Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by Grimlock » Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:46 am

Raditz wrote:Bhuahahaha. Happy to see me again, Kakaroto? I'll have my revenge!
Goku wrote:In fact, I am! I just told some random dude that you tried to kill me a while back. Not only that, I finally remembered our parents! And you were wrong, I wasn't sent here to kill everyone in this planet. Bardock saved me!
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:15 pm

I hope this Raditz reveal is real! I would love to see what kind of dialogue there is between the characters.
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Post by Mr Baggins » Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:42 pm

I'm surprised to see so many people here taking a blurry screenshot "leak" seriously enough to discuss it for two forum pages, especially one posted so long before the theatrical release.

Anyway, it's fake. For the Carmine image, they used this exact piece of official art and then slightly tweaked the face.
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Post by Grimlock » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:53 pm

Can't speak for everyone, but I think it's not just the image anymore. The idea of bringing Raditz back is good enough, and with people wanting him back, anything, true or false, will most likely generate a discussion.

The context is valid too, we actually don't see what happened to Raditz' body after Piccolo kills him. We are just led to assume it stayed right over there lying on the ground. So if they want to use Raditz for something, they can.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by Asin » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:21 pm

So, Raditz for Super Hero, huh? Most likely a fake, as people have pointed out, but I will say that'd be one hell of a way to get a discussion going, huh?

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Post by capsulecorp » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:19 pm

Zelvin wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:32 pm Before you add or remove anything, you always need to ask whether or not it fits into the story, whether it breaks an of the worlds internal logic and whether it'll have an impact on events that've previously occurred or will occur very soon. When you do none of these things it only shows that you don't care about any of these things.
But.... no, wait..... given that we know so little of the movie's story so far, you have to admit that it's hard to know how successful this idea could possibly be. And while I personally am tired of exploring Goku's saiyan past, it's just flat out wrong to imply that doing so "breaks the worlds internal logic".

Unless you mean the very concept of reviving Raditz breaks the "internal logic" of the Dragon World? That can't be what you mean though, this is a world where even Freeza has returned to life.

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Post by Koitsukai » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:56 pm

While it probably is fake, what's makes it less real to me is that they are not taking into account what happens in the manga, with Bardock and all that.

So, having Raditz and at the same time pretending Goku never had his Bardock moment seems... odd, to say the least.

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Post by ChronoTwigger » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:27 pm

Grimlock wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:53 pm The context is valid too, we actually don't see what happened to Raditz' body after Piccolo kills him. We are just led to assume it stayed right over there lying on the ground. So if they want to use Raditz for something, they can.
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Post by Pkjoan » Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:13 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:56 pm While it probably is fake, what's makes it less real to me is that they are not taking into account what happens in the manga, with Bardock and all that.

So, having Raditz and at the same time pretending Goku never had his Bardock moment seems... odd, to say the least.

The movie is not referencing the manga whatsoever.

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:33 pm

You never know, these are the same movies that keep mentioning "Vegeta's brother" again and again...



... Who the hell is Vegeta's brother!?
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Grimlock wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:33 pm You never know, these are the same movies that keep mentioning "Vegeta's brother" again and again...



... Who the hell is Vegeta's brother!?
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Post by capsulecorp » Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:27 pm

Pkjoan wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:13 pm
Koitsukai wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:56 pm While it probably is fake, what's makes it less real to me is that they are not taking into account what happens in the manga, with Bardock and all that.

So, having Raditz and at the same time pretending Goku never had his Bardock moment seems... odd, to say the least.
The movie is not referencing the manga whatsoever.
Did you see the movie already

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Post by capsulecorp » Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:51 pm

Grimlock wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:33 pm You never know, these are the same movies that keep mentioning "Vegeta's brother" again and again...



... Who the hell is Vegeta's brother!?
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Post by TheMikado » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 am

capsulecorp wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 8:51 pm
Grimlock wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:33 pm You never know, these are the same movies that keep mentioning "Vegeta's brother" again and again...



... Who the hell is Vegeta's brother!?
His name is Tarble and he has a beautiful wife and he loves her and we treat him with respect.
Omg I forgot all about this. Probably the PTSD

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by Gt91 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:47 am

The image is probably fake but even Raditz could be a good antagonist for this movie.
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Post by capsulecorp » Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:55 am

TheMikado wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 am Omg I forgot all about this. Probably the PTSD
To save Julie the trouble, "lets not joke about PTSD, its a serious condition that affects a lot of people".

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:55 pm

capsulecorp wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:55 am
TheMikado wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 am Omg I forgot all about this. Probably the PTSD
To save Julie the trouble, "lets not joke about PTSD, its a serious condition that affects a lot of people".
I didn't comment on that post specifically because I think that TheMikado is referring to their own PTSD. I won't tell someone how to deal with their personal PTSD because people have different ways dealing with that sort of thing.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

Post by capsulecorp » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:22 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:55 pm
capsulecorp wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:55 am
TheMikado wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:30 am Omg I forgot all about this. Probably the PTSD
To save Julie the trouble, "lets not joke about PTSD, its a serious condition that affects a lot of people".
I didn't comment on that post specifically because I think that TheMikado is referring to their own PTSD. I won't tell someone how to deal with their personal PTSD because people have different ways dealing with that sort of thing.
Oh, no, that was just a joke. They were implying they got PTSD from watching the Tarble special.

I can imagine not enjoying that special if you don't appreciate the fun, light hearted side of DBZ but suggesting that it could actually cause PTSD is a dramatic minimization of how serious PTSD can be.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:25 pm

capsulecorp wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:22 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:55 pm
capsulecorp wrote: Tue Apr 05, 2022 10:55 am

To save Julie the trouble, "lets not joke about PTSD, its a serious condition that affects a lot of people".
I didn't comment on that post specifically because I think that TheMikado is referring to their own PTSD. I won't tell someone how to deal with their personal PTSD because people have different ways dealing with that sort of thing.
Oh, no, that was just a joke. They were implying they got PTSD from watching the Tarble special.

I can imagine not enjoying that special if you don't appreciate the fun, light hearted side of DBZ but suggesting that it could actually cause PTSD is a dramatic minimization of how serious PTSD can be.
I didn't catch that. My first thought was "Yeah, my PTSD fucked up my memory, too, I can't even remember, like, 99% of my life let alone stuff I've seen!"
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

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