Unpopular DB opinions

[MyVisionity]

Does the racism really count towards making a film terrible? Regardless, I thought it was a decent attempt at a Batman adaptation minus the production values. Burton and Schumacher could have learned a thing or two from them at least.

What exactly made them a decent attempt at a Batman adaptation but not the Burton/Schumacher films?

Burton/Schumacher had great production values but the characterization and setting was not particularly faithful to the books, especially compared to the 40s serials.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

Kamiccolo would have been a boss name.

[Kamiccolo9]

Kamiccolo would have been a boss name.

Say what now?

[Novantico]

I wish Goku were a more sinister battle junkie (like HxH's Hisoka) instead of Peter Griffin, Kung Fu Master. What I find most fun about selfish, amoral (and I do mean amoral as opposed to immoral) characters is just how they warp what would otherwise be "good" ideals and play with how the world expects things/people to work.

Goku doesn't really twist anything. He's just a lousy dad (according to Toriyama. I think he's decent) with no idea how to function in society. I don't really find it endearing (I did when he was a kid but that might have been because I could relate to being thrown into a world that was a lot bigger than I expected) and I consistently find myself wishing he'd double down on his selfishness.

Imagining Goku like Hisoka makes me moist. Also I didn't know that Toriyama thought Goku was a bad father. Do you know when/where he said it? I'm genuinely surprised since I don't find it super difficult to justify his behavior/actions/circumstances in that regard.

As for his inability to function in society, you might not find it endearing, but what do you want? He doesn't get enough exposure. He knows how to not make a scene, be polite and all that, which I think is sufficient. As for whether it's endearing, I think it is, usually. I adore whenever there's some vaguely slice of life stuff happening.

[Novantico]

Is it still an unpopular opinion to think Goku's actually a pretty good father? If it isn't, my b. If it is, fight me.

[Cure Dragon 255]

I think so too. I despise DBZ Abridged. They may not be the first to push that narrative, but they are certainly the most infuriating.

[sunsetshimmer]

Yea, DBZ Abridged sucks imo. That thing was maybe funny for few first episodes.

[Cure Dragon 255]

God if I didnt like you before, I love you now!

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

Imagining Goku like Hisoka makes me moist. Also I didn't know that Toriyama thought Goku was a bad father. Do you know when/where he said it? I'm genuinely surprised since I don't find it super difficult to justify his behavior/actions/circumstances in that regard.

I don't speak Japanese so I'm going off the summaries provided by Twitter user Cipher who goes by the same on this site. Toriyama doesn't think much of Goku's parenting skills which, to me at least, fits with his sense of humor. I still think Toriyama is misremembering his own character (I'll never be able to forget Goku, world champion and vanquisher of the Red Ribbon Army, begging Raditz to spare his child) but it is what it is. Writers often change their minds about things as a series develops. Unavoidable for a manga that ran as long as DB.

[Beiga]

I guess my unpopular opinion is that I think Toriyama's modern artstyle is way better than his old style. I'm not a fan of the Artificial Humans>Boo-saga designs where everyone is super sharp and musclebound.

His more cartoony art is just flat out more appealing to me.

Also, I can't staaaaand Goku's gi from the Artificial Humans->Boo arcs without the 悟 kanji. It looks incomplete to me. This is less of an unpopular opinion than a pet peeve, though I do think in general the fanbase loves the kanji-less look. At least if fanart is any indication.

[GhostEmperorX]

Bardock and Goku should have been voiced by Akira Kamiya in the Japanese version.

[Scsigs]

I guess my unpopular opinion is that I think Toriyama's modern artstyle is way better than his old style. I'm not a fan of the Artificial Humans>Boo-saga designs where everyone is super sharp and musclebound.

His more cartoony art is just flat out more appealing to me.

Also, I can't staaaaand Goku's gi from the Artificial Humans->Boo arcs without the 悟 kanji. It looks incomplete to me. This is less of an unpopular opinion than a pet peeve, though I do think in general the fanbase loves the kanji-less look. At least if fanart is any indication.

I don't know if the majority prefers Goku with or without the kanji on his Gi. Personally, I don't care what he has, since it's rarely brought up or important in the material itself & just serves as a patches on a piece of his clothing. And, if you don't speak Japanese or do a bit of research, it means nothing to you. Eventually, Goku just sort of became his own teacher anyways, so I think it's ok if he doesn't have it.

Bardock and Goku should have been voiced by Akira Kamiya in the Japanese version.

I just think Nozawa shouldn't voice anyone in DB but Goku because her voice can be kind of annoying & there's barely any differences in how she plays then unless you watch the show very closely or multiple times, or if you're fluent in Japanese.

[ABED]

You can easily tell the difference between her Goku and Gohan and Bardock. The energy from each is completely different.

[Soppa Saia People]

I guess my unpopular opinion is that I think Toriyama's modern artstyle is way better than his old style. I'm not a fan of the Artificial Humans>Boo-saga designs where everyone is super sharp and musclebound.

His more cartoony art is just flat out more appealing to me.

i think his art is still fine in the cell arc, yeah i don't like it as much as the early stuff but it's not like awful, but i really can't stand the boo arc artstyle. it's not really appealing at all, and most of the time it looks really poorly drawn, especially once ultimate gohan arrives, the art just takes a nose dive. post dragon ball toriyama art has its fair share of issues, but i do like it more then the boo arc stuff. most of his work for the dragon quest games still looks pretty good.

and yeah, no kanji on ANYBODY by the boo arc rolls around has always annoyed the crap out of me, but my main issue with cell arc goku and on is the belt, it's so wide and dumb looking lol.

You can easily tell the difference between her Goku and Gohan and Bardock. The energy from each is completely different.

this has been discussed to death but yeah, nozawa's performances tone and delivery wise are all pretty different.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

I don't know if the majority prefers Goku with or without the kanji on his Gi. Personally, I don't care what he has, since it's rarely brought up or important in the material itself & just serves as a patches on a piece of his clothing. And, if you don't speak Japanese or do a bit of research, it means nothing to you. Eventually, Goku just sort of became his own teacher anyways, so I think it's ok if he doesn't have it.

I wouldn't care about the kanji except that it's one of the few pieces of symbolism in the series. In every other instance where DB wants us to know Goku has attained yet another supreme level of power it's by having the worthless gaggle of jobbers that make up the cast stand around and gawk at just how high his battle power is.

[Beiga]

Yeah, I like the kanji on the gi because I actually did look up the meaning of it. It's not only the first part of Goku's name, but it was given to him by Kaio-sama as a way of showing Goku has surpassed any master and is his own man now. It literally means "to understand," which I think is a cool nod to the fact that while socially inept, Goku is a martial arts savant. He really is a genius when it comes to technique and tactics despite any personal failings he has. With it gone, it also makes hi gi clash next to Kuririn and Yamcha too.

My theory is that the only reason Toriyama nixed it is that, being a specific kanji, and a fairly complicated one at that, he needed to always make sure that it was consistently drawn from every angle as well as taking any battle damage into account. Basically, like Goku's tail, Toriyama became too lazy to keep it around. I think the fact that starting the second he no longer had to draw the manga weekly, Toriyama reincorporated the kanji into all of his Goku drawings. Drawing it for one piece of promo art is no big deal. It's keeping it consistent that was a pain.

It's funny though, because in the same arc that he removed the kanji, he also introduced Cell's spots.

Also, in regards to Goku's different belt styles, that's one where I really don't mind how it's drawn, but I guess if I had to pick one, it'd be the one he wears from the Artificial Humans arc until DBS: Broly just because it's what I'm used to seeing. But I like the old style belt too!

[GhostEmperorX]

You can easily tell the difference between her Goku and Gohan and Bardock. The energy from each is completely different.

Well then for at least Bardock alone it would have been better if Kamiya voiced him (or got any other important role in the series). It would work out a lot since the only real similarity he has with Goku aside being his father is the appearance. Other than that he's just about completely different.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

Is there any specific reason why Nozawa voices Goku's whole line (except for Raditz)? Like is there some kind of theme behind it? Sorry if this is a stupid question but it's just weird to me that one person is called on to voice every character in a single family.

[Lionel]

Some unpopular opinions...

1. I prefer the human fighters to virtually every Saiyan. I find their technique repertoire and battles early on to be more entertaining than the transformation smorgasbord that's come to define DBZ and the franchise up until now.

2. Kaioken is my preferred power increase method. I enjoy it more than any of the Super Saiyan transformations.

3. Besides just Yamcha who is commonly asked about for making a return, I wish Chaozu could be given some meaningful development. The full team roster hasn't been present since the Saiyan arc.

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

3. Besides just Yamcha who is commonly asked about for making a return, I wish Chaozu could be given some meaningful development. The full team roster hasn't been present since the Saiyan arc.

I have no idea how everyone seems to struggle with giving Chiaotzu things to do. He's a psychic. The whole point of psychics is that they bypass physical strength. Have him blind enemies or see things that aren't there. Have him throw "force" punches that are totally invisible and undetectable. The fact that he's physically weak makes him even more useful from a writing perspective as all your villain needs to do is get in one or two solid hits to make him go down.

At least fanfic writers like Chiaotzu