Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Perhaps Fu or someone else as brilliant as him had been tinkering around with the Tuffle Twins to make them much more advanced than the likes of Baby? Or the two twin siblings may have assimilated a lifeform or two before making their own debut within the Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission Series?
Tbh they probably just thought "they look cool this way" but it's always cool to have some in-universe theories.
I now wonder, Baby had genes of Tuffle king, are those two just pure artifical beings or they also have Tuffle genes in them?
They seem to have completely different mentality than Baby who called himself a Tuffle and wanted to recreate this race. Kamin & Oren, according to what we already know, were made by Tuffles but were considered too strong and their creators tried to kill them. They might not care and do not identify themselves as part of this race.
mahakaishin1991 wrote:
To be fair the whole Vegeta getting the form via a machine annoyed me for a lot of reasons, the tail growing back and then vanishing was a big part of that, and it just feeling out of character for him to resort to it in the first place, but GT was ending and plot contrivance required a quicker method
Tail vanishing is indeed a mystery. But as i said, this method isn't just growing tail, it basically forces a transformation to Oozaru so after you lose it you revert to previous state. So it doesn't give you tail, it turns you into Oozaru that has tail by default. Otherwise, Bulma would probably just use it to grow tail and then let Vegeta turn Oozaru in natural way using moon or power ball, without any risk of going rampage. I now it's just a game, but Fu did similar thing in Xenoverse and turned DBS Goku and Vegeta into SSJ4's (with GT clothes lol) by a lot of Bruits waves and they lost tails when they turned back as well.
I don't think it's out of character, especially considering how much he has changed over years. Vegeta talks about pride, but he uses help all time. You could say that fake moon was also a cheat. He lacked tail so he used help to become Oozaru, but after that he achieved SSJ4 on his own (unlike Goku) and that's more important if you ask me. Getting help to turn into monkey isn't anything special and he would do it if he had tail anyway.