Is Supreme Kai Shin the worst character in the franchise?

[Sadala Elite]

https://youtu.be/HVeqUxioOfs

Seriously, the sheer amount of incompetence and bad writing attached to him (with virtually nothing to compensate for it) is unmatched lmao.

What do you guys think?

[ClutchBangstrip]

https://youtu.be/HVeqUxioOfs

Seriously, the sheer amount of incompetence and bad writing attached to him (with virtually nothing to compensate for it) is unmatched lmao.

What do you guys think?

Nope. Not to me, everything you just said that makes him bad, actually makes him pretty funny. He's God, but he sucks. He's gotten even better in Super due to the fact that it significantly cut back on all the seriousness.

[Tai Lung]

It is one of the most notable Buu arc mistakes ..
is someone important but incopetente or weak the worst is that kami and King kai were more useful than him ...

in super it really doesn't matter anymore because there are gods superior to him

[Polyphase Avatron]

Let's give the guy a break. He's probably suffering PTSD from what Buu did to all of the other Kaioshins.

[Psajdak]

It's kinda funny when you realize that Piccolo would have murdered Shin, if they actually fought.

But as for Shin himself, I never had any problem with him; IMO, his main role in Buu saga was to initially appear incredible, and very special, only to make Goku, Vegeta, and Gohan seem even more impressive once they revealed their power in Babidi's spaceship, where they, mortals already surpassed him, a god.
Or when Gohan manages to pull out the Z Sword, or Goku teleports on Kaioshinkai...

[funrush]

There's plenty of characters that were done worse. Kid Mai and General Blue immediately come to mind.

[SHINOBI-03]

I think Kaioshin was intended to be a joke from the beginning. Here we have this new mysterious character with a divine presence around him to make the lesser gods shiver in place, but he ends up completely ignorant of those lowly humans and totally outclassed in powers next to them. That's the joke.

[Sadala Elite]

It's kinda funny when you realize that Piccolo would have murdered Shin, if they actually fought.

Actually, it was confirmed that Shin is stronger than Buu Saga Piccolo.

[SupremeKai25]

I wouldn't really say he was the worst character, but I think he's kind of exaggerated, he's like a caricature. He's supposed to be incompetent, because he never finished his training due to the shenanigans with Buu, and so he was thrusted into an important position when he wasn't ready. At the same time, okay, he has these flaws but they are exaggerated to the point that he just fails at everything and becomes a joke (he's just a battle narrator at this point). Even with the introduction of Zeno and Beerus, he's still supposed to be a big deal, he should be a God who watches over every species in the universe, but he doesn't seem to care about it.

Regardless, failure runs in the species. The only successful Kais were Zamasu and the 4 Kais of the best universes (of which I only remember Anat because they are so irrelevant to the plot). The rest are useless, with Gowasu being the worst.

[Vijay]

It's kinda funny when you realize that Piccolo would have murdered Shin, if they actually fought.

Actually, it was confirmed that Shin is stronger than Buu Saga Piccolo.

Can you provide reliable evidence or quote to support ur statement?

Cuz I myself think Kaioshin > Piccolo. Or at least on equal grounds bar minimum. But I've never bothered searchin cuz it'll lead to same'ol Piccolo/Kaioshin/Base Saiyans vs Babidi minions routine.

Just thought of pointing out. The fact Kaioshin attempted some attacks on Fat Boo, regardless of his PTSD dude suffered aeons ago or his inferior strength, dude still attempted something. Even saved Gohan from seemingly fatal blow.

While all Piccolo did was preventing Trunks from rushing to save Veggie, preventing Goten from helping out Trunks, botched at killing Babidi (which resulted in Earth & it's ppl to suffer) & dude had the audacity to escape like biyotch the moment he witnessed Fat Boo regenerate post-Majin Vegeta's sacrifice.

[Kiyoharu]

All the characters presented in the Tournament of Power are worse than him.

[Peach]

Supreme Kai is a fine character. There was a lot of mystery and airiness to him when he first appeared. I wasn't sure what his intentions were at first. He's kind of useless in Super, sure, but he was fine in Z.

These exposé videos are stupid. Make up your own opinion about a character without relying on others to present theirs for you.

[MasenkoHA]

These exposé videos are stupid. Make up your own opinion about a character without relying on others to present theirs for you.

Preach

[coola]

I would say Kami is most incompetent and useless, he was one who created Demon King Piccolo, and then had nerve to say he doesn't want to rebuild Dragon Balls, because earthlings should take care of their problems themselves. He didn't even train Goku, Mr Popo did, Supreme Kai had great ideas, but Saiyans just wanted to fool around. Best thing Kami did, was fusing with Piccolo, and gave him power up.

[Vijay]

I would say Kami is most incompetent and useless, he was one who created Demon King Piccolo, and then had nerve to say he doesn't want to rebuild Dragon Balls, because earthlings should take care of their problems themselves. He didn't even train Goku, Mr Popo did, Supreme Kai had great ideas, but Saiyans just wanted to fool around. Best thing Kami did, was fusing with Piccolo, and gave him power up.

He was victim of circumstances. It's not like he chose all those events to occur.

Durin his time (aeons ago) after waiting for years (7 years iirc) for his parents to show-up, dude had to undertake a goal. A mission for his life. God/Kami at that time must've been either the strongest being or most likely the only place Nameless Namekian could find himself belonging. Considerin he was an alien and stuff.

Dude had no choice to purge his inner demons outside. But hey, make no mistake. It was mankind's acts of terror, brutality, war & evil which was witnessed by Nameless Namekian deeply engraved within his mind & soul that led to Demon King Piccolo Daimou's appearance. So mankind were at fault here. Not Kami

Plus, it's pretty much implied dat Kami did trained Goku. It's merely off-screen. Goku himself mentioned it multiple times to his Z gang at 23rd TB that Kami Sama trained him at Shinden.

Kami is an ancient being. Witnessing mankind's relentless pursuit of DragonBalls for selfish goals such as world domination & it's resulting war, death & destruction sooner or later would've made Kami rethink his decision. Just like Optimus Prime said in TF: ROTF, Kami has seen humans capability for war. It'll absolutely bring more hard than good. As such, it's only natural for him to think of removing DB's from world & allow humans to solve matters themselves.

[sunsetshimmer]

He is kinda bad, but i would say he is the worst.
Having such characters as Gotenks, Goku Black/Zamasu, Jiren, Chiaotzu, Bio-Broly...he doesn't seem that bad honestly. Not much useful but has few moments. Although i personally slightly hate him unfused, he's fine as Kibitokai.

[Vijay]

He is kinda bad, but i would say he is the worst.
Having such characters as Gotenks, Goku Black/Zamasu, Jiren, Chiaotzu, Bio-Broly...he doesn't seem that bad honestly. Not much useful but has few moments. Although i personally slightly hate him unfused, he's fine as Kibitokai.

Yeah right...forgot all those annoying, bland, ine-note characters...Zamasu/Black, Jiren, Bio-Broly etc...

However on the contrary, I actually liked him as Kaioshin. While dude was bland af as Kibitokai. Maybe cuz as Kaioshin his design & skin color were distinct. While after fusion with Kibito, he kinda....felt... lost. Not as distinctive as he was before.

Besides, just what did he ever accomplished as Kibitokai? Besides teleporting here & there

[Melee_Sovereign]

There's plenty of characters that were done worse. Kid Mai and General Blue immediately come to mind.

Why General Blue? He's a solid villain.

[DragonBallFoodie]

Haven't the gods - Supreme Kai, Beerus, Zamasu, maybe even Zeno - above been repeatedly proven to be incompetent and/or selfish and in severe need of an ass-whooping?

[SupremeKai25]

Only the Gods of the weaker universes are foolish. The Gods of the 4 best universes do their job well and were rewarded by not having to participate in the Tournament of Power. Roh and Gowasu are worse than Shin, in my opinion. At least Shin tries to protect the universe even if he fails, Roh is an insufferable jerk and Gowasu is just useless.