Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[Hellspawn28]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

[ZeroNeonix]

Wasn’t Broly a limited/timed release it didn’t say in theaters long if I recall some ppl said they would have to drive 2hr+ to the theater that was showing it. If given a wider/longer release…

I can't speak for anyone else, but Broly was actually very easy to see. It was a limited showing, but it was in just a normal theater. For Resurrection F, though, I actually did have to drive quite a distance away to see the movie at a theater that played niche stuff like that.

[Mr_CINDER]

No not just marketing but also a full scale major 4000+ screenings like any holywood movie and releasing on a full scale worldwide not just limited theatrical crap, because in my opinion Anime has passed that point long ago and demon slayer manga canon arc success prove my point.

Oh ok. I'm not sure if there's enough of an audience for an anime film to get a Hollywood wide release. Maybe one day but it's unlikely to happen by the time Super Hero is released. I recall that several Hollywood films being delayed during Covid helped Demon Slayer screen in more theaters. I don't know how much less it would've earned under normal circumstances but there would be fewer screenings and more competition.

I just hope that will start with this new DB film, beacuse morishita also said it was his dream to make a complete CG DB movie and distribute it in a major scale all over the world.If that happen this will be a huge success but then again the story has to be good or decent at least.

[SupremeKai25]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

No. I'd wager they're not putting any manga-only content because not many people read the DBS manga. When it comes to DBS, the anime was always the mainstream and iconic product. So people would look at caveman Vegeta and go "Eh? What's this? Wtf?"

[dbgtFO]

I find it interesting how, after 6 months from its creation, the Broly movie thread already had more than 100 pages of discussion. While this thread after 6 months is still at 80 pages. Is this forum not as hyped for this movie as it was for the Broly movie or what?

Come on, you know the answer

Well we should also consider that Broly came not long after the very succesful anime ended. This movie does not have that kind of momentum to back it up.

[PurestEvil]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

They didn't feature Ultra Instinct Goku in Broly, so I highly doubt they will do the same with Ultra Ego for Super Hero.
I'll be shocked if even if they include UI Goku in the new film!

[Yuji]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

I'm not getting the vibe that this is going to be a super serious story that Goku and Vegeta need to go all out for. I would reckon we might see Blue or UI against Broly at the start of the film but Goku will fight in base/SS/SSG the rest of the film.

[UpFromTheSkies]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

No. I'd wager they're not putting any manga-only content because not many people read the DBS manga. When it comes to DBS, the anime was always the mainstream and iconic product. So people would look at caveman Vegeta and go "Eh? What's this? Wtf?"

Unless they've been living under a rock in the antarctic, even casual Dragon Ball fans know what's going on in the manga because of social media and YouTube.

[SupremeKai25]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

No. I'd wager they're not putting any manga-only content because not many people read the DBS manga. When it comes to DBS, the anime was always the mainstream and iconic product. So people would look at caveman Vegeta and go "Eh? What's this? Wtf?"

Unless they've been living under a rock in the antarctic, even casual Dragon Ball fans know what's going on in the manga because of social media and YouTube.

Social media and Youtube won't tell you what happened in the manga unless you wilfully go check that kind of content (like youtubers talking about spoilers).

The DBS manga isn't that popular. Not too differently from Boruto, the anime is the mainstream product that the vast majority of people check.

There's not even a single reference to the Moro arc (finished 1 year ago) in any of the videogames so this has nothing to do with "living under a rock", because the DBS manga isn't that popular in the first place.

They're not dropping any manga-only form in the movie because most people won't have a clue about what that is.

Why would Vegeta need Ultra Ego anyway? The shark robots look like fodder anyway and, since Pan is advertised as the new super hero, the villains will scale accordingly; they'll pose a challenge to Pan, but will obviously be bugs to Goku and Vegeta.

[UpFromTheSkies]

No. I'd wager they're not putting any manga-only content because not many people read the DBS manga. When it comes to DBS, the anime was always the mainstream and iconic product. So people would look at caveman Vegeta and go "Eh? What's this? Wtf?"

Unless they've been living under a rock in the antarctic, even casual Dragon Ball fans know what's going on in the manga because of social media and YouTube.

Social media and Youtube won't tell you what happened in the manga unless you wilfully go check that kind of content (like youtubers talking about spoilers).

The DBS manga isn't that popular. Not too differently from Boruto, the anime is the mainstream product that the vast majority of people check.

There's not even a single reference to the Moro arc (finished 1 year ago) in any of the videogames so this has nothing to do with "living under a rock", because the DBS manga isn't that popular in the first place.

They're not dropping any manga-only form in the movie because most people won't have a clue about what that is.

Why would Vegeta need Ultra Ego anyway? The shark robots look like fodder anyway and, since Pan is advertised as the new super hero, the villains will scale accordingly; they'll pose a challenge to Pan, but will obviously be bugs to Goku and Vegeta.

I'm sure there are some casuals that don't know about Ultra Ego, but I have a lot friends that are casual fans, they don't read the manga but they do see pictures and chapter summaries on social media and YouTube, so they pretty much know what's going on if I talk to them about it. When Vegeta got his new transformation he was trending all over social media, so they've all seen it.

As for Ultra Ego appearing in the the film, from what we've seen I doubt it would be used against the antagonist, but I could see Vegeta using it while training with Goku or Broly.

[Koitsukai]

I don't think UE will appear in the movie, but for Christ's sake, it's just a transformation, it can be even explained in the movie, it can debut there as well. You don't need background to understand a new transformation.

It's not that hard, he trained with Beerus and unlocked a new form, like it's been going on for like 30 years in the franchise.

[SupremeKai25]

I'm sure there are some casuals that don't know about Ultra Ego, but I have a lot friends that are casual fans, they don't read the manga but they do see pictures and chapter summaries on social media and YouTube, so they pretty much know what's going on if I talk to them about it. When Vegeta got his new transformation he was trending all over social media, so they've all seen it.

As for Ultra Ego appearing in the the film, from what we've seen I doubt it would be used against the antagonist, but I could see Vegeta using it while training with Goku or Broly.

I doubt that Vegeta trending on Twitter for like 2 days means much. I'm sure Moro was also trending for one or two days at any point during his arc, but there's still no videogame or merchandise presence of him.

Toei probably knows that until these things get animated, it's best to just avoid them, because most people won't know about them. Plus I doubt that casual fans use social media to read DB spoilers, otherwise they wouldn't be casual. If you're willing to read spoilers you're clearly showing a degree of interest that a casual fan wouldn't show. A casual fan would just await for the anime to come back or maybe await for the manga chapter to release, they wouldn't look for leaks.

Ultra Ego can appear in the movie after Super Hero though

And obviously, if Toei were to animate the Granolah arc, it would remain to be seen if they'd introduce Ultra Ego. Or just go for another form entirely (like an even more evolved Super Saiyan Blue or something like that). So Toei might not want to introduce Ultra Ego in the movie yet, not until they have figured out what to do/how to proceed with the manga-only arcs.

[Mr_CINDER]

Idk what the goal or purpose of making this type of movie is but I remember hearing in that 1st livestream vid Animeajay did with the other DB youtubers that rumor around the campfire was that Toei wants to dethrone Demon Slayer Mugen Train from #1 spot . Dragonball with its ability to draw crowds could do it but you’d need an DBS Infinity War type movie with an all star production team & Nagamine at the helm directing to do such a feat. Not this amateur hour 3D gag junk we are getting.

I think dethroning Mugen Train would be nearly impossible since it grossed more than double the last three DB movies combined. Mugen Train was also a huge outlier because the highest grossing films from an existing franchise after that were Stand by Me Doraemon at #7 and Pokemon: The First Movie at #9. Both were below $200 million and it would be impressive if any DB movie managed to reach them.

I think it’s possible but such a movie would have to cater a lot to the western audience idea of a Dragonball movie should be (which some DB fans hate for some odd reason ) among other factors

Wasn’t Broly a limited/timed release it didn’t say in theaters long if I recall some ppl said they would have to drive 2hr+ to the theater that was showing it. If given a wider/longer release…

Another thing is that yes Dragon Ball is awesome when it is serious , but you have to remember Akira Toriyama is a gag mangaka at heart Thats why when the Bardock special was created he said he cried but he will never write that kind of dark story. Thats why his version of broly is so gentle confused misguided and sympathetic character. some people are already complaining this upcoming movie is not serious enough too much comedy and goofy character, and casual fans all over world are pissed. They want universel cataclysm type of story, but toriyama dont want dragon ball to become like that His envisioned dragon ball is lightearted and more comedic. Thats why Frieza saga was dramatic , serious , but that was also supported by goku biting frieza's tale to create little bit of laugh.He dont want Dragon Ball to become serious. Thats why Not a single movie was canon , Toriyama didnt wanted to make a broly movie it was the editors suggestion, he said i do not want to dissapoint the fans so keeping his image and popularity he wrote him in his own way. So as long as he own the rights to the franchise and final say we will never get that kind of dark story or infiniy war type story again because that is not his Dragon Ball.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

I agree that I don't see Ultra Ego making an appearance in this film. It's not out of the question, but honestly this movie's story so far doesn't seem to warrant such a transformation, and I'm fine with that.

[Hellspawn28]

Do you think we will see Ultra Ego Vegeta in the film?

They didn't feature Ultra Instinct Goku in Broly, so I highly doubt they will do the same with Ultra Ego for Super Hero.
I'll be shocked if even if they include UI Goku in the new film!

Goku was unable to use UI again after the Tournament of Power which is why he didn't use it against Broly. With UE Vegeta, there's merchandise that they can sell for him much like how they use SSjG Vegeta for Super Movie 1.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

Goku was unable to use UI again after the Tournament of Power which is why he didn't use it against Broly. With UE Vegeta, there's merchandise that they can sell for him much like how they use SSjG Vegeta for Super Movie 1.

The general belief was that Goku would reactive UI in the film. At that point, it was not a form he could tap into at will, so some believed that it was going to be triggered again during the fight.

[Mr_CINDER]

Goku was unable to use UI again after the Tournament of Power which is why he didn't use it against Broly. With UE Vegeta, there's merchandise that they can sell for him much like how they use SSjG Vegeta for Super Movie 1.

The general belief was that Goku would reactive UI in the film. At that point, it was not a form he could tap into at will, so some believed that it was going to be triggered again during the fight.

At this point the power creep is getting out of hand , current granolah arc making not much of a sense, so in my opinion they are doing the right thing to go in a different direction. I could be wrong but I dont think this movie will feature ultra ego let alone any transformation.Current Dragon Ball has no direction everything is complete rehash after rehash after rehash. Toyotaro is not fit to continue DB's legacy, at this point the only question that coming to my mind is if this story should end or go on.

[Koitsukai]

I doubt Vegeta will have much screentime, they seem to be pushing Piccolo, Pan, Gohan and Goku. I feel he is going to be more like his self from the Yo Son Goku and Friends film.

[omaro34]

I doubt Vegeta will have much screentime, they seem to be pushing Piccolo, Pan, Gohan and Goku. I feel he is going to be more like his self from the Yo Son Goku and Friends film.

They troll us with Piccolo often, they promo'd him in the Broly movie, and it didn't mean anything. I do agree that Pan will play a big role though. Piccolo's role I bet will be just as a master, not a real combatant.

[MCDaveG]

I find it interesting how, after 6 months from its creation, the Broly movie thread already had more than 100 pages of discussion. While this thread after 6 months is still at 80 pages. Is this forum not as hyped for this movie as it was for the Broly movie or what?

Come on, you know the answer

Well we should also consider that Broly came not long after the very succesful anime ended. This movie does not have that kind of momentum to back it up.

Yeah, this forum was pretty alive back in 2005 when the run of DB was still fresh in US plus the games it brought to the international market and then it was in waves... Yo Son Goku and Battle of Gods, The Super anime. Now the series is again on stand-by or in a freezer, with nothing much going on, except for die-hard fans checking the Super manga and whatever one-off release is coming.