ankokudaishogun wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:54 pm
Do you have any scan\reference\proof that "Power of a Super Saiyan God" and "God Ki" are different things?
There are a few examples that would point to them being distinct, independent things:
1. Probably the most obvious instance is Goku absorbing the power of Super Saiyan God in the movie and TV anime versions of BoG. The characters mention that they can sense his ki again, so it's pretty clear he managed to retain the form's strength without retaining god ki in particular.
2. In episodes 20 and 22, Goku and Vegeta explicitly tap into god ki (in their base forms) during training. Vegeta notes that it has an intense pressure, but there's no direct mention of god ki boosting his strength per se. Whis says that the exercise is to prevent them from alerting opponents. Either way, they can use that ki source without transforming.
3. In the manga's exhibition match, Goku transforms into SSG to reach "the level of the gods" and to "cast the aura of a god". Toppo then says he'll respond in the same way and proceeds to raise his power - however, base Goku already mentioned prior to the match that he could neither sense Toppo's ki nor that of the gods.
4. Ultra Instinct incorporates god ki, despite having no connection to the previous forms; the obvious implication being that while the god forms enable god ki, god ki doesn't automatically enable the god forms.
SSG, SSB and UI are strong transformations simply because they're strong transformations, just like any other Super Saiyan form. That's the simplest, most straightforward conclusion. I feel like people are overcomplicating these concepts.
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