Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread

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Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:09 am

Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94

目覚めよ!孫悟飯
Mezameyo! Son Gohan
Awaken! Son Gohan (or "Awaken, Son Gohan!")


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Release Information:

JAPAN:
Date: June 21, 2023
Publication: V-Jump, August 2023 Issue
Cost: ¥620

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(V-Jump is forward-dated two months from its actual release window. Issues are generally released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or a holiday, in which case the issue gets moved up a day appropriately.)

INTERNATIONAL:
Date: June 20, 2023 (timed to the JP midnight-on-June-21st release)
Publication: Digital (Viz/Shonen Jump + Manga Plus)
Cost: Free

FIRST OFFICIAL TEASE:
The "Weekly Dragon Ball News" segment posted on the Dragon Ball Official Website on 12 June 2023 featured Victory Uchida (Shueisha employee/mascot, and editor for the Dragon Ball Super manga working alongside Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama) displaying a tease for the upcoming drafts on screen, which will (tentatively) be shared on June 14.

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STORYBOARDS/DRAFTS:
The first several pages of any given chapter's roughs/storyboards/drafts have been posted on the official Dragon Ball website for quite some time now (in all likelihood done in an attempt to combat piracy and control the narrative by releasing teases of specific information and context at their own discretion). The drafts for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 94 were posted on June 14 (Japan time). As these specific articles are generally removed from the website upon the chapter's formal release, archived versions of these links (such as this) are generally shared by fandom.

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THREAD/DISCUSSION INFORMATION

This is the "official" discussion thread for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 94. All content regarding this specific chapter would be great to include here in this thread, rather than the dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread. Posts that are specific to the individual chapter in the gigantic thread with no relevance to the larger series will be reported and/or removed.

Q: When will this thread open?

A: This thread will be opened by a Kanzenshuu moderator when the first official promotion of the respective chapter occurs. This may be when its storyboards are shared, or in some kind of formal news article leading up to that point. Please do not create a separate thread of your own to discuss this chapter.

Q: What is the history behind a [blank]-specific discussion thread?

A: We established episode-specific discussion threads beginning with Dragon Ball Kai in 2011, followed by the Dragon Ball Super television series in 2015. These episode-specific threads allowed people to discuss just that: those specific episodes, without being interrupted by other discussions regarding general production, promotion, etc. We didn't create corresponding Dragon Ball Super manga chapter threads at its debut due to the nature of its production: it was initially billed as a "comicalization" of the television series, and the first arc barely stood on its own as a unique production, rather than supplemental/incidental/disposable. We had kept the larger thread out of inertia from those earlier chapters, and have wavered for literal years over whether or not to separate them out.

Q: We've had worthwhile individual chapters since chapter five. This is absurd. Why are you just starting individual discussion threads so many years into the manga, when the TV series had it from the start?

A: All of that is correct. Maybe we will go back and pull out threads for past chapters. Maybe we won't. We should have done this a long time ago. Better late than never. This is the plan for now on and is not currently up for discussion or reconsideration. Thank you.

Q: OK, but... so what's the point?

A: At Kanzenshuu we believe in history and preservation. It is worthwhile to future versions of ourselves and entirely new future fans to be able to dig back and find real-time reactions to specific productions (such as a specific episode or chapter). It's much easier to do this when the discussions are separated into these unique threads.

Q: When will new threads be created?

A: Threads for new/upcoming manga chapters will be created by a Kanzenshuu administrator at an appropriate point in time following the release of a previous chapter, and ahead of that next chapter's release schedule (which itself includes the official drafts/storyboards).

Q: OK, so what do you expect us to actually discuss in a chapter thread, particularly ahead of its release?

A: For some time now, Shueisha (in all likelihood to combat "leaks" and illegal piracy) has released "draft" pages of upcoming chapters in the two weeks leading up to any given chapter's release. These are official pieces of information dissemination and absolutely up for discussion. We welcome questions about where and how to legally and officially consume the manga. We do not condone nor allow the discussion or encouragement of piracy. Following a chapter's release, of course anything relating to that chapter and its contents are up for discussion in a specific thread.

Q: What kinds of "sources" can we discuss?

A: You can discuss whatever you want, so long as it lives up to the community guidelines. It is recommended that you link to / discuss actual sources of information, rather than second-hand accounts. Twitter and its users are not "sources" of information. Shueisha has its own official Dragon Ball website and weekly news broadcast on YouTube, which will in all likelihood be your actual primary sources of information leading up to a chapter's release.

Q: What if I have something to say about another chapter that's not this chapter?

A: Is what you have to say/ask/post even tangentially related to this chapter? That's fine. Does it have absolutely nothing to do with this chapter? Post it elsewhere. These chapter-specific threads do not automatically close after a new chapter comes out; you are free to keep discussing a specific chapter for as long as you all feel like talking about it.

Q: So what do we do with the big/main thread?

A: The dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread is still perfect for overall/holistic discussion regarding the manga, its production, its promotion, its content relation to other parts of the franchise, etc.

Q: I want to learn more about what's going on with this manga's production!

A: Check out Episode #0489 of our podcast for an extreme deep-dive (with all the receipts you can eat!) into the production of the manga, including all of the ways that Toyotaro, Akira Toriyama, and Victory Uchida each individually contribute to it.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Miracles » Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:45 pm

We end with Piccolo going Orange this chapter or with Cell Max being awakened.

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Post by Alkiser » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:04 pm

Miracles wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:45 pm We end with Piccolo going Orange this chapter or with Cell Max being awakened.
Looking at the fact that the chapter will start with Pan's kidnapping, Toyotaro would really have to chop the threads from the film and shorten Gohan's fight to end up with an awakened Cell or Orange Piccolo. In my opinion, the chapter will end with Piccolo using a form of awakened potential.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Cipher » Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:40 am

There's plenty of setup left to get through. Seems more likely to me this month will end in the middle of Gohan vs. Gamma 1, which could give us up to another four or five months of the arc. (Longer than I originally predicted, but that seems like the most reasonable prediction based on where we are now, giving space to the action scenes and looking for appropriate ending beats/cliffhangers. Cell Max is probably going to stick around for a few chapters in order to feel like a proper climax as well.)

I think this'll all read pretty well when it's finished, and on subsequent passes through Super. It's just rough in real time when it's pushing back new storylines we're all understandably anxious to see.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:37 am

Cipher wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:40 am I think this'll all read pretty well when it's finished, and on subsequent passes through Super. It's just rough in real time when it's pushing back new storylines we're all understandably anxious to see.
Agreed. It's a necessary step if they want to make everything more unified.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 94 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by OLKv3 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:46 pm

Miracles wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:45 pm We end with Piccolo going Orange this chapter or with Cell Max being awakened.
Definitely gonna be Orange, unless Toyo surprises us with breakneck pacing

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Post by Kazuya Mishima » Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:48 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:37 am
Cipher wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:40 am I think this'll all read pretty well when it's finished, and on subsequent passes through Super. It's just rough in real time when it's pushing back new storylines we're all understandably anxious to see.
Agreed. It's a necessary step if they want to make everything more unified.
This is why if the anime returns it needs to adapt the Broly arc whether it will be worse or not.

The anime is the only one that can tell the complete uninterrupted story from Beerus to Cell Max.

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Post by BWri » Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:56 pm

Kazuya Mishima wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:48 pm
GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:37 am
Cipher wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:40 am I think this'll all read pretty well when it's finished, and on subsequent passes through Super. It's just rough in real time when it's pushing back new storylines we're all understandably anxious to see.
Agreed. It's a necessary step if they want to make everything more unified.
This is why if the anime returns it needs to adapt the Broly arc whether it will be worse or not.

The anime is the only one that can tell the complete uninterrupted story from Beerus to Cell Max.
Thus is the fate of a promo manga with nothing to currently promote. Now its the main course, but unfortunately its incomplete as a standalone work.
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Post by Kazuya Mishima » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:37 pm

Yep if you're a casual fan who has finished Dragon Ball Z and want more then you can't just read the manga because it skipped the movies but then you can't just go by the movies because it skipped but did reference events from the manga.

The anime though has the chance to tell the entire uninterrupted story.

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Post by Gt91 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:10 am

OLKv3 wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:46 pm
Miracles wrote: Tue Jun 13, 2023 3:45 pm We end with Piccolo going Orange this chapter or with Cell Max being awakened.
Definitely gonna be Orange, unless Toyo surprises us with breakneck pacing
Unfortunately
At least these are the first spoilers.

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Post by Aizamasu » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:12 pm

As someone who hasn’t seen the Super hero movie, I really enjoyed this chapter.

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Post by TobyS » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:16 pm

Good chapter, it's not Toyos fault he has to recap the movie, it'll read better on re-reads and we have Super Dragonball Heroes to keep us going in the mean time.
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Post by Bardock God of Time » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:35 pm

TobyS wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:16 pm Good chapter, it's not Toyos fault he has to recap the movie, it'll read better on re-reads and we have Super Dragonball Heroes to keep us going in the mean time.
If it leads to the next arc getting more time in the oven, I'm fine with it

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:51 pm

The fighting wasn't boring this chapter, although I still dislike the Ultimate form. I wish Gohan had simply transformed into Super Saiyan 2 or perhaps dealt a damaging blow using something he recalled from his training with Gokuu in the Room of Spirit and Time during the Artificial Humans arc.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:54 pm

I liked this one. Something that Toyotaro is better than Toriyama is remembering past characters. The officer that appears in the beginning is the same that helped kid Goku find Bulma when he went to visit her the first time

I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
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Post by Miracles » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:58 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:54 pm I liked this one. Something that Toyotaro is better than Toriyama is remembering past characters. The officer that appears in the beginning is the same that helped kid Goku find Bulma when he went to visit her the first time

I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
Good catch.

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Post by Omori » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:40 am

FortuneSSJ wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:54 pm I liked this one. Something that Toyotaro is better than Toriyama is remembering past characters. The officer that appears in the beginning is the same that helped kid Goku find Bulma when he went to visit her the first time
It's 30 years difference, but still not impossible that it's the same. Like even Dr. Brief still hasn't changed a bit :lol:
Really nice reference there, that's what I like to see from Toyotaro.
I also like how well Toyotaro is connecting the prequel to the movie. Hedo recognized SSJ from when Goten/Trunks used it and there's an outdoor advertising Clean God 2.
Agree, it will be a pretty good read if you see it as a whole.
Looking forward to Trunks and Gotens appearance in a few chapters :)

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Post by TKA » Sat Jul 01, 2023 3:42 pm

I was interested in seeing if he would substantially change this part of the story, considering the difference between the manga's version of Gohan and the anime's. Toyotaro's Gohan has never stopped training, fought evenly with Kefla, and fought 73.

Yet in the brief time since then, he's suddenly lost all that.

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