son Goku to defeat his followers to transform, would have required Mr. Piccolo to arrive and help an exhausted Son Goku to take on and defeat the wannabe King of Demons and Guardian of Earth. If you would like me to continue, then please reply back.
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What-If Saiyans could access the great ape form in base? Before the planet was destroyed by Frieza? Would this have saved the Saiyan race? The form I am talking about is the same one that Broly did within the new movie.
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In the Tournament of Universe 6 vs. Universe 7 Saga, if Cabba was smart enough to have hid the fact he had a brown Saiyan tail to call his very own from Son Goku and Vegeta, the young Saiyan from the Sixth Universe of Dragon Ball Super would have had a very notable advantage against Vegeta (Saiyan Beyond God), forcing the God-like Saiyan to have gone Chou Super Saiyan to prevent the present gap in power he had with Cabba from becoming any bigger and begin showing absolute dominance over the Freedom Fighter, which would have led to Cabba awakening the Legendary Super Saiyan in him a moment before he would have been defeated by the point-blank God Big Bang Attack of Chou Super Saiyan Vegeta, enabling the reborn Cabba to recover from his near-defeat and start to regain his own previous advantage over the Universe Seven Saiyan, until Chou Super Saiyan Vegeta has had enough of remembering of just how effortless it had been for the likes of Fourth Form Frieza, Perfect Cell, Majin Buu, and Hakaishin Beerus to have handed him his arrogant ass by powering-up into Chou Super Saiyan 2 and taking down Super Saiyan Cabba in one-shot with his God Final Flash, then by the time Cabba would have met with his old friend, Renso, Cabba would have Full Power Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 under his belt, while Renso would not have been retired and actually would have had the balls to want to participate in the Tournament of Power. With Cabba being able to teach him to go Super Saiyan and Ascended Super Saiyan before the two would get going to go recruit the likes of Kale and Caulifla, the Legendary Saiyan of Universe 6 known as Kale would have discovered her Super Saiyan form much earlier than in canon from having possessed a tail all of her life, and Caulifla would have been motivated to awaken the same form a short time after Kale would have shown her the Super Saiyan transformation. Cabba would be able to go head-to-head with Kale and Caulifla in their base and Super Saiyan forms this time with just the use of his Full Power Super Saiyan form, but would have to flash into Super Saiyan 2 to defeat Super Saiyan Berserker Kale and Ascended Super Saiyan Caulifla. Upon Ruthless Final Form Frost no longer being needed for the Universe 6 Team and having been erased from existence by the Hakai of Hakaishin Champa, Cabba, Renso, Kale, and Caulifla at the Tournament of Power would have done a little better than they would have in canon. Cabba would have achieved Super Saiyan 3 for only a split-second against the female warrior responsible for having allowed him to have awakened Super Saiyan 2 in the canonical events of the Universal Survival Saga and it would have been more than enough to defeat her, his Super Saiyan 2 form would have been used to save himself from Vegeta (Saiyan Beyond God) and Fourth Form Frieza (Angel) respectively. But would have needed the help of Ascended Super Saiyan Renso, Super Saiyan Berserker Kale, and Ascended Super Saiyan Caulifla to have fought off the likes of Chou Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta and True Golden Frieza (Angel), with the four warriors from Universe 6 each having attacked Chou Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta with a powerful Super Galick Gun, Super Saiyan Light Blast, Super Gigantic Breath, and Super Crush Cannon respectively to have defeated the Saiyan Prince by knocking him out of the arena. However, in order to defeat the likes of True Golden Frieza (Angel), Kale and Caulifla would have needed to return to their respective base forms to their use their Potara Earrings to become Kefla, who in just her base form would mop the floor with the so-called Emperor of the Universe in an instant and then leave him out of bounds upon doing nothing more than finger-flicking him right out of True Golden Frieza. With Super Saiyan 2 Cabba and Ascended Super Saiyan Renso helping her, Kefla would turn the tide of the Tournament of Power in the favor of Universe 6 by taking on and defeating most of the competition of the other participating Universes, but would have to call a temporary truce with Universe 7 in order to take on Toppo and especially Jiren. By having Son Goku (Saiyan Beyond God) and Son Gohan borrow the Potara Earrings of Kefla to become Gokhan (Saiyan Beyond God), Mr. Piccolo using a temporary variation of the Namekian Fusion with the two other Super Namekians to become a Shin Namek, Android 17 and Android 18 borrowing the Potara Earrings to become Android 35, Cabba and Renso using the Potara Earrings to become an incredibly powerful new Saiyan warrior by the name of Canso, and Kefla transforming into her Ascended Super Saiyan Berserker form, all of the Fusion Warriors together would have forced Toppo to go into his Hakaishin Mode and Jiren to access his True Full Power. Even so, Gokhan simply transforming into his Super Saiyan God form would have one-shotted the likes of Hakaishin Toppo and Jiren (True Full Power) with such ease, the two strongest Pride Troopers would have been shocked at how easily they had been beaten. The Kaioshins, Hakaishins, Angels, Omni-King Guardsmen, Omni-Kings, and the Grand Priest would have been wiped out by the Warriors of Universe 6 and Universe 7 upon the erasure of Universe 11, so as to prevent anymore of their senseless destruction of innocents and to use the set of Dragon Balls on Earth and on New Namek respectively to undo all of the stupidity the deceased deities had caused to Universe 6 and Universe 7.Dragon Ball Gus wrote:What if the Universe 6 Saiyans had tails?
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What if Gero kidnapped Chichi pregnant and made her along with Gohan cyborg.
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Chichi is stronger more dangerous than 18 and kills Gero sooner.Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:What if Gero kidnapped Chichi pregnant and made her along with Gohan cyborg.
Gohan can't be cyborgised till his older as the androids age too slow. He would have to wait like 100 years to be able to attack with Gohan...
Launch and Yamcha would have been cooler cast members to change into androids.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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What do you make of this?Berserker1921 wrote:What-If Saiyans could access the great ape form in base? Before the planet was destroyed by Frieza? Would this have saved the Saiyan race? The form I am talking about is the same one that Broly did within the new movie.
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Only a select few Saiyans would have been able to control False Super Saiyan 4 at first, but with at least six months or more of using a transformation rivaling the power of the Super Saiyan Blue form, getting used to False Super Saiyan 4 would have been at least possible. Frieza and the rest of the Planet Trade Organization would have been completely killed-off when Frieza would have been forced to kill-off the Saiyans by orders from Beerus, only for Bardock: BR to have stopped the genocide this time around with the greatest of ease.Berserker1921 wrote:What do you make of this?Berserker1921 wrote:What-If Saiyans could access the great ape form in base? Before the planet was destroyed by Frieza? Would this have saved the Saiyan race? The form I am talking about is the same one that Broly did within the new movie.
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What if there were two groups of Saiyan survivors from U7 Planet Sadala, one settled on Planet Vegeta and the other settled on another planet?
That's how my Saiyan oc came to be, from the other planet.
That's how my Saiyan oc came to be, from the other planet.
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Try making him on aniroleplay.meHulk10 wrote:What if there were two groups of Saiyan survivors from U7 Planet Sadala, one settled on Planet Vegeta and the other settled on another planet?
That's how my Saiyan oc came to be, from the other planet.
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He's on my tumblr . He used to look like Goku but with Videl's hair but now I see him as looking more like Broly.Berserker1921 wrote:Try making him on aniroleplay.meHulk10 wrote:What if there were two groups of Saiyan survivors from U7 Planet Sadala, one settled on Planet Vegeta and the other settled on another planet?
That's how my Saiyan oc came to be, from the other planet.
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How about this scenario?
Instead of Freeza teaming up with Goku, 17 did instead and then Goku & 17 were able to eliminate Jiren from the ToP whilst eliminating themselves: leaving Freeza as the last one standing and the one to gain the wish from the Super DBs. Being the fiend that he is, Freeza wishes for immortality but the two Zenos declare that an unworthy wish and decide to erase everything. Daishinkan recognizes the severity of the situation and uses the last few seconds of existence to send Goku's mind back in time to his 12-year-old self in order to prevent such a bleak outcome.
Now here it is, what if Goku's ToP mind was sent back in time to the day before he met Bulma at the beginning of DB?
Instead of Freeza teaming up with Goku, 17 did instead and then Goku & 17 were able to eliminate Jiren from the ToP whilst eliminating themselves: leaving Freeza as the last one standing and the one to gain the wish from the Super DBs. Being the fiend that he is, Freeza wishes for immortality but the two Zenos declare that an unworthy wish and decide to erase everything. Daishinkan recognizes the severity of the situation and uses the last few seconds of existence to send Goku's mind back in time to his 12-year-old self in order to prevent such a bleak outcome.
Now here it is, what if Goku's ToP mind was sent back in time to the day before he met Bulma at the beginning of DB?
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What if the Star Wars galaxy had somehow been transported to U7, replacing the Milky Way galaxy and making Earth be an outer rim planet about one month before the beginning of Revenge of the Sith, and right after the Vegeta Fight/ before they leave for Namek?
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Hey guys remember the whole Superior Spiderman plot ??? What if we apply this plot to Dragon Ball.
In the main timeline everything goes alright until Goku die from his heart thingy, then Gero got the Dragon Ball before the pilaf gang, before wishing anything he send either Android 16 or Android 19 to retrieve Goku's body then call for the Dragon with the Dragon Ball and swap his body with Goku's one.
From this point what happen to the timeline ?
In the main timeline everything goes alright until Goku die from his heart thingy, then Gero got the Dragon Ball before the pilaf gang, before wishing anything he send either Android 16 or Android 19 to retrieve Goku's body then call for the Dragon with the Dragon Ball and swap his body with Goku's one.
From this point what happen to the timeline ?
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Wouldn’t that basically be like Goku Black? Also Gero isn’t a fighter. He wouldn’t be able fight very well, he isn’t a prodigy like Zamasu. So he wouldn’t be a good fighter. But he could modify goku’s body to be like an Android and it would be an issue.Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:Hey guys remember the whole Superior Spiderman plot ??? What if we apply this plot to Dragon Ball.
In the main timeline everything goes alright until Goku die from his heart thingy, then Gero got the Dragon Ball before the pilaf gang, before wishing anything he send either Android 16 or Android 19 to retrieve Goku's body then call for the Dragon with the Dragon Ball and swap his body with Goku's one.
From this point what happen to the timeline ?
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Well Gero is a scientist so having Goku's body he would want to study it so maybe he will do some training and see how the cells of a Saiyan work, I think Gero would through test and experiment let himself get into the Saiyan needs of fighting. So for me I see Gero programming androinds for training purpose whilst still studying his now own body.Berserker1921 wrote:Wouldn’t that basically be like Goku Black? Also Gero isn’t a fighter. He wouldn’t be able fight very well, he isn’t a prodigy like Zamasu. So he wouldn’t be a good fighter. But he could modify goku’s body to be like an Android and it would be an issue.Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:Hey guys remember the whole Superior Spiderman plot ??? What if we apply this plot to Dragon Ball.
In the main timeline everything goes alright until Goku die from his heart thingy, then Gero got the Dragon Ball before the pilaf gang, before wishing anything he send either Android 16 or Android 19 to retrieve Goku's body then call for the Dragon with the Dragon Ball and swap his body with Goku's one.
From this point what happen to the timeline ?
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What if Bulma and Yamcha never broke up, and Vegeta ended up with Launch instead? How would that effect the Android arc and onward?
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What-If In the Future Timeline, East Kaioshin found where Broly was located while training Trunks? Also let’s assume Paragus is dead by then as well. So how would Broly assist in the Future Timeline?