But wasn't that because they were trying to celebrate Gohan's BF from the "year" he spent on the ROSAT? IDK, I haven't seen that episode for a while.
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They were celebrating Gohan's biological age after spending time in the RoSaT.
Regardless, the cyborgs aren't given ages and 30 is not ancient, it's still very young. Jesus, of all the things to criticize.
Regardless, the cyborgs aren't given ages and 30 is not ancient, it's still very young. Jesus, of all the things to criticize.
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I mean... you don't have to like it. I pointed it out though because someone else Krillin being a lot older than #18 and marrying her is in common with Dragon Ball's theme, which I thought was weird considering, that Goku and ChiChi are similar ages, as with Bulma and Vegeta and to top it off Age Gap dating is common in the real world, its not some DB exclusive undertone or something.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:52 amIt might seem fishy because it is fishy. A 30 year old dating a barely legal teen is scuzzy and gross af.goku the krump dancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:15 am Age gap dating is a common thing though, sure an 18 year old dating a 30 something might seem fishy but it’s legal (and happens way more than you might think). Hell, Undertaker is 15 years older than Michele McCool, granted they were both well into adult hood when they started dating.
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I think a 30 year old dating a kid definitely raises some flags. Who cares how young 30 is when the other character is a teenager?
To be fair though, I guess it's possible that while they are physically teenagers, mentally might be a different story depending upon how long they have been converted.
To be fair though, I guess it's possible that while they are physically teenagers, mentally might be a different story depending upon how long they have been converted.
It is fitting for the series because a big part of DB is about older men lusting after teenage girls and younger women. Inappropriate relationships and questionable behavior in general is a recurring aspect in the series. If the age gap comes off a little skewed, it's because Dragon Ball is a little skewed.goku the krump dancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:17 pm I pointed it out though because someone else Krillin being a lot older than #18 and marrying her is in common with Dragon Ball's theme, which I thought was weird considering, that Goku and ChiChi are similar ages, as with Bulma and Vegeta and to top it off Age Gap dating is common in the real world, its not some DB exclusive undertone or something.
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A 30-year-old man dating an 18-year-old woman is indeed gross as fuck but in this situation 1) #18 gives off serious mom energy, and 2) she can kick Krillin's ass.
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That's literally just Roshi, a guy who's only a major character for like 3 arcs. Even then his antics are one offs, meaning he does something pervy, gets slapped around then its over with. Never has it ever been the basis of any storyline. How in the world did you come to that conclusion.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:28 pmIt is fitting for the series because a big part of DB is about older men lusting after teenage girls and younger women. Inappropriate relationships and questionable behavior in general is a recurring aspect in the series. If the age gap comes off a little skewed, it's because Dragon Ball is a little skewed.goku the krump dancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:17 pm I pointed it out though because someone else Krillin being a lot older than #18 and marrying her is in common with Dragon Ball's theme, which I thought was weird considering, that Goku and ChiChi are similar ages, as with Bulma and Vegeta and to top it off Age Gap dating is common in the real world, its not some DB exclusive undertone or something.
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Because nowadays people will find some way to turn every thread into a discussion about Master Roshigoku the krump dancer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:24 amThat's literally just Roshi, a guy who's only a major character for like 3 arcs. Even then his antics are one offs, meaning he does something pervy, gets slapped around then its over with. Never has it ever been the basis of any storyline. How in the world did you come to that conclusion.MyVisionity wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:28 pmIt is fitting for the series because a big part of DB is about older men lusting after teenage girls and younger women. Inappropriate relationships and questionable behavior in general is a recurring aspect in the series. If the age gap comes off a little skewed, it's because Dragon Ball is a little skewed.goku the krump dancer wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:17 pm I pointed it out though because someone else Krillin being a lot older than #18 and marrying her is in common with Dragon Ball's theme, which I thought was weird considering, that Goku and ChiChi are similar ages, as with Bulma and Vegeta and to top it off Age Gap dating is common in the real world, its not some DB exclusive undertone or something.
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Yeah, that description fits perfectly with Ranma 1/2, not DB
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Let's not forget that she kissed him firstCursed Lemon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:53 pm A 30-year-old man dating an 18-year-old woman is indeed gross as fuck but in this situation 1) #18 gives off serious mom energy, and 2) she can kick Krillin's ass.
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Roshi is an example of how DB treats topics like sex. He's also Krillin's literal mentor. Why shouldn't he be brought up when talking about Krillin's eventual outlook on sex and relationships?
Also, this whole thing started when people got offended over Krillin being (rightly) called a bit of a simp. Maybe you're the ones who are a little too sensitive.
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Great point! especially considering thats how their whole dynamic got started.PurestEvil wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:04 amLet's not forget that she kissed him firstCursed Lemon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:53 pm A 30-year-old man dating an 18-year-old woman is indeed gross as fuck but in this situation 1) #18 gives off serious mom energy, and 2) she can kick Krillin's ass.
Sex isn't an integral part of the story, so how should it be treated? Also you're allowed to have multiple mentors for different things, there's no One Shoe Fits All when it comes to mentorship. Krillin sought out Roshi for Martial Arts purposes not dating advice, he also somehow knew Roshi was a perv, seeing as though he came prepared with a stack of porn mags to help sway him.It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 amRoshi is an example of how DB treats topics like sex. He's also Krillin's literal mentor. Why shouldn't he be brought up when talking about Krillin's eventual outlook on sex and relationships?
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...Where did I say anybody was being sensitive?It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 amRoshi is an example of how DB treats topics like sex. He's also Krillin's literal mentor. Why shouldn't he be brought up when talking about Krillin's eventual outlook on sex and relationships?
Also, this whole thing started when people got offended over Krillin being (rightly) called a bit of a simp. Maybe you're the ones who are a little too sensitive.
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Krillin has not had multiple mentors or masters. He's had Roshi. Since he was thirteen the only parental figure in Krillin's life has been the Turtle Hermit. It shouldn't be controversial to say that Roshi has likely had a huge influence on Krillin's overall outlook.goku the krump dancer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:51 amSex isn't an integral part of the story, so how should it be treated? Also you're allowed to have multiple mentors for different things, there's no One Shoe Fits All when it comes to mentorship. Krillin sought out Roshi for Martial Arts purposes not dating advice, he also somehow knew Roshi was a perv, seeing as though he came prepared with a stack of porn mags to help sway him.It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 amRoshi is an example of how DB treats topics like sex. He's also Krillin's literal mentor. Why shouldn't he be brought up when talking about Krillin's eventual outlook on sex and relationships?
But beyond that, Roshi is a good example of how DB treats vices and situations that would be uncomfortable in the real world. Which is what makes him relevant to whether a 30 year old screwing a 18/19 year old is in keeping with the tone of the series. Irl it's weird when a thirty year old hooks up with a woman who can't legally drink. In Dragon Ball nobody even bats an eye.
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Dragon Ball is all about questionable behavior because it comes out of Toriyama's offbeat mind. Things that wouldn't fly in the real world are written into the series. That's really what the Kuririn/18 age gap represents.
As for the perverted aspects, it's not solely Roshi, as we see many perverts and many inappropriate incidents throughout the series. It was a part of the story before Roshi even appears, since the very start. It's baked into the series' DNA.
Sex and Dragon Ball are inseparable, even if it's largely a background component. As mentioned previously, Roshi is Kuririn's mentor, much more so than Goku's. He lived with the guy his whole life, even after he had a family! And he definitely sought out Roshi for more than the martial arts, as one does. Kuririn wanted WOMEN, and he was going to learn whatever he could from his master. And we've seen him connect with Roshi in perverted thinking before.
As for the perverted aspects, it's not solely Roshi, as we see many perverts and many inappropriate incidents throughout the series. It was a part of the story before Roshi even appears, since the very start. It's baked into the series' DNA.
Sex and Dragon Ball are inseparable, even if it's largely a background component. As mentioned previously, Roshi is Kuririn's mentor, much more so than Goku's. He lived with the guy his whole life, even after he had a family! And he definitely sought out Roshi for more than the martial arts, as one does. Kuririn wanted WOMEN, and he was going to learn whatever he could from his master. And we've seen him connect with Roshi in perverted thinking before.
This...... doesn't really excuse anything and is actually a little troubling to be honest.
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Aside from his inferiority complex and general unluckiness, Krillin is a vastly different character from the 23rd TB onward. He has nothing in common with the arrogant kid who tried winning Roshi over with smut rags.
And aside from apparently one line, any perceived age gap or yuckiness is never once brought up
And aside from apparently one line, any perceived age gap or yuckiness is never once brought up
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I don't think it's that yucky anyway. Even back when they were always called brats, I never really thought of the Androids as teenagers, especially since they were evidently older than they looked due to being kept in Gero's lab for years. From every arc onwards, #18 is coded as a mature woman. Part of the gag of Kuririn and #18's relationship is that he's impish and femininely-voiced enough to be mistaken for her child sometimes.
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It establishes how flipped the power dynamic is. The only thing troubling here is Krillin nearly being humiliated by an "18 year old"MyVisionity wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:52 pmThis...... doesn't really excuse anything and is actually a little troubling to be honest.
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Kinda unfair to assume Lazuli's age when nobody knows it and judge it by what YOU think her age is.
We don't know when they were kidnapped by Gero, how long it took to turn them into cyborgs, how many years they spent in stasis or whatever Gero did to them after they were finished. So if their numbers are any indication of their age, and if we assume(because why not, this discussion is based on an assumption) they were already kidnapped when Trunks came back and killed Freeza, she could be at the very least 21.
But if you factor in that he made android 19 and made himself into one, the twins probably were kidnapped much earlier than the 3 years prior to the arc. Making them much older than 21.
They could've been kidnapped during Dragon Ball.
We don't know when they were kidnapped by Gero, how long it took to turn them into cyborgs, how many years they spent in stasis or whatever Gero did to them after they were finished. So if their numbers are any indication of their age, and if we assume(because why not, this discussion is based on an assumption) they were already kidnapped when Trunks came back and killed Freeza, she could be at the very least 21.
But if you factor in that he made android 19 and made himself into one, the twins probably were kidnapped much earlier than the 3 years prior to the arc. Making them much older than 21.
They could've been kidnapped during Dragon Ball.
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And the huge possibility that Kuririn and Android 18 didn't get together in AGE 767.
Also, if we factor in the information that Marron is three years old in Majin Buu saga, that would mean she was born in AGE 771. That leaves room for them only having got together by AGE 770, for all we know. That's just a plus of three years after Cell saga.
There's literally no problem about Kuririn and Android 18's relationship, at all.
Also, if we factor in the information that Marron is three years old in Majin Buu saga, that would mean she was born in AGE 771. That leaves room for them only having got together by AGE 770, for all we know. That's just a plus of three years after Cell saga.
There's literally no problem about Kuririn and Android 18's relationship, at all.
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Android 17 & 18 as in the Cell Arc. They're not interesting characters and are wasted and only used as devices to power-up Cell.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.