"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[DiscountDabi]

So, I went and read the Kintoki One Shot. And the more I read, the more I realized that Granola was definitely not a member of the Golden Eyed Clan. Given one of the Characters was in the Jaco Manga, and didn’t seem tk have aged a day, I assume they take place around the same time. And Jaco came to earth around the same time Goku did. So that means its been 43 years since then. As explained by Toki in the manga, the Golden Eye Clan Members have very short lifespans. One Member of the Clan, named Kuina, was said to be 38 which is far far older than the average life span of a their kind. He is even expecting to die soon. So unless he is a decendent of the clan, or is trying to use 7-3 to extend his own life, I find it hard to believe he is one of these.

[Yuji]

So, I went and read the Kintoki One Shot. And the more I read, the more I realized that Granola was definitely not a member of the Golden Eyed Clan. Given one of the Characters was in the Jaco Manga, and didn’t seem tk have aged a day, I assume they take place around the same time. And Jaco came to earth around the same time Goku did. So that means its been 43 years since then. As explained by Toki in the manga, the Golden Eye Clan Members have very short lifespans. One Member of the Clan, named Kuina, was said to be 38 which is far far older than the average life span of a their kind. He is even expecting to die soon. So unless he is a decendent of the clan, or is trying to use 7-3 to extend his own life, I find it hard to believe he is one of these.

While I don't necessarily agree with the theory, it is possible Toyotarou could just appropriate some of the elements from Kintoki without brandishing it as a part of his continuity. The golden-eyed clan could exist as a part of an alien species, not necessarily as Earthlings like in Toriyama's one shot. A reboot of sorts, like Broly.

[DiscountDabi]

So, I went and read the Kintoki One Shot. And the more I read, the more I realized that Granola was definitely not a member of the Golden Eyed Clan. Given one of the Characters was in the Jaco Manga, and didn’t seem tk have aged a day, I assume they take place around the same time. And Jaco came to earth around the same time Goku did. So that means its been 43 years since then. As explained by Toki in the manga, the Golden Eye Clan Members have very short lifespans. One Member of the Clan, named Kuina, was said to be 38 which is far far older than the average life span of a their kind. He is even expecting to die soon. So unless he is a decendent of the clan, or is trying to use 7-3 to extend his own life, I find it hard to believe he is one of these.

While I don't necessarily agree with the theory, it is possible Toyotarou could just appropriate some of the elements from Kintoki without brandishing it as a part of his continuity. The golden-eyed clan could exist as a part of an alien species, not necessarily as Earthlings like in Toriyama's one shot. A reboot of sorts, like Broly.

Oh most definitely. The concept is very much so interesting. If he can adapt it well it could definitely be interesting. The whole “Golden Eyed Mystic Race of Gods of War” seems really interesting for a Dragon Ball Villain.

In all honesty, we got gimped when it comes to Magic in the Moro Arc. Having a Mystical Villian that isn’t really a “Wizard” would be interesting and kinda refreshing.

[ChronoTwigger]

Granola is hunting for that specific 7-3 unit. As "Granola the Side Character vs 7-3" can't be the arc focus *probably* Granola need something 7-3 know/copied/absorbed. It's not even assured is the bad guy, after all.
My guess he did survived to the original creator of 7-3 that hide somewhere, and require location.

[shadd21]

Spoiler:

So apparently it’s the GP who revived Merus, however he(Merus) no longer possesses god/angelic powers.

[Matches Malone]

Spoiler:

Granolla easily takes down an army of 7-3s, which leads me to believe the one with Moro who's being repaired was a special case when it comes to strength and maybe abilities.

[Magnificent Ponta]

Spoiler:

I like that Shin instigates the revival of Merus by approaching the Grand Priest and (apparently) offering his own life in exchange - it explains what he's been doing, works well with his character, and dovetails nicely with Beerus receiving punishment for being useless and letting Merus get erased in the first place.

Also, Granola takes out a bunch of OG72-I's instantly with perfect aim at their head jewels. He's got something special going on in that department, even if he ends up not being a Kinme.

[Kinokima]

Spoiler:

I expected Merus to be resurrected as a mortal but it does put even less weight on the chapter when Goku transforms to UI. Oh well!

[Kanassa]

I really hope that future villains in DB are the direct result of the team's choices & actions as opposed to random magical beings from the past. Goku & Co should be dealing with the consequences of their own problems rather than cleaning up the messes of inept deities from millions of years ago.
What we need is another Cell or possibly even the Shadow Dragons. Opponents that were the culmination of their past foes combined into one or the logical conclusion of abusing the powers of magical wishing orbs that were never meant to be used more than rarely.

Does Cell really count as a consequence of the team's actions? It's not like Dr. Gero would have stopped making Androids if the Red Ribbon Army wasn't destroyed, dude was already making Androids while he was there.

[Yuji]

Spoiler:

I wonder how strong Merus is now without his angelic powers. If I remember correctly, he was having no difficulty dealing with SS3 Goku without "activating" his powers, but against Sign Goku in training and Moro 7-3 he needed to use them.

I also wonder if this means Merus will now be an active participant and an ally of the Dragon Team going forward, or unfortunately sidelined like Hit and Jiren.

[Matches Malone]

Spoiler:

I wonder how strong Merus is now without his angelic powers. If I remember correctly, he was having no difficulty dealing with SS3 Goku without "activating" his powers, but against Sign Goku in training and Moro 7-3 he needed to use them.

I also wonder if this means Merus will now be an active participant and an ally of the Dragon Team going forward, or unfortunately sidelined like Hit and Jiren.

He might be like Jaco where he shows up every now and then.

[Jiren The Alpha]

Spoiler:

I wonder how strong Merus is now without his angelic powers. If I remember correctly, he was having no difficulty dealing with SS3 Goku without "activating" his powers, but against Sign Goku in training and Moro 7-3 he needed to use them.

I also wonder if this means Merus will now be an active participant and an ally of the Dragon Team going forward, or unfortunately sidelined like Hit and Jiren.

Hit and Jiren have no reason to help the dragon team, they have they own universe to thing about.

[Yuji]

Spoiler:

I wonder how strong Merus is now without his angelic powers. If I remember correctly, he was having no difficulty dealing with SS3 Goku without "activating" his powers, but against Sign Goku in training and Moro 7-3 he needed to use them.

I also wonder if this means Merus will now be an active participant and an ally of the Dragon Team going forward, or unfortunately sidelined like Hit and Jiren.

Hit and Jiren have no reason to help the dragon team, they have they own universe to thing about.

Obviously. I mean they could have been included in the dragon team in a fight against a multiversal threat, but Super isn't interested in going that route. Like Super perhaps isn't interested in dealing with threats that Merus could help against in the future.

[Ziegander]

Slightly less-cautiously optimistic now, guys, honestly, Granola seems cool AF. I'm still slightly disappointed in the

Spoiler:

Merus and OG-73

reveals, but if nothing else, Toyo is very good at starting up a storyline, this is looking good.

[mute_proxy]

I kinda wish the setting changed. "Space cowboy" stuff after the Moro arc feels a bit stale and tiring.

[Totamo]

Hey, I called it.

[SupremeKai25]

Okay but can we talk about the punishment Beerus and Shin got

I'm almost glad that they didn't get erased just because it's so funny to watch them in that state, it's almost like a torture for them. Erasure would be too quick and painless of a punishment.

It's going to look glorious animated, I don't care if I have to wait until 2030

[pepd]

Spoiler:

Love the Attendants's holiday and the punishment. Shin's request and Daishinkan being the one to revive Merusu is the best way to bring him back IMO

[GodVegetto91]

Spoiler:

I wonder how strong Merus is now without his angelic powers. If I remember correctly, he was having no difficulty dealing with SS3 Goku without "activating" his powers, but against Sign Goku in training and Moro 7-3 he needed to use them.

I also wonder if this means Merus will now be an active participant and an ally of the Dragon Team going forward, or unfortunately sidelined like Hit and Jiren.

He was clowning Moro 73 even without his full Angelic power. He was in mortal mode and didn’t have a Halo. He did far better against Moro 73 than UI Omen Goku did.

[theherodjl]

Does Cell really count as a consequence of the team's actions? It's not like Dr. Gero would have stopped making Androids if the Red Ribbon Army wasn't destroyed, dude was already making Androids while he was there.

Of course! Had Goku and the others been more pragmatic in dealing with villains, Cell would not have been a problem for them. Vegeta intentionally allowed Cell to achieve his perfect form. Krillin destroyed the shutdown switch. Piccolo clumsily got taiyoken'd by Cell which led to the villain escaping and absorbing much of the Earth population. Goku refused to preemptively stop Gero's plans even after being informed of it by Trunks. The list goes on.