Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Kinokima
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by Kinokima » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:39 am
Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:27 am
Jack Bz wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:41 amI fear this whole thing will just be for Vegeta to get some limelight and help out, which would be disappointing.
I don't mind Vegeta or Buu getting the big W, I just don't understand why Goku has to be written so badly for that to happen.
I still highly doubt Vegeta will win. I am expecting some bad final twist a la Future Trunks arc at this point
But Vegeta should have gotten to do more than he did with all the build up and it’s also bad writing in my opinion where they left him but no I don’t think they needed to make Goku mess up to let Vegeta get to do more.
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by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:45 am
Kinokima wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:39 amI still highly doubt Vegeta will win. I am expecting some bad final twist a la Future Trunks arc at this point.
I'm just using him as an example, as it could be Buu or Beerus who wrap things up. My point is that there's no need to make someone look so bad in order to accomplish that. Why not just have Moro pull a fast one and grab the beans from Krillin instead ? It wouldn't be great, but it'd be far better than Goku fully healing someone who, at this point, he knows full well will just attack them again.
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by Kinokima » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:02 am
Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:45 am
Kinokima wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:39 amI still highly doubt Vegeta will win. I am expecting some bad final twist a la Future Trunks arc at this point.
I'm just using him as an example, as it could be Buu or Beerus who wrap things up. My point is that there's no need to make someone look so bad in order to accomplish that. Why not just have Moro pull a fast one and grab the beans from Krillin instead ? It wouldn't be great, but it'd be far better than Goku fully healing someone who, at this point, he knows full well will just attack them again.
I don’t disagree hence my last sentence. Though I don’t think Goku should have let Moro go at all because he is too dangerous. Giving him a Senzu to heal just makes it ten times worse
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by JewyB » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:34 am
So... Moro's new form is... White eyeshadow?
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by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:35 am
Fuck. Here we go again. Ugh....Great he has Merus's powers. That totally won't screw everyone over
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by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:35 am
JewyB wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:34 am
So... Moro's new form is... White eyeshadow?
He now has all of Merus' angle powers, which explains why Whis is now involved. Whis vs Moro may end up being the final fight.
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by SupremeKai25 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:37 am
Goku is so dumb haha. This is peak ningen stupidity.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro
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by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:38 am
Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:35 am
JewyB wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:34 am
So... Moro's new form is... White eyeshadow?
He now has all of Merus' angle powers, which explains why Whis is now involved. Whis vs Moro may end up being the final fight.
Lets be honest here, wouldn't Whis just beat him? I mean, Moro ain't on his level and unless he has Merus's strength he shouldn't be able to fight him.
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by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:41 am
Femme Fatale Kikaza wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:38 amLets be honest here, wouldn't Whis just beat him? I mean, Moro ain't on his level and unless he has Merus's strength he shouldn't be able to fight him.
Toyo has went out of his way to make Moro the be all end all of villains, so don't be surprised if Whis is on the ground next month.
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:37 am
Goku is so dumb haha. This is peak ningen stupidity.
You know Beerus is thinking to himself that maybe Zamasu was right.
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by SupremeKai25 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:41 am
LOLOL this arc proves Zamasu was 100% right, you just can't trust ningens. They are too retarded to make these big decisions.
Hopefully Whis and Beerus clean up Goku's mess.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro
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by Magnificent Ponta » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:43 am
*Phew*
Totally fine with that - it's more towards what I'd hoped for than what else might've come out of it.
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by DevilKing99 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:44 am
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:37 am
Goku is so dumb haha. This is peak ningen stupidity.
Goku is at a level beyond ningen stupidity
Only Whis can do anything to Moro right now
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by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:44 am
Magnificent Ponta wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:43 amIt's more towards what I'd hoped for than what else might've come out of it.
What did you think was going to happen ? the biggest problem I have with this is that it means the arc will be dragged out even longer.
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by GodVegetto91 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:46 am
YES!!! I FREAKING CALLED IT!!!!
SPOILERS!
Can I get a round of applause now???!
Or maybe it will still come? Who knows?!
Get excited guys!
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by SupremeKai25 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:46 am
The only good thing to come out of this arc is that the upcoming angel fight will look awesome on the big screens. Since the writing for this arc is already beyond saving, at least Toei will make the fights look good and entertaining.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
Akira Toriyama, DBS vol.4 joint interview with Toyotaro
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by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:48 am
GodVegetto91 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:46 amGet excited guys!
I'm really excited for this already dragged out arc to be even more dragged out.
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by DiscountDabi » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:49 am
Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:32 am
Good one Goku.
This arc isn't ending anytime soon.
You know, did toyotaro really need Goku to give Moro a Senzu for this to happen. Couldn’t Moro have just used him magic to grab the hand and eat it all on his own without the character assassination?
Edit: You know, at the beginning of this arc I thought Hearts was the Dragon Ball Villain with the worst design. But Yeesh. Toyotaro why? His Goat form was perfectly fine. But not only do you make Moro More Humanoid, but you’re giving him white fur and Eye liner too.
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by Femme Fatale Kikaza » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:51 am
Matches Malone wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:48 am
GodVegetto91 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:46 amGet excited guys!
I'm really excited for this already dragged out arc to be even more dragged out.
Same. This arc needs to end. I hope whatever Whis plans on doing, he doesn't fuck it up so we can leave....
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by Matches Malone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:52 am
DiscountDabi wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:49 amYou know, did toyotaro really need Goku to give Moro a Senzu for this to happen. Couldn’t Moro have just used him magic to grab the hand and eat it all on his own without the character assassination?
This is exactly what I've been saying, he could've done all this without making Goku look bad. What he did would be like having Vegeta tell Moro he could go fuse with 7-3.
