Fable wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:06 pm
Also, I really love how this is just the comment sections turned into a page.
It's almost like I'm speaking through Vegetto lol.
According to Salagir, Majin Bra happened just to raise the steaks on the other fighters and no other reason despite Ginyu having a good strategy in Spamming his Body Change. He's trying to convey this situation where its supposed to be ambiguous on who's right and who's wrong with Vegetto and Bra but this doesn't seem to be leading up to any big pay off, which makes this dynamic even worse. She's definitely going to "get away" with this and we're most likely gonna have to watch her go through some stupid redemption arc where she apologizes just before turning SS3 and playing a huge part in the climax.
It's not too late. One day, it will be.
Peace And Power MF DOOM!
Peace and Power Kevin Samuels
No, Bra could've been a really amazing character with these exact same plot beats, under someone who knew how to do moral ambiguity.
Unfortunately, Salagir's idea of "ambiguity" seems to be what Vince McMahon's always wrote. "100% evil and nasty one moment"...
...and "100% sorry and apologetic the next"...
It's ham-fisted at best, and manipulative at worst. It's like Salagir wants a really dramatic story, but doesn't have the patience or knowledge to make it happen.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
Jackalope89 wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:51 pm
So, which Gohan did she kill again? Her "not" brother, or real brother/father figure since Vegetto was an absent father figure?
The only thing that I could appreciate from the latest page was its art, because the dialogue is just terrible. So we should feel sorry about Bra now? Well, curse you Salagir cause I won't!
But now I'm on a tight spot... as much as I want Bra to be punished I don't want Vegetto to be the one to do it, dammit.
ZeroNeonix wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:25 pm
As if Super Saiyan 3 needed to be nerfed even more. Oh well. At least they don't have God and Blue forms to make SS3 completely obsolete.
Well, it's about time for this series to have a transformation to go beyond Super Saiyan 3. Quite curious (and also afraid) to see the take of Salagir on a non-GT Super Saiyan 4.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Jackalope89 wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:51 pm
So, which Gohan did she kill again? Her "not" brother, or real brother/father figure since Vegetto was an absent father figure?
I thought she killed both of them.
She killed her real brother/father figure. It seems "our" Gohan is still alive.
Fusing into Gogeta would be the most reasonable method to defeating Vegetto. There's no in-universe reason as to why they wouldn't do that aside from maybe Vegeta's protesting; but when the lives of their families are put at jeopardy, fusion would be the only option that they'd be left with. Out-of-universe, Salagir has no excuse unless he adamantly intends to avoid reader expectations and cliches. This is "Fan-service: The Fan Manga."
If they do wind up using Gogeta, however, then he wouldn't be able to pull any punches since Vegetto is permanent whereas Gogeta—if the plot is generous enough—would have only 30 minutes to spare. He'd have to aim to either kill or severely incapacitate Vegetto. And even then, that'd be difficult in and of itself.
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm
Gogeta vs Vegetto would be the biggest thing the Manga could do since Broly vs Vegetto as far as fan service goes.
That or nudity(Yes this is a joke.)
Well Salagir is not. Check out one of the novels and you will find a completely naked super saiyan who’s groin is only just covered by her tail, though there’s just enough exposed to tell the carpet matches the drapes.
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm
Gogeta vs Vegetto would be the biggest thing the Manga could do since Broly vs Vegetto as far as fan service goes.
That or nudity(Yes this is a joke.)
Well Salagir is not. Check out one of the novels and you will find a completely naked super saiyan who’s groin is only just covered by her tail, though there’s just enough exposed to tell the carpet matches the drapes.
I almost want to say I've seen it, but I don't quite remember.
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm
Gogeta vs Vegetto would be the biggest thing the Manga could do since Broly vs Vegetto as far as fan service goes.
That or nudity(Yes this is a joke.)
Well they kept teasing nudity with Bra's battle damage. if they keep writing/drawing with one hand we'll end up getting it
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm
Gogeta vs Vegetto would be the biggest thing the Manga could do since Broly vs Vegetto as far as fan service goes.
That or nudity(Yes this is a joke.)
Well Salagir is not. Check out one of the novels and you will find a completely naked super saiyan who’s groin is only just covered by her tail, though there’s just enough exposed to tell the carpet matches the drapes.
I almost want to say I've seen it, but I don't quite remember.
Hanasia, Queen of the Saiyans. I’m not gonna say the exact page , don’t want trouble with admin, but you you won’t have to look hard.
Well Salagir is not. Check out one of the novels and you will find a completely naked super saiyan who’s groin is only just covered by her tail, though there’s just enough exposed to tell the carpet matches the drapes.
I almost want to say I've seen it, but I don't quite remember.
Hanasia, Queen of the Saiyans. I’m not gonna say the exact page , don’t want trouble with admin, but you you won’t have to look hard.
Eh, can't find it. If you want, you can pm it to me though.
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm
Gogeta vs Vegetto would be the biggest thing the Manga could do since Broly vs Vegetto as far as fan service goes.
That or nudity(Yes this is a joke.)
Well Salagir is not. Check out one of the novels and you will find a completely naked super saiyan who’s groin is only just covered by her tail, though there’s just enough exposed to tell the carpet matches the drapes.
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:44 pm
Gogeta vs Vegetto would be the biggest thing the Manga could do since Broly vs Vegetto as far as fan service goes.
That or nudity(Yes this is a joke.)
Well Salagir is not. Check out one of the novels and you will find a completely naked super saiyan who’s groin is only just covered by her tail, though there’s just enough exposed to tell the carpet matches the drapes.
I remember that one. I guess before they fell for Bra they were in love with Hanasia