just to clarify, i'm not saying mark is not an influencer. what i'm saying was in reference to some people in here mixing up content creators with influencersBWri wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:54 amNot at all. I said that to say, Toei is getting free attention whenever these creators make Dragon Ball or One Piece related content. With the amount of influence these creators have, Toei is easily getting a great one-sided deal. For games like Dokkan and Legends, you can be sure that Youtube influencers help keep those games alive.
Bandai Namco, producers of DB games realized this years ago which is why they reached out to these very influencers.
Right and so Toei should probably do the same ... or just reap the benefits of a mutually beneficial economy based on the rules and regulations of a neutral video hosting platform. They can just sit back and let the passionate fans make their money as they drum up enthusiasm for Toei's products. Basically fans are subsidizing the other fans who advertise Toei's crap to them for free. Just leave it be.Companies DO pay influencers to talk up their products, by the way.
Content creators are influencers, especially when you get to the level of someone like TNM with over 650K followers. Though I do see there's quibbling over the term influencer. Content creators with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and viewers typically have sponsorship deals due to their level of influence. Someone like MaximillianDood can even spark large movements to implement charges in the FGC community or even help resurrect a nearly dead fan favorite game.
for the most part, i agree with what you say. it just baffles me how some people think someone creating DB pixel animation make them an influencer because they have lots of subs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDx1iZzcYFA&t=583s
a content creator after all is such an over broad term that encompasses animation youtubers, modders, critique channels, science/education and etc with influencers who are E-figures/people with a considerable number of following.
you may say i'm being a pedant about it, but i feel it would better to clear out the difference between the two terms. like i said, it wasn't in reference to mark but for the couple of people in here who kept using them interchangebly
you make it seem as if people think selling T shirts with trademarked/copyrighted icons is right in here...MCDaveG wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:09 amI understand it's hard to cope with on the other hand. You as a sole person feel that the rights empower big companies and institutions in their favor and feel threatened and bounded by rules or limited. I definitely understand where this goes from, more so with TNM, because this evil corporation stepped on one of our own and destroyed his work.Majin Buu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:36 am"Anyone who isn't 100% in lock step with the fans on this deserves to be hyperbolically mocked" isn't going to endear people to your side.
People are trying to understand the perspective of the IP holders to understand why this is happening. That doesn't deserve the ridicule you're dishing out.
But these companies are comprised out of people that make their living the same way as everyone else, earning their money by work.
These aforementioned rules exist for a reason.
Akira Toriyama was a guy, who pursued his dream to an extent, he wanted to draw for living. Long story short, he was basically employed by Shueisha with all the corporate practices that are there, but, would his work be as succesful without that company?
And I don't wanna go into a rant how this partnership was mutually benefitial and not only Toriyama made his living, complete with the draconic social income laws that Japan has, as the more money you earn, the more you pay on tax to basically thwart these social scissors of people being obscenely wealthy compared to other countries.
But now he is backed by companies that licensed his work and he gets paid for it and so they also guard his property as well obviously.
And I don't see a reason, why it should be a public property just because these people "are loaded" and have enough in eyes of some fans.
Look at filmmakers, artists and other creators, they always say in interviews how somebody has influenced them to do what they do succesfuly with a road riddled with obstacles, by hard work and ton of luck.
Masashi Kishimoto went and did Naruto, Eichiro Oda did One Piece, Toyotaro was drawing a fan manga based on Dragon Ball, for no money and had to keep a low profile and it had to be the IP owner to get to him and say, come working with us!
I have and never had anything against fans to contribute to their favorite franchises, but they are not obliged or privileged to make money out of properties that are not their own, unless the property owners decides to step in and either asks for contributing directly and get paid for it.
Not only is riding on someone else's success financially an illegal thing to do, but morally, it is a shit thing to do.
And it is also understandable, when you own the property with all it's risks and gains, to step in and say that for example, we do appreciate your support, but we don't like that you are sitting half naked in bath tub or saying things we don't agree with, while using our property in the same video because it doesn't sit well with us. Or, we do not agree of your Son Goku portrayal as a sexy nurse or a fascist dictator and we have very right to do so.
Usually, most of these things fly under the radar, but still, these rules are there for a reason and again, TMM had some cool videos and while I agree it's harsh to kill his years of work, I definitely not agree about him profiting out of those videos, because he never had that right to begin with and that is something I don't understand that some people do not understand.
''But these companies are comprised out of people that make their living the same way as everyone else, earning their money by work.'' EA/blizzard CEO have just wetted their beds reading this. geez, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8-L8LUDPMI just no
your disagreement is an opinion and that's fine. but you shouldn't make it seem as if it's not a right to profit off a transformative work. by that logic, we should adopt japan's copyright system and arrest movie reviewing channels...it's not hard to understand why people would find such a thought not understandable