How powerful could Piccolo have gotten?

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Post by Rocketman » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:47 pm

Xyex wrote:I've played that game at least three dozen times and never knew that.... :?
I don't think it's Dende... when I played it, it was a chance to fuse with two warrior Nameks that you had the option to save earlier in the game.

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Post by Victator Supreme » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:46 pm

I thought those 3,000 PL Nameks were not warriors. That Nail was the only Warrior Namek left.

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Post by Xyex » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:26 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Xyex wrote:I've played that game at least three dozen times and never knew that.... :?
I don't think it's Dende... when I played it, it was a chance to fuse with two warrior Nameks that you had the option to save earlier in the game.
Well, even then, I don't know that either. I've only ever fused with Nail and I rescued those two every time I played.
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Post by Kodoshin » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:53 am

I'm pretty sure it was Dende, I've played through the game three times. It has been a while though.

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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:11 am

It definitely is Dende. When you're about to fight Freeza in his final form; you are givin to option to; either merge with Dende, or keep him for healing. If you don't merge, Freeza will take Dende out after a couple turns; but I think you get a good amount of Kami cards to replace his healing ability.

Dende boosted Piccolo's Bp to like 2,200,000.
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Post by Kenshi » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:44 am

Well, I actually did do a calculation of how certain fusions affect one's power in this way or another, and ended up thinking that the increase is proportional to the strength of the absorbee, which is pretty plausible if you ask me, seeing as the Nail absorbtion brought Piccolo to a point where he could feasibly hold his own against a Freeza who powered up from his 1,000,000+ level twice(I have the kanzenban that encompasses that fight, namely the 21st one, so I know that for fact), whereas before he was just a few days' worth of training(we see he arrives around when Goku got on his spaceship over to Namek, I believe) from the high 2,000s range where I believe he was in against Nappa, which I believe to be around a multiplier in the two hundreds. We know that while his next fusion did boost his power a lot, it wasn't nearly as much of a dramatic one, since as Duo mentioned before, he was already at a low SS-level power, and it wouldn't take much more than a 2-times multiplier to get him up to a level where he could do battle with #17. Since we know Nail's full battling capacity is at exactly 42,000, and Kamisama is at less than 400(he mentions that he was no match for Piccolo even in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, and Piccolo was at 408 when we see him later in Z) , that sounds pretty reasonable, though I could be overanalyzing the whole multiplier issue. After all, it was just a plot device for Toriyama to get Piccolo up to a point where he is temporarily above Goku and Vegeta, then have them surpass an opponent he was helpless against to attest to their power.

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Post by Xyex » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:24 am

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Dende boosted Piccolo's Bp to like 2,200,000.
Oh yeah, I did get that once or twice. I just never realized the cause. Usually it's 1,900,000, right?
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:27 pm

Xyex wrote:
Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Dende boosted Piccolo's Bp to like 2,200,000.
Oh yeah, I did get that once or twice. I just never realized the cause. Usually it's 1,900,000, right?
That is the usual Bp. My Piccolo was in the 2,000,000 because I trained him during those random battles with the henchmen, which would have Freeza (third form) in the battle, sometimes.
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Re: How powerful could Piccolo have gotten?

Post by Toriyama Boss » Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:50 pm

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote: If Piccolo merged with Kami in the Saiyan Saga, how powerful would he be at that point? For his power to increase as much as it did during the Android saga, it would have to do the same in the earlier sagas.
Wow, well Piccolo was already quite powerful in the Saiya-jin saga. If I can remember, Piccolo easily blew up the moon with his hand? I remember Roshi doing that in like the first tournament or something the announcer states that Roshi blew the moon up with a battle power around 300.
If anyone is willing could they give me the announcers explanation of how the moon was destroyed? Was the moon "vaporized" or "pulverized?" I think it is chapter 052: Volume 5.

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