Super Saiyan 4 Evolution

[Hulk10]

That thing wouldnt male sense at all. Ssj4 Is described as a form that brings out every last bit of hidden potential from the Saiyan that uses the form, do a further Evolution Is completely impossible by the official standards

Good point. Its a pity that so many people undervalue the form.

[theherodjl]

That thing wouldnt male sense at all. Ssj4 Is described as a form that brings out every last bit of hidden potential from the Saiyan that uses the form, do a further Evolution Is completely impossible by the official standards

SSJ3 was also described as taking a Saiyan to it's limits...yet SSJ4 strolled in and then we also saw an improved version of that in the form of Full Power SSJ4. There's never an absolutely-definitely-indisputably-final form as long as fighters can continue to improve. I imagine that God Ki-Full Power SSJ4 Limits Surpassed Evolution Grade 4 is a possibility so as long as Goku & Vegeta continue to meet opponents who continue to push them.

[p-hyvo]

That thing wouldnt male sense at all. Ssj4 Is described as a form that brings out every last bit of hidden potential from the Saiyan that uses the form, do a further Evolution Is completely impossible by the official standards

SSJ3 was also described as taking a Saiyan to it's limits...yet SSJ4 strolled in and then we also saw an improved version of that in the form of Full Power SSJ4. There's never an absolutely-definitely-indisputably-final form as long as fighters can continue to improve. I imagine that God Ki-Full Power SSJ4 Limits Surpassed Evolution Grade 4 is a possibility so as long as Goku & Vegeta continue to meet opponents who continue to push them.

Lets say that ssj3 Is the Canon/Natural limit to the ssj Power, because ssj4 Is more difficult ti obtain and isnt a natural Evolution of ssj3. Just by training, if you are ssj3 youll never tap into ssj4 by yourself

[theherodjl]

Lets say that ssj3 Is the Canon/Natural limit to the ssj Power, because ssj4 Is more difficult ti obtain and isnt a natural Evolution of ssj3. Just by training, if you are ssj3 youll never tap into ssj4 by yourself

Right. What I'm saying is that SSJ forms don't have a definitive limit because there's always something else to achieve and/or improve upon. A Saiyan with SSJ/SSJ2/SSJ3 can never become a SSJ4 without a tail but they can become SSJG/SSJB with enough training as Vegeta demonstrated. Then there's also Trunks having developed a more potent version of SSJ2(manga) as well as a pseudo-SSJB form(anime).

[Hulk10]

Lets say that ssj3 Is the Canon/Natural limit to the ssj Power, because ssj4 Is more difficult ti obtain and isnt a natural Evolution of ssj3. Just by training, if you are ssj3 youll never tap into ssj4 by yourself

Right. What I'm saying is that SSJ forms don't have a definitive limit because there's always something else to achieve and/or improve upon. A Saiyan with SSJ/SSJ2/SSJ3 can never become a SSJ4 without a tail but they can become SSJG/SSJB with enough training as Vegeta demonstrated. Then there's also Trunks having developed a more potent version of SSJ2(manga) as well as a pseudo-SSJB form(anime).

Yeah a tail is necessary to acheive the form naturally. Once you achieve it. Why bother achieving a newer one when you can just train to fully utilize that form since its so powerful.

[Mad Swami]

Super Saiyan 4 has a good sense of finality to it and I think having Super Saiyan 4.5 wouldn't work. Personally I like it as the last form for the heroes(in it's own continuity) Also check out the post I made about it, I'm curious what you guys might think

[Hulk10]

Super Saiyan 4 has a good sense of finality to it and I think having Super Saiyan 4.5 wouldn't work. Personally I like it as the last form for the heroes(in it's own continuity) Also check out the post I made about it, I'm curious what you guys might think

What post if I may be so bold as to ask?

[Psajdak]

Tail or not, and I'm not sure how much they retconned it, but at the time it was first shown, I am quite sure that SS4 really was supposed to be evolution of SS3, with Golden Ozaru being basically Super Saiyan Ozaru, and also basis for SS4.

[Hulk10]

Tail or not, and I'm not sure how much they retconned it, but at the time it was first shown, I am quite sure that SS4 really was supposed to be evolution of SS3, with Golden Ozaru being basically Super Saiyan Ozaru, and also basis for SS4.

Hmm interesting hypothesis.