Selecta Visión Dragon Ball Z Blu-ray

[theoriginalbilis]

I just watched through that comparison video a couple times. And I think it looks okay. Just fine, nothing mind-blowing. (shrug) ... I'd much prefer FUNimation use this footage instead.

To me, the backgrounds still suffer from being slightly flatter, but to no where near the degree that the 30th Anniversary remaster does. I feel the Kai (pre-Buu) remaster still wins out just from the color correction alone.

[Trachta10]

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[eledoremassis02]

A clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVF2GUj3fA0

[Robo4900]

Wow, that is fucking atrocious.

Dragon Boxes as-is remain significantly superior.

[Cure Dragon 255]

For a second I thought you meant the Portugal Portuguese dub lol.

[Robo4900]

For a second I thought you meant the Portugal Portuguese dub lol.

Well, that too.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

For a second I thought you meant the Portugal Portuguese dub lol.

Well, that too.

I have to say though, it's a "so bad it's good" type of thing much like the Big Green dub. XD

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

For a second I thought you meant the Portugal Portuguese dub lol.

Well, that too.

I have to say though, it's a "so bad it's good" type of thing much like the Big Green dub. XD

They are different flavours of bad. One is bizarre ("Miss Portugal 97") and the other is awkward ("Let that child alone").

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Well, that too.

I have to say though, it's a "so bad it's good" type of thing much like the Big Green dub. XD

They are different flavours of bad. One is bizarre ("Miss Portugal 97") and the other is awkward ("Let that child alone").

True, though of course the Portuguese dub was intentionally written as a parody/gag type dub while Big Green is just a mess of rushed direction and poor scripting and poor acting,

[Scsigs]

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Ew.

[Masquerade]

Saw some clips.

At least it's an improvement over Funimation's 30th sets.

[sangofe]

Saw some clips.

At least it's an improvement over Funimation's 30th sets.

How is it an improvement?

[Banduck]

How is it an improvement?

https://imgsli.com/NzMxNTU/2/1
It's clearly an improvement.

[Robo4900]

I don't think "Is it better than one of the absolute worst releases there is?" is a productive lens through which to discuss this set.

The point is it's shit. It's in the same category as all the other bad DBZ releases and it's not worth anyone's time to figure out whether any of the other really bad ones that aren't worth buying are any better or worse than this other one that's really bad and not worth buying.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

All they did here was just take the standard def Dragon Box Z footage, upscale and run a filter over it. Granted it’s not as hideously smeared and watercolor-y as FUNi’s 30th BD’s but at the same time it’s not what you’d call great either.

[BlueChi]

Sorry for the source being from my mobile, but I've no way to screencap yet. As it stands, while I'd love for the grain to be there, this isn't the abortion some people here desperately want to make it out to be. It's a competently done upscale of DB Box footage with some possible color correction? The skies aren't looking green to me, but if I'm mistaken do correct me, it's been a while. It seems like it's the best home release as of yet and now the ball is on Toei to provide us with an actual remaster from the source video itself.
If you can understand spanish subtitles, this definitely is a good option and it beats what Funi's putting out with both hands tied, so by all means go get it, it looks pretty great in motion, which isn't something most home releases can say.

[Robo4900]

It amazes me how consistently people will leap to the defence of some shitty box set that's notably inferior to the Dragon Boxes; first the 30th anniversary sets, then the SelectaVision DB set, now this SV DBZ set. Feels just like the people who leap to the defence of the Orange Bricks in every other online community. The sentiment is always the same; "It's not as bad as people say! I like it just fine and everyone complaining is just wrong."

Look, I get it, you don't hate it, that doesn't mean people are wrong to complain, you just disagree with the consensus because the things people complain about don't bother you personally. I'm glad you can enjoy this version of the show but no one is "desperately making it out to be" anything, we're giving an honest opinion just like you did, and warning away anyone who thought this might be something legitimately good.

The fact is, it's not a very good upscale, and really, just watching the Dragon Boxes and Funimation's original DVD singles looks better. This is the same kind of smeary bullshit as we have on the 30th set only it's not from a genuine HD source, and it's not quite as heavily filtered.
If that doesn't bother you, that's fine, but this isn't about people "making it out to be" something it's not, this is about people seeing something you don't.

[BlueChi]

It amazes me how consistently people will leap to the defence of some shitty box set that's notably inferior to the Dragon Boxes; first the 30th anniversary sets, then the SelectaVision DB set, now this SV DBZ set. Feels just like the people who leap to the defence of the Orange Bricks in every other online community. The sentiment is always the same; "It's not as bad as people say! I like it just fine and everyone complaining is just wrong."

Look, I get it, you don't hate it, that doesn't mean people are wrong to complain, you just disagree with the consensus because the things people complain about don't bother you personally. I'm glad you can enjoy this version of the show but no one is "desperately making it out to be" anything, we're giving an honest opinion just like you did, and warning away anyone who thought this might be something legitimately good.

The fact is, it's not a very good upscale, and really, just watching the Dragon Boxes and Funimation's original DVD singles looks better. This is the same kind of smeary bullshit as we have on the 30th set only it's not from a genuine HD source, and it's not quite as heavily filtered.
If that doesn't bother you, that's fine, but this isn't about people "making it out to be" something it's not, this is about people seeing something you don't.

Trying to equate these sets to the Funi 30th or the orange bricks is absolute gaslighting. Sorry, but this time the delusional camp is on the other court, you can clearly see defined lines for one, something that's lacking on even Funi's latest try. If you'd like to wait for a better remaster, preferably done by Toei themselves using the source footage, that's grand and I'm with you there when/if it comes out. Just don't try and talk shit about a release you're not buying and don't know much about, potentially alienating people who'll just take your word for it. The ideal utopian DBZ Home Release has yet to arrive, but there's no need to sabotage an otherwise competent release done by a much smaller company.
Oh and it looks much better than even SV's DB outing. I know this, because I own them, it doesn't look smeared.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

If you'd like to wait for a better remaster, preferably done by Toei themselves using the source footage, that's grand and I'm with you there when/if it comes out. Just don't try and talk shit about a release you're not buying and don't know much about, potentially alienating people who'll just take your word for it. The ideal utopian DBZ Home Release has yet to arrive, but there's no need to sabotage an otherwise competent release done by a much smaller company.
Oh and it looks much better than even SV's DB outing. I know this, because I own them, it doesn't look smeared.

I don't have any faith in TOEI after them missing the golden opportunity that was the 30th anniversary. Even if they had of taken that opportunity, let's not kid ourselves that TOEI would have been any kind of superhero given their history.

At one point TOEI did decide to try their hand at doing a HD remaster of their series, starting with Galaxy Express 999. Not only did TOEI have no interest in using this series to show what a 16mm TV anime shot on film could look like if done right, they used Galaxy Express 999 as a test to see if the average Japanese consumer could tell the difference between a full HD remaster and an SD upscale.

As if it would be any surprise to us Dragon Ball fans, what did TOEI do with Galaxy Express 999? They took a pretty solid DVD master, outsourced to Q-Tec for the upscaling and filtering work. The result? Fans loved it, there was no significant backlash, and ever since there hasn't been a single TOEI show that wasn't a filtered SD upscale.

Why should we count on TOEI to treat Dragon Ball any better and give it this utopian home release? All this series ever was for them is a vehicle for selling toys and merch, not the great show it is that's worth preserving for the ages. They trashed the original audio masters because the hard work the Japanese cast put in and Kikuchi's incredible score because both had served their purpose and in TOEI's eyes were no longer relevant.

We the fans care about these things, but TOEI have given us no reason to suspect they do.

[MasenkoHA]

It amazes me how consistently people will leap to the defence of some shitty box set that's notably inferior to the Dragon Boxes; first the 30th anniversary sets, then the SelectaVision DB set, now this SV DBZ set. Feels just like the people who leap to the defence of the Orange Bricks in every other online community. The sentiment is always the same; "It's not as bad as people say! I like it just fine and everyone complaining is just wrong."

Look, I get it, you don't hate it, that doesn't mean people are wrong to complain, you just disagree with the consensus because the things people complain about don't bother you personally. I'm glad you can enjoy this version of the show but no one is "desperately making it out to be" anything, we're giving an honest opinion just like you did, and warning away anyone who thought this might be something legitimately good.

The fact is, it's not a very good upscale, and really, just watching the Dragon Boxes and Funimation's original DVD singles looks better. This is the same kind of smeary bullshit as we have on the 30th set only it's not from a genuine HD source, and it's not quite as heavily filtered.
If that doesn't bother you, that's fine, but this isn't about people "making it out to be" something it's not, this is about people seeing something you don't.

Trying to equate these sets to the Funi 30th or the orange bricks is absolute gaslighting.

Regardless if you agree with Robo or not, calling it gaslighting is kind of abusing the term there.