Xyex wrote:Sean Schemmel, on the Japanese theme song "Head-Cha-La":
"Head-Cha-La," for another example and I've told you this Jon, even though it's very catchy, it's absolutely ridiculous for the American culture. (thumbs down Schemmel. Shakes angry fist)
What? He's right, you know. Have you even seen the lyrics? They song's fun and catchy but it's absolutely
absurd and really doesn't fit with the show. If they'd have dubbed it or left it as is wth subs.... 85% of the audience would have laughed at it and changed the channel.
Hm, song implies a child's wonder with the world and complete lack of worries...
Gohan is an innocent child who is fascinated with the world, and Goku shares a similar innocent view of the world and seemingly has no worries...
Yep! Doesn't fit with the show in the least ;p
Sonny Strait, North American VA for Krillin, on FUNimation's new music score:
I think the main thing about them not using the original music, and I could be wrong, is because of the dated factor of it...But uh, there's definitely an appeal to it, but I don't think that it's as wide a range of appeal as what they want. I mean, people like you, and others that are die-hard anime fans are definitely gonna want as much of the original as possible, but I think the general population is more entertained by screaming guitars and such.
Another solid point. Loud rock music = popular. Orchastrated non rock music = not as popular.
Uh...the BGM that FUNimation had composed was
not rock music. I take offense to the suggestion as a musician. At best it was uber generic faux-techno/rock/mishmash.
Composer Bruce Faulconer, on the music:
They wanted music that would better communicate to a Western audience the drama of this saga.
And again, correct.
I think the score to a Tiger handheld conveys drama moreso than Faulconer's score. Faulconer was painfully pretentious, and his music had the depth of a kiddy pool. Reading the
interview he gave back in the Planet Namek days is evidence enough of his ego.
I mean seriously, "
I know about as much as you can know about 2,000 years of musical history"? He must have thrown out his back from sucking his own dick so hard...say, I wonder what all his grand mastery of music and composition has gotten him in terms of projects?
Oh, right.
Jack shit. If you read carefully, it appears the only thing he's actually
composed with regularity is DragonBall Z. The rest are credited for "sound design" and production in general, save for small bits here and there (and his only CD's appear to be DragonBall Z related).
And, of course, just before Gohan goes SS2, we hear Gohan's "dub" thoughts when the original only had Spirit vs. Spirit playing.
Which was an improvement, as far as I was concerned. Nothing but the BGM there was a bad choice on Toei's part. Lack of connection to a character reduces emotional impact~
..."nothing but the BGM was a bad choice on Toei's part"? I think you meant nothing but the BGM was a
good choice on Toei's part.
Personally, and this is just me, I don't need everything to be said
at me. To me, especially with animation, a lot can be said visually, musically, etc. It's the whole point of using such a medium.
The scene said plenty, especially since the past few episodes had been building toward the moment. We knew what was happening. We heard Gohan's inner monologue, we saw his attempts to remain in control because he knew letting the rage win would make him kill Cell. We saw #16 tell him to "let [his] angry spirit be free" and that "there is no need to hold back any longer." Then...we saw him let go. Gohan ceased to exist because he let the rage overtake him, basically until his father died to save the world.
Why do we need to hear, "Oh, hey.
Now I'm pissed. I'm not taking this anymore. I'm slipping. HOARG."? What does that add in terms of emotional impact? Did we
really not know Gohan was pissed? Was the complete look of shock on his face not enough? The scream that people bill as the best in DragonBall Z? Seriously?
Better yet, let me ask this: Someone gets murdered right in front of you while they're pleading to you to let go and fight. Do you thinking about how you should let go and fight, or do you just...well, fucking lose it? Moreover, which is genuinely more emotional? At least with Goku, both in the Japanese and English, his reaction to Kuririn's death was more of an enraged rambling than a concise, "You killed my friend. I'm getting pissed. Really pissed. I'm letting go. I'm slipping. Grr." type of statement/monologue.
Just my thoughts on the subject.
-Corey
. Though I appreciate that the took the new DBZ stuff in a different direction... I think most of the new "orchestrated" stuff falls into the realm of "generic forgettable stuff" that Kunzait nailed.
