Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
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Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
I get that they're an asexual species, but it does make me a little sad that the namekians are all male or masculine looking. More diversity is always a good thing. The Namek saga is lacking female representation...
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
No, not really.
If there are fem-esque Namekians I'd not be surprised ("female Namekian" is an oxymoron if they're asexual). But honestly I think this is an example of reducing diversity by making an establish unisexual/asexual species follow the human/mammalian binary.
I'd rather something like it turning out that Freeza's race has a dozen different sexes. Or Majin Boo creating a completely ambiguously-gendered line of children since it's obvious he can create progeny anyway he wants.
Kinda agree with this, but ultimately when it comes to these sorts of things (especially anything involving combat), I'm not demanding it 100% like a Soviet commisar commanding socialist-realist art or an Inquisitor demanding that a Catholic novel needs these 10 exact elements. If it's a sausage fest, it's a sausage fest. If it's taco Tuesday, it's Taco Tuesday. If it's mushroom season, it's mushroom season.The Namek saga is lacking female representation...
If there are fem-esque Namekians I'd not be surprised ("female Namekian" is an oxymoron if they're asexual). But honestly I think this is an example of reducing diversity by making an establish unisexual/asexual species follow the human/mammalian binary.
I'd rather something like it turning out that Freeza's race has a dozen different sexes. Or Majin Boo creating a completely ambiguously-gendered line of children since it's obvious he can create progeny anyway he wants.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
I wouldn't have much of a reaction if some turned up, but do I actually care if that ever happens or not? Eh...no. They're homogenous weird slug people who all look like a bunch of Piccolos. And they're asexual. I think the near uniformity makes it unique and is partially the joke, anyway.
Exactly. Stories have no obligation to cater to every demographic that might catch wind of it and represent them. Like, it would be cool for me if there was a black Saiyan but I don't actively care if it happens and demand it. It's not my story - I'm only a customer. They put out what they want to put out, and I watch.Yuli Ban wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:10 pm No, not really.
Kinda agree with this, but ultimately when it comes to these sorts of things (especially anything involving combat), I'm not demanding it 100% like a Soviet commisar commanding socialist-realist art or an Inquisitor demanding that a Catholic novel needs these 10 exact elements. If it's a sausage fest, it's a sausage fest. If it's taco Tuesday, it's Taco Tuesday. If it's mushroom season, it's mushroom season.The Namek saga is lacking female representation...
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
If I were to be blunt, I kinda like how namekians aren't sexualized at all.
If it's done really well sure I don't mind.
If it's done really well sure I don't mind.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
If they were more androgynous I think it would've lent more to the lore of the Namekians as a people, though I wonder if Piccolo as a character would've had the wide appeal that he has presently.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
Growing up, I kind of always wished there were female Namekians. Now, I guess I don't care as much, but it would still be neat.
Another cool idea they could've done is make U7 Namekians look male while U6 Namekians look female.
Another cool idea they could've done is make U7 Namekians look male while U6 Namekians look female.
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It's honestly something that never crossed my mind. The Namekians were mostly needed to support Piccolo and Kami's backstory. I think we all know the real reason there weren't female Namekians is probably because Toriyama is lazy and didn't want to have to keep up with different designs. A lot of the Namekians just look like variations on Piccolo.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
Yeah also it's like how do you draw female versions of creatures that look so evil and ugly to begin with? Or course it can be done, but often times the tendency is to draw female characters as "attractive" by default. Toriyama might not be capable of overcoming that kind of thinking.
But also, I think it would normalize the Namekians a bit too much when they are so naturally strange.
But also, I think it would normalize the Namekians a bit too much when they are so naturally strange.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
Yeah, exactly. There's utterly no point in it.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
Well, as TVTropes points out, some Namekians have clearly male characteristics, such as mustaches. I'm sure Toriyama could draw a female-looking face and put it on a Namekian body, without any other characteristics.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
It's a missed opportunity both ways. Ultimately the lack of female Namekians was used as a one-time curiosity that isn't ever expanded upon or explored in any fashion whatsoever, and most likely thrown in as a convenient way to explain why there's only been males at this point and Toriyama doesn't want to draw 'em. Heck at that point Toriyama could have gotten away with saying that for ANY of the alien races he's come up with for how many times he draws female versions of them, Saiyans included.
But those two facets are kinda part and parcel for Classic-era Dragon Ball.
But those two facets are kinda part and parcel for Classic-era Dragon Ball.
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It was one Namekian in Yajirobe's imagination in the anime.Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:52 amWell, as TVTropes points out, some Namekians have clearly male characteristics, such as mustaches. I'm sure Toriyama could draw a female-looking face and put it on a Namekian body, without any other characteristics.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
They would have a female body shape (wider hips and narrower shoulders), more feminine looking faces, and female voices.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
E.g. this asexual robot has a feminine body.
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Image isn't working.Melee_Sovereign wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:54 amThey would have a female body shape (wider hips and narrower shoulders), more feminine looking faces, and female voices.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
E.g. this asexual robot has a feminine body.
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Try this one I guess.Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:00 pmImage isn't working.Melee_Sovereign wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:54 amThey would have a female body shape (wider hips and narrower shoulders), more feminine looking faces, and female voices.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
E.g. this asexual robot has a feminine body.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
I googled some fan designs of a female namekian and all of them just slap on huge boobs and add mascara and leave it at that.
How disappointing.
How disappointing.
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Re: Would you have liked more female or feminine looking namekians?
But it wouldn't make much sense? Namekians are asexual creatures, they should not have sexual dimorphism.Melee_Sovereign wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 11:54 amThey would have a female body shape (wider hips and narrower shoulders) [...]PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:40 am How would a namekian of human-female features look like? If it is an asexual species, then they won't have mammary sexual organs or features, so the only distinguishing factor in the appearance must come from the facial complexion. Maybe flatter eyebrow muscles? I'm not even sure if it could work...
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It's Dragon Ball fanart, what'd you expect?? Probably inspired by those FigArts statues of Videl and 21.UltraInstinctRorikon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:20 pm I googled some fan designs of a female namekian and all of them just slap on huge boobs and add mascara and leave it at that.
How disappointing.
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I mean, it would be kind of interesting to have see that done back then but as we know in universe Namekians are asexual and reproduce via eggs from the mouth like Piccolo Daimao. Then again, given how different looking they are and all i'm not too surprised that Toriyama made it to where there are only males of the species both full grown and children.
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