Dragon Ball gt characters stronger than super characters feats wise

[SupremeKai25]

merged zamasu becoming a planet no explanation for that.

Not really, it was explained that it was his immortality allowing him to survive after his body was destroyed and latch onto the fabric of the cosmos.

No other character with immortality could do that, wtf?

Do you know any other character who was granted immortality by the Super Dragon Balls?

[theherodjl]

Goku did it while in hell if I remember right, I'll have to rewatch to find it again. Baby gets stronger for every person he goes into Ginyu doesn't so controlling the Earth is equal to absorbing the power of a spirit bomb, he used everyone's power on top of this to make him even stronger. Considering golden oozaru stomped baby that means ssj4 power is insane, and Omega shenron stomping 2 ssj4's is crazier. Not necessarily, we don't know how the shadow dragon's body functions, considering he did fine against ssj4 I'm sure he would be fine.

Goku never shook the universe in any media prior to DBS so you probably are remembering it wrong.
And Baby achieving peak strength with Vegeta's body means...what? The characters of DBS are far stronger than GT Vegeta & the Shadow Dragons so you're not stating anything extraordinary.

[Perfect Garret]

Not really, it was explained that it was his immortality allowing him to survive after his body was destroyed and latch onto the fabric of the cosmos.

No other character with immortality could do that, wtf?

Do you know any other character who was granted immortality by the Super Dragon Balls?

Merged zamasu lost his immortality because, he fused with Goku black, no.

[SupremeKai25]

No other character with immortality could do that, wtf?

Do you know any other character who was granted immortality by the Super Dragon Balls?

Merged zamasu lost his immortality because, he fused with Goku black, no.

He never lost the immortality of his soul, and indeed Infinite Zamasu looks like Future Zamasu and not the Fused one, he only inherited a semi-invincible body due to Goku Black.

[Perfect Garret]

Goku did it while in hell if I remember right, I'll have to rewatch to find it again. Baby gets stronger for every person he goes into Ginyu doesn't so controlling the Earth is equal to absorbing the power of a spirit bomb, he used everyone's power on top of this to make him even stronger. Considering golden oozaru stomped baby that means ssj4 power is insane, and Omega shenron stomping 2 ssj4's is crazier. Not necessarily, we don't know how the shadow dragon's body functions, considering he did fine against ssj4 I'm sure he would be fine.

Goku never shook the universe in any media prior to DBS so you probably are remembering it wrong.
And Baby achieving peak strength with Vegeta's body means...what? The characters of DBS are far stronger than GT Vegeta & the Shadow Dragons so you're not stating anything extraordinary.

I don't think so, he went into the whole entire race of Earth's body that's a insane power boost. I don't see any proof that super characters are stronger than gt.

[Perfect Garret]

Do you know any other character who was granted immortality by the Super Dragon Balls?

Merged zamasu lost his immortality because, he fused with Goku black, no.

He never lost the immortality of his soul, and indeed Infinite Zamasu looks like Future Zamasu and not the Fused one, he only inherited a semi-invincible body due to Goku Black.

That makes no sense the soul can't exist without the body.

[SupremeKai25]

Merged zamasu lost his immortality because, he fused with Goku black, no.

He never lost the immortality of his soul, and indeed Infinite Zamasu looks like Future Zamasu and not the Fused one, he only inherited a semi-invincible body due to Goku Black.

That makes no sense the soul can't exist without the body.

Not really.... in many works of fiction a character can endure in a bodiless state. This isn't anything new at all. And anyway his new body was the cosmos itself because he latched onto its fabric after he let go of his mortal body.

[theherodjl]

I don't think so, he went into the whole entire race of Earth's body that's a insane power boost. I don't see any proof that super characters are stronger than gt.

That's because you're willfully ignoring & downplaying Super's strength gains & feats and making a troll thread to hype up GT. Making threads like these are against the rules and are usually locked soon afterwards, don't be surprised if that happens.

[SupremeKai25]

Also I want to point out that SSJ2 Trunks was not contending with Black, or rather, Black in his base form was easily stomping him already at the beginning of the arc and never killed him because he wanted to use him as foil to get stronger. Future Zamasu was also on par with SSJ2 Trunks because we know he was stronger than Present Zamasu, who was already SSJ2 tier. The only reason why SSJ2 Trunks ever got hits on Zamasu is because he wants to get hit and revel in his invincibility.

[Perfect Garret]

I don't think so, he went into the whole entire race of Earth's body that's a insane power boost. I don't see any proof that super characters are stronger than gt.

That's because you're willfully ignoring & downplaying Super's strength gains & feats and making a troll thread to hype up GT. Making threads like these are against the rules and are usually locked soon afterwards, don't be surprised if that happens.

Not really, I watched all of super they don't seem so impressive. So being a gt fan is against rules, and is trolling, good to know how bias people here are, thanks I feel welcomed.

[Perfect Garret]

Also I want to point out that SSJ2 Trunks was not contending with Black, or rather, Black in his base form was easily stomping him already at the beginning of the arc and never killed him because he wanted to use him as foil to get stronger. Zamasu was also on par with SSJ2 Trunks because we know he was stronger than Present Zamasu, who was SSJ2 tier. The only reason why SSJ2 Trunks ever got hits on Zamasu is because he wants to get hit and revel in his invincibility.

Merged zamasu being defeated by ssj2 trunks makes no sense.

[SupremeKai25]

Also I want to point out that SSJ2 Trunks was not contending with Black, or rather, Black in his base form was easily stomping him already at the beginning of the arc and never killed him because he wanted to use him as foil to get stronger. Zamasu was also on par with SSJ2 Trunks because we know he was stronger than Present Zamasu, who was SSJ2 tier. The only reason why SSJ2 Trunks ever got hits on Zamasu is because he wants to get hit and revel in his invincibility.

Merged zamasu being defeated by ssj2 trunks makes no sense.

It was not SSJ2 Trunks but Super Saiyan Rage Trunks, also he was exhausted after fighting SSB Vegito and was falling apart both physically and mentally (he was also possibly losing strength). Furthermore Trunks only disrupted his regeneration permanently, he never destroyed him, and indeed Fused Zamasu kept talking after he was cleaved in half.

[theherodjl]

Not really, I watched all of super they don't seem so impressive. So being a gt fan is against rules, and is trolling, good to know how bias people here are, thanks I feel welcomed.

Considering that you have said GT Goku can shake & destroy the universe without any evidence other than a false memory of him doing so, your ability to be objective is not at all impressive.
Being a GT fan isn't against the rules, making a thread that deliberately craps on DBS for the purposes of favoring GT is. Your own bias has been beyond obvious and you're not at all justified in being indignant about it.
Quit being a child.

[Perfect Garret]

Not really, I watched all of super they don't seem so impressive. So being a gt fan is against rules, and is trolling, good to know how bias people here are, thanks I feel welcomed.

Considering that you have said GT Goku can shake & destroy the universe without any evidence other than a false memory of him doing so, your ability to be objective is not at all impressive.
Being a GT fan isn't against the rules, making a thread that deliberately craps on DBS for the purposes of favoring GT is. Your own bias has been beyond obvious and you're not at all justified in being indignant about it.
Quit being a child.

Just have to rewatch gt to see it, saying Gt characters are stronger because, the plot is more consistent on power scaling on gt is not crapping on any thing, calling someone a child is not very mature.

[sunsetshimmer]

Are we just going to forget about SSJG Goku & Beerus causing universe-shaking shockwaves from colliding punches? Or a beam struggle that was fixing to destroy the universe had Beerus not cancelled it out? No one in GT even remotely caused damage to the same degree, the closest was Kid Goku's kamehameha blowing open a hole in Sugoro's already-crumbling dimension.
DBS characters hold a massive advantage over GT characters in power & feats.

That universe shaking never made sense. Goku in later arcs is more powerful + he has SSJB and nothing even close to that thing ever happened again. Even when Vegito SSJB and Fused Zamasu clashed their fists nothing happened. They didn't even destroy a city for a entire fight.

Pan fighting with rildo
a giant damages bread in the tournament
Videl kicks pan
a human hits goten
trunks base knocks down baby ozaru

Goku base defeats super 17
Goku base "dying" endures the attacks of omega shenron
a seagull gets pecked at oceanus shenron etc

the arguments you use are as bad as these

gt is equally inconsistent or more

Everything you mentioned except for Goku enduring Omega's attack had logic explanation actually. Still, you can't say that Goku tanking all those attacks doesn't make sense as entire ending of GT was a mystery and it's not like Omega wasn't surprised by him still being alive. A fact that Goku left with shenron and left his clothes implies that Goku during that scene wasn't just the same person he was before.

-Rildo was holding back and wasn't expecting a little girl to have any power since they only caught Goku and Trunks and measured their power. And how exactly did she "fight" him? She punched him, then he stood up and tanked next punch like it was nothing
-Giant made her bleed but didn't hurt her
-Pan was unaware of Videl. The same situation as SSJ Goku getting hurt by a rock.
-The human who punched Goten was possesed by Baby + Goten was unaware
-Once again, Baby was unaware since he didn't expect anyone to attack him. Everyone was his follower and Goku had no power. Also Trunks didn't hurt him. Baby was standing on one leg which made him lose balance
-The key to beat Super 17 wasn't just power and Super 17 was completely open for an attack
-Oceanus wasn't hurt but distracted and it was once again surprise attack

[VegettoEX]

Rather than flaming each other back and forth over pedantic definitions of "trolling" and "fanboy" and whatnot, and rather than submitting moderation tickets that make it a larger mess than it actually is, you can simply choose to not post and not respond to specific people when you see something you don't want to get involved with.

These posts are are also so poorly written that it's difficult to even really assess the situation. I understand completely that English may not be a native language for one or more of you, but that fact combined with the childish insult-flinging back-and-forth makes it nigh impossible to parse what's even happening here.

That part of your conversation is over - move on. Thank you!

[Polyphase Avatron]

How about we just say that both series are inconsistent and have contradictory low and high-ends?

[Tai Lung]

There are little to no training sessions of super characters training they just happen to be strong. It makes perfect sense, uub trained with Goku to become strong. Càulifla being able to fight super Saiyan God Goku made no sense,

we never see uub training ... and he still could face baby
caulifla was humiliated by goku ssjgod .... and at least we see her training with goku and like goten and trunks a lot of potential was born something that in the manga is seen as coherent

super is just a lazy cash grab that doesn't explain it's plot that well for power ups.

the author decided to continue the series with super was not the case of GT where he decided to leave the series so is a lazy cash grab ...

but hey ... with this I'm just copying your logic to me that kind of argument is just crying

[Mad Swami]

Well let's put it like this. Goku in GT base is relative to Kid Buu. At best we'll say in base he is equal to SSJ3 from Buu saga. However, in Super Goku's base is equal to SSG from BoG. SSG from Bog is universal and>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SSJ3. So no, Gt characters are fodder to main players. However if you compare GT Piccolo to Super Piccolo, you can make the argument Gt Piccolo is stronger. However he's the only one really

[Tai Lung]

Are we just going to forget about SSJG Goku & Beerus causing universe-shaking shockwaves from colliding punches? Or a beam struggle that was fixing to destroy the universe had Beerus not cancelled it out? No one in GT even remotely caused damage to the same degree, the closest was Kid Goku's kamehameha blowing open a hole in Sugoro's already-crumbling dimension.
DBS characters hold a massive advantage over GT characters in power & feats.

That universe shaking never made sense. Goku in later arcs is more powerful + he has SSJB and nothing even close to that thing ever happened again. Even when Vegito SSJB and Fused Zamasu clashed their fists nothing happened. They didn't even destroy a city for a entire fight.

Pan fighting with rildo
a giant damages bread in the tournament
Videl kicks pan
a human hits goten
trunks base knocks down baby ozaru

Goku base defeats super 17
Goku base "dying" endures the attacks of omega shenron
a seagull gets pecked at oceanus shenron etc

the arguments you use are as bad as these

gt is equally inconsistent or more

Everything you mentioned except for Goku enduring Omega's attack had logic explanation actually. Still, you can't say that Goku tanking all those attacks doesn't make sense as entire ending of GT was a mystery and it's not like Omega wasn't surprised by him still being alive. A fact that Goku left with shenron and left his clothes implies that Goku during that scene wasn't just the same person he was before.

-Rildo was holding back and wasn't expecting a little girl to have any power since they only caught Goku and Trunks and measured their power. And how exactly did she "fight" him? She punched him, then he stood up and tanked next punch like it was nothing
-Giant made her bleed but didn't hurt her
-Pan was unaware of Videl. The same situation as SSJ Goku getting hurt by a rock.
-The human who punched Goten was possesed by Baby + Goten was unaware
-Once again, Baby was unaware since he didn't expect anyone to attack him. Everyone was his follower and Goku had no power. Also Trunks didn't hurt him. Baby was standing on one leg which made him lose balance
-The key to beat Super 17 wasn't just power and Super 17 was completely open for an attack
-Oceanus wasn't hurt but distracted and it was once again surprise attack

for everything there can be an explanation according to the reasoning that we use for GT or Super if one calmly debates with someone and an agreement is reached

but here I am copying bad arguments because the intention of the subject is clear