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This, plus in Creed II, he's shown to have dimension.Gaffer Tape wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:21 amI'm afraid I can't quite see that comparison. While they are both rather empty shells, at least Ivan Drago is actually intimidating. At least Ivan Drago, in killing Apollo, actually does something to emotionally affect the hero and the audience.
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I'd say GT also got pretty dark when the Earth was about to blow up with no plot device to over rule that decisionNokra wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 6:53 pm Its hard to find a show dark or even serious when there are 3 sets of dragonballs, each more powerful than the last just waiting around to be used. The History Of Trunks special was the only exception where the show was dark and there was tension/consequences because the dragonballs were gone and namek was out of reach.
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Meh I agree on some pointsTai Lung wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:51 amthat would only apply to the manga because in the anime many characters had skills or power to defeat jiren (tired) as in the end they did frieza and gokuBlock88 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:31 pmThat’s on toei awful writing overall in the TOP than just with jiren.Gaffer Tape wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:00 pm
See, Geran never even felt terribly threatening to me. The show seemed to think that just the fact that he existed was threatening. However, the situation itself never makes good on that. He literally sits on ass for awhile. Towards the end game he is constantly outnumbered. In any other situation, that would still be threatening, as his overwhelming strength would outmatch their superior numbers. However, the tournament format means that everything revolves around team numbers and time. So the fact that Universe 7 always has superior numbers and are therefore always winning dilutes the tension. The fact that nobody in Geran's universe acts with any urgency further dilutes the tension, culminating in the most ridiculous action possible: Vermoud wasting time by expositing Geran's backstory. All Universe 7 really has to do is run out the clock. Geran's overwhelming strength and ability to take down practically anybody else should have made him terrifying, an unstoppable Terminator picking people off one by one. But since he can't be bothered to give a shit, he really doesn't elicit any kind of strong reaction.
Realistically jiren should’ve flex half of the contestants off the arena but they had to stall to showcase the other fighters in the tourney even though most of them were trash in the end.
Even excluding that most of the universe should’ve focused on getting rid of him first than fighting goku and u7.
the problem is that if you compare to jiren that only has power with other characters who had skills or secret mergers is one of the most basic
the point of making the friends and enemies of goku necessary to win in the end does not bother me even though many want to see it as trite I really think it is more interesting if we see it from the point of view of the growth of goku against part of Jiren that was formed as someone who should be invincible
jiren is like ivan drago really but it is story a bit old with the current time but if it fulfills its function
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Both the super manga and anime are painfully mediocre.
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Sorry, i ve watched one of movies on Youtube, and i somehow missed it was just speculation
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i have tried to avoid most super stuff just because i have no interest, but isn't this like a common sentiment ? it seems like the overall consensus on super is "eh".
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Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:54 ami have tried to avoid most super stuff just because i have no interest, but isn't this like a common sentiment ? it seems like the overall consensus on super is "eh".
Super seems incredibly polarizing. I’ve seen a lot of people outside of Kanzenshuu who love it. Then there are those who hate it and those who are just lukewarm.
It’s easily the most divisive Dragon Ball series to be honest.
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yeah i guess i've mainly just seen people say it's ok or that it has a lot of good stuff but also a bunch of crap so they think it's just alright overall.
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The problem is that it plays things way too safe and won't get out of Z's nostalgic shadow.Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:54 ami have tried to avoid most super stuff just because i have no interest, but isn't this like a common sentiment ? it seems like the overall consensus on super is "eh".
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sintzu wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:08 amThe problem is that it plays things way too safe and won't get out of Z's nostalgic shadow.Soppa Saia People wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:54 ami have tried to avoid most super stuff just because i have no interest, but isn't this like a common sentiment ? it seems like the overall consensus on super is "eh".
It seems way more slice of life than Z.
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There's that as well. I do hope that 2uper will be able to change things up and move away from the Z image Super 0.1 was stuck with.
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I find Super to be more of a fun series than one with a great, compelling story. I'd like it to have some of the latter, but its still one hell of a ride when you don't take it to seriously and just want to be entertained.
Hard to say what we will get from 2uper. I think there's a good chance it will have better animation on a more consistent basis as I'm sure TOEI is no doubt aware of the backlash the original Super got, particularly in episode 5. In terms of story, I'll wait till we hear what future arcs will be about as that will be the make or break point. Hoping we'll at least get a Moro adaptation.
While on the subject, rewatching it in the dub has reminded me the Tournament of Power is the second most boring arc next to Black Star Dragon Balls. Just a chore to sit through.
Hard to say what we will get from 2uper. I think there's a good chance it will have better animation on a more consistent basis as I'm sure TOEI is no doubt aware of the backlash the original Super got, particularly in episode 5. In terms of story, I'll wait till we hear what future arcs will be about as that will be the make or break point. Hoping we'll at least get a Moro adaptation.
While on the subject, rewatching it in the dub has reminded me the Tournament of Power is the second most boring arc next to Black Star Dragon Balls. Just a chore to sit through.
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TOEI also knows they have no reason to give a shit about how it looks because people will still buy and consume the product out of some desire for brand loyalty.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:30 am . I think there's a good chance it will have better animation on a more consistent basis as I'm sure TOEI is no doubt aware of the backlash the original Super got, particularly in episode 5. In terms of story, I'll wait till we hear what future arcs will be about as that will be the make or break point. Hoping we'll at least get a Moro adaptation.
I guarantee the majority of people who criticized Super’s animation watched most or all of the series and probably a lot of them bought the merchandise too.
TOEI gets your money either way.
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oh jeez the episode 5 controversy and the stuff with yanami being sick, that was not the greatest way too start off a new series.
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The animation was god awful, but it was a single episode. If brand loyalty is the reason people keep watching, it's not to TOEI, it's to DB.
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But to knock it as brand loyalty seems awfully condescending. People are loyal to brands because they like what they have or had to offer.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
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