Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
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Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
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Helped how? They're in the afterlife. The only time we ever really saw someone help in any meaningful way from the afterlife is Goku helping Gohan with his Kamehameha against Cell and that could be interpreted as Gohan imagining his father is with him to make him stronger.
Was Goku in Future Trunks timeline supposed to pull a Mufasa and give Gohan advice from the clouds?
Was Goku in Future Trunks timeline supposed to pull a Mufasa and give Gohan advice from the clouds?
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Re: Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
Well, I suppose Uranai Baba could’ve brought Goku back for a day to help fight against the artificial humans.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:55 pm Helped how? They're in the afterlife. The only time we ever really saw someone help in any meaningful way from the afterlife is Goku helping Gohan with his Kamehameha against Cell and that could be interpreted as Gohan imagining his father is with him to make him stronger.
Was Goku in Future Trunks timeline supposed to pull a Mufasa and give Gohan advice from the clouds?
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I don't think there's really an explanation. King Yemma let Vegeta return since Buu was a universal threat. If King Yemma doesn't approve of them helping since they're only a threat to Earth, Goku could've asked to visit his family like Grandpa Gohan did. Another option is communicating through King Kai and recommending they train in the RoSaT. I don't think they could master SSJ without Goku's help but probably reach ASSJ on their own. I could be forgetting and maybe the Lookout was destroyed by the cyborgs though.
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Bulma should just have called her sister to fly them off to New Namek.
Of course we know she didn't exist back then, but now there's so many new ways that Trunks' future could have dealt with the Androids and revive the fallen Z-Fighters.
Of course we know she didn't exist back then, but now there's so many new ways that Trunks' future could have dealt with the Androids and revive the fallen Z-Fighters.
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Nope, it's never explained why nobody from the afterlife was given a 1-day-body to get back into the fight. Spitballing explanations though, maybe they figured they wouldn't do any better a second time around? Or, maybe they did, and got killed a second time, thus deleting their souls permanently?
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I think it was because for some reason the Androids kept attacking Earth and not going outside or attempting to awaken Buu. As soon as Babidi came to awaken him Trunks prevented thanks to the help he got from... KAIOSHIN!?
WOW. I am shocked.
WOW. I am shocked.
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Re: Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
My reasons why:
1. They most likely didn't go North Kai's place after death. They went to Heaven and probably stay there in the meantime. Meanwhile, Vegeta went to hell and didn't keep his body.
2. They didn't want too. They accepted that they lost the battle and there's not much that they can do. Sometimes death is death. Goku also knows that Gohan and Trunks are alive. He believes that those two would likely help.
1. They most likely didn't go North Kai's place after death. They went to Heaven and probably stay there in the meantime. Meanwhile, Vegeta went to hell and didn't keep his body.
2. They didn't want too. They accepted that they lost the battle and there's not much that they can do. Sometimes death is death. Goku also knows that Gohan and Trunks are alive. He believes that those two would likely help.
She probably didn't know how too. Even if they did, they would have no idea how to get there. Even Goku had to use North Kai's help to find New Namek to get Dende.Bulma should just have called her sister to fly them off to New Namek.
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Re: Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
It doesn't really make any sense when you consider the back for a day thing.
I always found it strange how the Androids' reign of terror lasted for 17 years. Like after all that time there's still cities standing and people alive. Meanwhile Buu wipes out most of the population in a couple of days.
At no point in those 17 years did Goku or the others come back for a day to intervene. I'm sure it would've been allowed as he was allowed back for a Tournament in the main timeline.
I always found it strange how the Androids' reign of terror lasted for 17 years. Like after all that time there's still cities standing and people alive. Meanwhile Buu wipes out most of the population in a couple of days.
At no point in those 17 years did Goku or the others come back for a day to intervene. I'm sure it would've been allowed as he was allowed back for a Tournament in the main timeline.
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I think it was just that revival was possible only for a year (Which means its permanent as soon as the year is over) and reviving anyone let alone bringing him to life for a day would only be possible if the was killed by someone and not a disease.
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If they wanted to come back, they would have done it. The best answer is that they accepted their faith and realize that there's not much they can do now.
Buu was a threat to the entire universe and was known to wipe out several hundred planets in a few years. #17 and #18 are just a threat to the Earth and that's it. The kais are not going to give a shit about them.I always found it strange how the Androids' reign of terror lasted for 17 years. Like after all that time there's still cities standing and people alive. Meanwhile Buu wipes out most of the population in a couple of days.
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And then Goku and the others found Jesus lol.Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:13 pm If they wanted to come back, they would have done it. The best answer is that they accepted their faith and realize that there's not much they can do now.
Buu was a threat to the entire universe and was known to wipe out several hundred planets in a few years. #17 and #18 are just a threat to the Earth and that's it. The kais are not going to give a shit about them.I always found it strange how the Androids' reign of terror lasted for 17 years. Like after all that time there's still cities standing and people alive. Meanwhile Buu wipes out most of the population in a couple of days.
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I‘m pretty sure that only applies to mass resurrections, or to people who already got reincarnated. Sorbet and the others were able to bring back Freeza even though he had been dead for much longer than a year.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:31 pm I think it was just that revival was possible only for a year (Which means its permanent as soon as the year is over) and reviving anyone let alone bringing him to life for a day would only be possible if the was killed by someone and not a disease.
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Re: Was it ever explained away why no one in trunks time in the afterlife help out at all?
How do you know was it stated? And if so, god did the quality of Dragon Ball go DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWNHILL.
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Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:34 pm How do you know was it stated? And if so, god did the quality of Dragon Ball go DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWNHILL.
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I want to protest but this actually makes a lot of sense, because otherwise you'd have like a WHOLE CENTURY OF PEOPLE being revived. It makes a lot of sense to restrain that to the one year rule. Good find.
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That wasn't my point.Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:13 pmBuu was a threat to the entire universe and was known to wipe out several hundred planets in a few years. #17 and #18 are just a threat to the Earth and that's it. The kais are not going to give a shit about them.I always found it strange how the Androids' reign of terror lasted for 17 years. Like after all that time there's still cities standing and people alive. Meanwhile Buu wipes out most of the population in a couple of days.
It doesn't matter if the Kais care or not. Goku was allowed to return for the 25th Tournament simply because he wanted to, and Grandpa Gohan was allowed to return to just as a favour to Baba.
Future Goku logically should've seen the Androids from the afterlife, so it's weird that he never asked to go back for a day to fight them. Like he's allowed to go back for a tournament but not to save a planet? I don't buy it.
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Future goku was bodyless in heaven. And kaio is on his planet. It's specifically said that he got his body for saving earth from cell. Otherwise you need Kamis intervention. And goku died long before him.90sDBZ wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:33 amThat wasn't my point.Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:13 pmBuu was a threat to the entire universe and was known to wipe out several hundred planets in a few years. #17 and #18 are just a threat to the Earth and that's it. The kais are not going to give a shit about them.I always found it strange how the Androids' reign of terror lasted for 17 years. Like after all that time there's still cities standing and people alive. Meanwhile Buu wipes out most of the population in a couple of days.
It doesn't matter if the Kais care or not. Goku was allowed to return for the 25th Tournament simply because he wanted to, and Grandpa Gohan was allowed to return to just as a favour to Baba.
Future Goku logically should've seen the Androids from the afterlife, so it's weird that he never asked to go back for a day to fight them. Like he's allowed to go back for a tournament but not to save a planet? I don't buy it.
Most likely Babas place was destroyed and Baba was killed. If not straight away perhaps by the time they trained enough to make it happen.
North Kaio would probably not authorize the Nameks balls to get involved as the androids were a terrestrial threat only. And nameks not even his jurisdiction and not under threat as well.
Vegeta is in hell bodyless.
Piccolo might not be willing to fuse with kami so if there's no pending resurrection he's in hell too. And it'd take too many years for kamiless piccolo alone to get android level by training alone or with the humans.
There's lots of possible reasons.
Trunks has no fast ship or coordinates for Namek
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Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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I dunno I feel like the 24 hour thing assumes
1. Baba is still alive in Future Trunk's timeline
Or
2.Baba can still do the thing if she's dead
And I just feel like neither are true
1. Baba is still alive in Future Trunk's timeline
Or
2.Baba can still do the thing if she's dead
And I just feel like neither are true
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I quite doubt Goku even kept his body considering he would have died for natural reasons. I think it's the circumstances surrounding his deaths - being sacrifices and all - that let him keep his body in the main timeline.